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Old Posted Jul 26, 2010, 6:39 PM
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Photos please!
a few from sunday - i didn't take pics of people as i don't usually but the dog park area was full of people, anmd the playground was packed with kids and people were using all areas

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Old Posted Jul 26, 2010, 7:20 PM
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"Boston and Vancouver are remarkably similar"

great city is its...but how do you reckon they are similar in feel?
It's hard to explain. Maybe it's just that they have a ton of young Japanese people, too.

Japanese people all universally love Boston.
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2010, 8:06 PM
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they also both fan out don't they? ie boston city centre is on the water so it spreads out north south and west - vancouver city centre spreads out north south and east
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they also both fan out don't they? ie boston city centre is on the water so it spreads out north south and west - vancouver city centre spreads out north south and east
Boston has Harvard and MIT, we have Simon Fraser and UBC....
     
     
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Developer experiments with affordable condos near downtown Vancouver


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...-near-downtown-vancouver/article1651548/

No parking. No fancy finishes. No costly marketing program. No speculators. No one who isn’t willing to do some building maintenance.

That’s the condo experiment that one Vancouver developer is trying in an effort to build housing in the city priced low enough that a couple working minimum-wage jobs could afford it.

“Our objective was to continue the legacy we started at Woodward’s and, at the same time, we didn’t want to just bring a bunch of BMWs into the neighbourhood,” said developer Ian Gillespie. He submitted his application last week for the unusual project at 60 West Cordova.

It sits on the border of Gastown and the Downtown Eastside, on the neighbouring block to his Woodward’s project that combined condos, social housing, a university fine-arts centre and offices in the formerly derelict department store.

Not providing parking has two benefits. It lowers the cost of the units, since a single parking stall typically costs $30,000 to $40,000 to build downtown; that saving will be passed on to the buyer. As well, Mr. Gillespie believes the lack of parking will act as an automatic filter to keep out better-off households.

The 108-unit project is a collaboration involving Vancity credit union, Habitat for Humanity and a Downtown Eastside housing group. Habitat will get four condos suitable for families in the building and will choose who gets them. Another eight units, to be managed by the PHS housing society, will go to local community workers.

The remaining 96 condos will go to buyers who will have to prove that they plan to live in the units and who agree to do some maintenance themselves instead of just paying standard condo-maintenance fees. According to the material submitted to the city, nearly three-quarters of the condos will sell for less than $300,000, and more than half will be affordable to people making between $29,000 and $36,000 a year. That’s the income of an individual earning $15-$19 an hour, or a couple in which each partner makes the $8-an-hour minimum wage.

Architect Gregory Henriquez said the idea of requiring owners to also occupy the condos as a way to keep prices down is something he adopted from his early days of living in the West End. Then, before the legislation that created individual condo ownership was brought in, the only way for someone to own an apartment was to own the whole building co-operatively with a group.

“Those condos continue to trade at the low end of market because of how they regulate who is allowed to live in them,” Mr. Henriquez said.

Besides building Woodward’s, Mr. Gillespie has erected two of the city’s swankest hotel/condo complexes in recent years, the Shangri-La and the Fairmont Pacific Rim. He is also the developer of a controversial rental-housing project in the West End, one of eight projects he’s working on in the city.

The vice-president of community real estate for Citizens Bank of Canada, a Vancity affiliate, said the project is the first of its kind for Vancity, as part of the credit union’s new initiative to find ways to build affordable housing in Vancouver. “We definitely have a new mandate to work on this,” Stuart Leslie said.

The land, previously owned by developer Robert Wilson, was repossessed by Vancity last year. He had purchased it for $7.9-million in July, 2007, shortly before the city’s real-estate market deflated. It’s now assessed at $5.4-million.

The Downtown Eastside’s most vocal advocacy group says it is opposed to the project because, even though its ownership is geared to low-income households, it will still bring gentrification and increased property prices to the neighbourhood.

“This was a prime lot that could have been used for 100-per-cent social housing,” said Wendy Pedersen of the Carnegie Community Action Project.

But Habitat for Humanity Greater Vancouver CEO Anneke Rees said her group is excited because the project gives it a chance to provide housing not just to the most desperately poor but to low-income households trying to get a foothold in Vancouver’s pricey housing market.

Frances Bula
Vancouver — From Monday's Globe and Mail
Published on Sunday, Jul. 25, 2010 11:53PM EDT
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2010, 11:24 PM
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wow, great! that would be here. a nice big lot, and a key hole down there. gillespie, is there anything he can't do?
     
