LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0

[superfishy]

Originally Posted by Illithid Dude

Regardless, there will never be an angel statue at the top of the Angels Flight development, so we should probably stop discussing it.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[CaliNative]

[QUOTE=Illithid Dude;8025505]Regardless, there will never be an angel statue at the top of the Angels Flight development, so we should probably stop discussing it.[/QUOTE

No angel statue for Angels Landing project next to Angels Flight in the City of Angels? Actually, it needn't be an angel. A winged "Olympia" or winged victory "Nike" would be just fine and perfect for a 3 time Olympic city in my humble opinion. Just a modest suggestion. But I will stop discussing it since it is purely conjectural and unlikely and not in the preliminary plans, so you are correct. All suggestions and comments on the project henceforth should be on the specific page for Angels Flight, which I see now exists.

[IMBY]

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

Mass exodus of the wealthy have been predicted for California for decades, it's not happened. It won't happen this time either, there are lots of reasons to live here as opposed to a low tax state such as Texas. I doubt it'll have much of effect on high end real estate, upper middle class properties on the other hand might be impacted.

When you're wealthy you can afford to hire the best tax attorney's and tax consultants and pay little or no taxes, no matter what state you live in. When the tax on the rich was 90% during the 1950's, and high tax rates in the 1960's, there were any number of wealthy in Beverly Hills, during that time, that paid little or no taxes. My first partner in Minnesota was extremely wealthy, and he used to brag: I never pay taxes!

During that high tax on the wealthy period of the 1950's, how on earth did Reagan afford a home in Pacific Palisades and a ranch in the San Fernando Valley? Wouldn't you have liked to meet his tax consultant?

William Buffet's secretary pays more tax than her boss!

I did one of my one day'ers to L.A. Tuesday, and I have to have at least one adventure: Commuter train from Union Station to Lancaster, up and back. Had never been up those parts, and I saw, only from the train windows, very little if any construction. No cranes! What gives in that area of L.A.? Please don't say lots of Nimby's in those areas! Yes, a few high rises I could see in Glendale, Burbank, but why not more? I do see some potential for a viable downtown Lancaster one day, but is there a downtown Palmdale? I did see a big, newer 5 story apartment building from the train window near Palmdale, but it's stuck in the middle of nowhere!

Dinner at Grand Central Market, and, as always, I go out the back door to gape at my favorite towers in L.A., the curved glass towers, and tried to imagine the Angel Tower going up there. Not a lot of space there next to the Pershing Square subway entrance. This will be incorporated in the project?

My 10:10pm flight was cancelled, they didn't cancel it until 1am, and? All flights to Las Vegas on Wednesday booked solid! Option-less, I rented a car to return, and haven't done that in 15 years, but as I drove on I-10, at 2am, with an all-but-darkened skyline, it looked very ominous with those towers under construction, so happy to see DTLA move into adulthood!

Downtown, along the freeway I noticed a long colorful low-rise green or blue building? wall? all lit up. What's with that?

[sopas ej]

Originally Posted by IMBY

Downtown, along the freeway I noticed a long colorful low-rise green or blue building? wall? all lit up. What's with that?

Do you mean the convention center? If so, that's been there for decades (the not-so-new anymore part). It may not have been lit up all the time, but it has for many years now.

[Blesha13]

http://globenewswire.com/news-release/20...rand-Center-in-Downtown-Los-Angeles.html

Keep your eyes peeled at the skyline on New Year's Eve!

[LDVArch]

Originally Posted by Illithid Dude

By using metal and (hopefully not) stucco, the building looses the depth the limestone gave it, becoming just another blocky metal mass that is so common these days (like the Omni proposal for Angels Flight).

Walt Disney Hall was supposed to be clad in limestone. It was too expensive to cut the limestone. Turned out ok without it, wouldn't you say?

The limestone on the GA towers would have had a smoother surface effect. The metal panels will have more of a fish-scale effect or so it appears. The latter surface effect is more Gehry, than the former.

[IMBY]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

Do you mean the convention center? If so, that's been there for decades (the not-so-new anymore part). It may not have been lit up all the time, but it has for many years now.

So that colorful lighting was the convention center. Nice touch!

[pwright1]

Didn't realize how imposing Circa and Oceanwide Plaza are from the Christmas tree and ice skating ring at LA Live on a recent visit.

[citywatch]

Originally Posted by pwright1

Didn't realize how imposing Circa and Oceanwide Plaza are from the Christmas tree and ice skating ring at LA Live on a recent visit.

if I didn't know better, I'd think the pic had been digitally altered....I'm trying to imagine the way that part of dt is arranged & I'd never have thought the new bldgs on Fig St would be that visible from the courtyard of LA live.

dtla is finally getting closer & closer to what it should have been like yrs ago.

blesha13's link is another reminder of how things have changed. it wasn't too many yrs ago that dtla was the last place ppl either living in or visiting LA would have wanted to be on NYE.


