Tucson Development Thread

[crzyabe]

Originally Posted by Obadno

That you claim people in Phoenix live close to chain restaurants as if that is demonstrative of some sort of low culture or undeveloped city.

Yet Central midtown has an olive Garden yet Downtown Phoenix does not.

Its a strawman, all cities have chains, and the suburbs of all cities are....like suburbs.

The quote about Phoenix's lack of culture and love of Olive Garden is not my quote, but I do not recall it's origin.

Your point about other large metro areas having similar suburbs is accurate, however those cites do not have the same endless sprawl reputation for which Phoenix is constantly berated. Whether is fair or unfair criticism is matter of opinion.

[azsunsurfer]

I think everyone just needs to stay in their lane!

[hthomas]

I wish it would blow up and take out Phoenix so we could stop having these pointless pissing contests. Nobody cares. Why don't you just DM each other.

[azliam]

Originally Posted by crzyabe

The quote about Phoenix's lack of culture and love of Olive Garden is not my quote, but I do not recall it's origin.

Your point about other large metro areas having similar suburbs is accurate, however those cites do not have the same endless sprawl reputation for which Phoenix is constantly berated. Whether is fair or unfair criticism is matter of opinion.

It's all a matter of opinion as to what defines sprawl. When it comes to urban area sprawl, Phoenix is most certainly not the worst offender and many urban areas of cities including Dallas, Houston, Boston, Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis, Tampa, Baltimore, St. Louis, Cleveland, San Antonio, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Orlando, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Columbus, and Austin, and yes, Tucson all are worse offenders.

[kaneui]

As Photobucket has discontinued their image linking and third-party hosting for free, I will be switching over to Flickr or a similar host ASAP, so have a little patience until I can get the images restored to the Tucson and Flagstaff development lists.

[combusean]

City vs city discussions are forbidden on SSP for precisely the last couple pages.

This is called the Tucson Development Thread for a reason, so please keep it that way.

[ASU Diablo]

http://247wallst.com/special-report/...-to-live-in/6/

[southtucsonboy77]

Originally Posted by airomero83

http://247wallst.com/special-report/...-to-live-in/6/

What gets missed in these headlines is that there's the "city"...and then there's the "metro/region". The City of Tucson definitely has several issues, but what makes the region a more livable place are the comprehensive towns of Marana, Oro Valley, Sahuarita...and unincorporated areas of Vail, Foothills, Casas Adobes, Tortolita, Tucson Mountains, and Green Valley.

[southtucsonboy77]

What's going up? Homeless, senior and student housing on the rise

Nice little summary from a few days ago. Tyndall student housing got its permit.

[Eapiwo]

Originally Posted by crzyabe

In that presentation, the below concept was presented for the parking lot to the west of 44 E Broadway

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this not the ugliest rendering to surface in Tucson? It looks like the work of designing the building was given to two architects -- one who designed the top floors and the other the bottom and neither individual was in contact with the other. This building will only accent the hideousness that is its neighbors rather than disguising them. Why on Earth would they split the building's design in half like that? Mixing architectural styles in such a concrete (literally concrete) way is going to make a franken-building monster. We'd be lucky for godzilla to roll around and erase this atrocity into a pile of rubble.
And don't get me wrong, there are some good elements to the design like the vines in the bottom half and the glass on the top but a DJ shouldn't mix an amazing Johnny Cash song with a Queen song and expect something fantastic, architecture is the same way. It's an art and such combinations need to be approached by those who are capable of successfully completing it. Another thing I want to point out is height. Compared to what kinds of buildings we've been seeing go up downtown, this one is much taller (FINALLY)! It looks to be around the height of the UNS building which is very prominent from all angles. I suspect that with the other prime real estate being developed downtown that the remaining properties will be pushing upwards just a little bit more. That is assuming that the arena site will go forwards as planned and that in the next 3-4 years we'll get another caterpillar/hexagon sized workforce moving in downtown.

[Ted Lyons]

I'm not even sure what's really going on with the front. The west side is likely devoid of detail because it would abut The Westerner.

[crzyabe]

Originally Posted by Eapiwo

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this not the ugliest rendering to surface in Tucson?

There is no way this design will be built. I think this is simply a concept image to show the potential for that space. They said they are looking to turn that lot into a "Corporate HQ Opportunity". They probably wanted to show something with more interest than a simple glass, 4 story building. Although this rendering misses the mark in my opinion.

I will be wrong and this thing will break ground by Fall

[Ted Lyons]

Fencing is up at 950 N Tyndall.

[ProfessorMole]

Originally Posted by Ted Lyons

Fencing is up at 950 N Tyndall.

Has anyone heard any more about Mama's going in the bottom of one of the towers? Heard murmurs last week it was almost a done deal, but nothing concrete.

[Ted Lyons]

Originally Posted by ProfessorMole

Has anyone heard any more about Mama's going in the bottom of one of the towers? Heard murmurs last week it was almost a done deal, but nothing concrete.

Their sign is already up at Hub 1.

[Tloc]

I'm hearing of a basement bar in the AZ Hotel Apartments and a beer garden in its back parking lot.

[southtucsonboy77]

Mini Entertainment Mecca taking shape at Congress & Scott in Downtown Tucson

"A new Vintage Arcade will be coming this fall to 63 East Congress Street, at the northwest corner of Congress and Scott Avenue, in Downtown Tucson."

[Ted Lyons]

Was just going to post that. I've heard good things about Cobra Arcade Bar, so this is really promising.

[southtucsonboy77]

For informational purposes since its a SkyscraperPage, the tallest building in L.A. and west of the Mississippi had its grand opening. US Bank Tower is now #2. Very interesting thoughts and ideas on this skyscraper and skyscrapers in general in this article and related articles.

A new skyscraper for Los Angeles: Wilshire Grand makes its debut

[southtucsonboy77]