     
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I thought about posting this in the rumour section but it's not a rumour so this is probably the best place for it.
They were drilling test holes at the university club all day today. We should expect to hear something official shortly.
     
     
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I thought about posting this in the rumour section but it's not a rumour so this is probably the best place for it.
They were drilling test holes at the university club all day today. We should expect to hear something official shortly.
as in the golf club at UBC? or the club thing next to the Marine Building downtown?
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 3:23 AM
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Next to the Marine building.
     
     
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I thought about posting this in the rumour section but it's not a rumour so this is probably the best place for it.
They were drilling test holes at the university club all day today. We should expect to hear something official shortly.
Cool news!
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 4:09 AM
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It's hard to explain. Maybe it's just that they have a ton of young Japanese people, too.

Japanese people all universally love Boston.
Love both cities, but I really dont see it... and sushi was hard to find downtown boston, Harvard not so much... i think I still have a headache from the sake bomb joint.
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What does this hole-drilling mean?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 4:27 AM
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They drill holes into the ground and assess the samples removed, it'll let them know if the ground is contaminated, what it's made up, how much weight it could support etc.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 4:49 AM
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There must be a lot of solid rock. You can see it from the Skytrain when it goes past the Marine building under Cordova.
     
     
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Developer experiments with affordable condos near downtown Vancouver


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...-near-downtown-vancouver/article1651548/

No parking. No fancy finishes. No costly marketing program. No speculators. No one who isn’t willing to do some building maintenance.

That’s the condo experiment that one Vancouver developer is trying in an effort to build housing in the city priced low enough that a couple working minimum-wage jobs could afford it.

“Our objective was to continue the legacy we started at Woodward’s and, at the same time, we didn’t want to just bring a bunch of BMWs into the neighbourhood,” said developer Ian Gillespie. He submitted his application last week for the unusual project at 60 West Cordova.

It sits on the border of Gastown and the Downtown Eastside, on the neighbouring block to his Woodward’s project that combined condos, social housing, a university fine-arts centre and offices in the formerly derelict department store.

Not providing parking has two benefits. It lowers the cost of the units, since a single parking stall typically costs $30,000 to $40,000 to build downtown; that saving will be passed on to the buyer. As well, Mr. Gillespie believes the lack of parking will act as an automatic filter to keep out better-off households.
I've always wondered why developers haven't offered this sort of thing - bare bones condos. Surely they could built just concrete shells, like the original lofts in old warehouses, and let buyers build out their own interiors.

Anyway it's great to see a developer experimenting with new forms that will bring more affordable options to the masses.
     
     
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^I guess this is some sort of experiment with the city? 'Cause don't they normally require a certain number of parking stalls per unit.

Maybe this building will be limited to a single floor of underground, or part of the ground floor, for car parking (visitors / maintenance / car share / deliveries), bicycle lockers, storage lockers, garbage/recycling, and any other required mechanical spaces.
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 8:33 PM
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The Downtown Eastside’s most vocal advocacy group says it is opposed to the project because, even though its ownership is geared to low-income households, it will still bring gentrification and increased property prices to the neighbourhood.

“This was a prime lot that could have been used for 100-per-cent social housing,” said Wendy Pedersen of the Carnegie Community Action Project.

Give me a fucking break!!!

Kudos to Westbank for actually trying to adress the affordability issue in Vancouver instead of building more luxury condos.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2010, 8:51 PM
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Give me a fucking break!!!

Kudos to Westbank for actually trying to adress the affordability issue in Vancouver instead of building more luxury condos.
Yes. There needs to be more for the "working poor" who contribute to society, instead of 100% the "Gimme free things" crowd.

Arguing against this proves their true motives. They NEVER want the DTES to become more than a slum.

They can't. It would ruin them, and the power they think they hold over the people who reside there.
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^Agreed. There are a lot of people who to perpetuate the downtown eastside, as effectively a ghetto.

As an aisde on the parking issue, I had two parking spots at my place on Homer Street; ridiculous since I never owned a car while I lived in Vancouver. I would have happily traded two parking spots for a larger unit.I think minimum standards (except for loading and visitor shouldng and visitor) should be banned. The development community will quickly figure out what the true demand (at a price) is viable.
     
     
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This is cool. A developer that actually listens to what most people would say about home ownership these days. I wish the project succeeds in getting through the bureaucratic red tape. =O

While we're at it, maybe someone should spread this concept elsewhere... and also expand this concept and make larger condos for working class families. =)
     
     
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