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[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by IMBY

When you're wealthy you can afford to hire the best tax attorney's and tax consultants and pay little or no taxes, no matter what state you live in. When the tax on the rich was 90% during the 1950's, and high tax rates in the 1960's, there were any number of wealthy in Beverly Hills, during that time, that paid little or no taxes. My first partner in Minnesota was extremely wealthy, and he used to brag: I never pay taxes!

During that high tax on the wealthy period of the 1950's, how on earth did Reagan afford a home in Pacific Palisades and a ranch in the San Fernando Valley? Wouldn't you have liked to meet his tax consultant?

William Buffet's secretary pays more tax than her boss!

I did one of my one day'ers to L.A. Tuesday, and I have to have at least one adventure: Commuter train from Union Station to Lancaster, up and back. Had never been up those parts, and I saw, only from the train windows, very little if any construction. No cranes! What gives in that area of L.A.? Please don't say lots of Nimby's in those areas! Yes, a few high rises I could see in Glendale, Burbank, but why not more? I do see some potential for a viable downtown Lancaster one day, but is there a downtown Palmdale? I did see a big, newer 5 story apartment building from the train window near Palmdale, but it's stuck in the middle of nowhere!

Dinner at Grand Central Market, and, as always, I go out the back door to gape at my favorite towers in L.A., the curved glass towers, and tried to imagine the Angel Tower going up there. Not a lot of space there next to the Pershing Square subway entrance. This will be incorporated in the project?

My 10:10pm flight was cancelled, they didn't cancel it until 1am, and? All flights to Las Vegas on Wednesday booked solid! Option-less, I rented a car to return, and haven't done that in 15 years, but as I drove on I-10, at 2am, with an all-but-darkened skyline, it looked very ominous with those towers under construction, so happy to see DTLA move into adulthood!

Downtown, along the freeway I noticed a long colorful low-rise green or blue building? wall? all lit up. What's with that?

Keep in mind the 90% tax rate was on income over a fairly large income at the time, and the 90% was only levied on the portion of the income over that amount, that's the way a graduated tax system works. So NO ONE ever paid 90%.

As far as construction here in Glendale, there's not much over by the tracks, most construction right now is over about a mile to the east and is multi-unit residential and not all that tall(under 10 stories). Most of the taller buildings here are along Brand Blvd and were built in the 80's and 90's.

[ChelseaFC]

Can anyone help me complete this list of DTLA hotels projects? What should be added?

Recently opened
Ace Hotel
Courtyard/Residence Inn
Hotel Indigo
Freehand Hotel
Intercontinental Hotel

Under construction
NoMad Hotel - January 20 2018
Hotel Figueroa - February 7 2018
Proper Hotel - Summer 18
Hoxton Hotel - Fall 18
Broadway Trade Center Hotel - 2019
Park Hyatt - 2019
Cambria Hotel - 2019

Proposed
Figueroa Center Tower Hotel
Fig + Pico Hotel
City Lights Tower Hotel
Western Pacific Building Onni Hotel
W Hotel
Mondrian Hotel at Angels Landing Tower
Equinox Hotel

[saybanana]

The Milner Hotel is undergoing renovations.
https://urbanize.la/post/south-parks-ritz-milner-hotel-closes-renovations

[caldor120la]

FOR HOTEL UPDATES:
Western Pacific Building conversion by Onni now creative offices, would have been a nice hotel site. This just announced past month or so.

[colemonkee]

In non-hotel updates, the south Circa tower is now almost fully enclosed in glass (just a tiny sliver of a row left), and on the north tower, glass is very quickly climbing up the back where the construction skip used to be. With how quickly the glass shot up these towers, I would expect these two to be fully clad on the outside by year's end (if they're working next week) or the first week of January. After that, it will be podium cladding and interior work, and these should be set for mid-2018 delivery.

[CastleScott]

Just think guys on deck for LA two 900+ footers, two or possibly more 800+ footers and lots of other stuff-could a 1,200 footer be in the next round?

Happy Holidays all!!

[headcheckjj]

Some lots ripe for development during the next wave of construction. Hoping for something large on at least some of these:

[user2468]

Decided to take a stroll in Downtown today. No surprise, there has hardly any activity in the area so it was a surreal experience walking around without the usual background noise of traffic. Anyways, enjoy this photo update!

900 S. Figueroa Street (Apex II) - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Metropolis - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Oceanwide Plaza #1 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Oceanwide Plaza #2 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Oceanwide Plaza #3 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Circa [Foreground] & Oceanwide Plaza [Background] - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Oceanwide Plaza #4 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Circa - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

1212 S. Flower Street #1 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

1212 S. Flower Street #2 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

Oceanwide Plaza #5 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

1120 S. Grand Avenue #1 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

1120 S. Grand Avenue #2 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

888 S. Hope Street - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

825 S. Hill Street #1 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

825 S. Hill Street #2 - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

732 S. Spring Street - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

751 S. Spring Street - 12/25/2017 by Juan Gomez, on Flickr

[Easy]

Nice update.

[hughfb3]

Yeah!! Great update. Loving the frankentowers and their design. Also, the circa towers are unique and it stands out that they aren’t boxes and have all of those curves

[colemonkee]

Phenomenal update!