[Moncton] Downtown Developments - Page 322

MonctonRad · #**6421** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 12:36 PM**

New microbrewery planned for 175 Barker Street (Victory Industrial Park).

from Huddle
https://huddle.today/2022/10/03/grassroots-moncton-brewery-will-get-permanent-home/

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The 5,000-square-foot space will be half dedicated to the brewing process. The other fifty percent will be for guests and events and retail. The taproom will seat 100 people inside and “at least 50” outside on a patio, noted Gonzales.

“It’s going to be a huge exterior and patio space and a very large taproom space for people to come and host events and gather,” he said.

Gonzales said that once the brewery opens, there are longer-term plans to open a full-service restaurant there as well.

josh_cat_eyes · #**6422** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 2:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

New microbrewery planned for 175 Barker Street (Victory Industrial Park).

from Huddle
https://huddle.today/2022/10/03/grassroots-moncton-brewery-will-get-permanent-home/

This is huge for this area. I find this park to be really dumpy and run down, so it’s nice to see it get a shot of new life.

NBNYer · #**6423** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 3:43 PM**

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New microbrewery planned for 175 Barker Street (Victory Industrial Park).

O'Creek got started as a home brewery in Dieppe just a few years ago. It's great to see them expand like this. Hopefully the location isn't too much of a gamble.

Monctoncore · #**6424** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 6:38 PM**

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O'Creek got started as a home brewery in Dieppe just a few years ago. It's great to see them expand like this. Hopefully the location isn't too much of a gamble.

Agreed, it’s a great location for production, but a bit off the beaten path when it comes to having a patio and restaurant. I could be wrong and hopefully it succeeds!

MonctonRad · #**6425** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 6:47 PM**

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Agreed, it’s a great location for production, but a bit off the beaten path when it comes to having a patio and restaurant. I could be wrong and hopefully it succeeds!

Well, Tire Shack at High and John has a bit of a dodgy location too, but is doing famously and is expanding. Little Louis for that matter is only a couple of blocks from O'Creek's proposed location and is located on the second floor of a nondescript industrial building on Collishaw and is also doing well (AFAIK).

Aesthetics here may not be an issue. As long as the beer is good!

lirette · #**6426** Posted **Oct 3, 2022, 6:57 PM**

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Well, Tire Shack at High and John has a bit of a dodgy location too, but is doing famously and is expanding. Little Louis for that matter is only a couple of blocks from O'Creek's proposed location and is located on the second floor of a nondescript industrial building on Collishaw and is also doing well (AFAIK).

Aesthetics here may not be an issue. As long as the beer is good!

O'Creek beer is very very good. Just my opinion (and the ratings on untapped agree) but I think they have the best craft beer in the GMA. Breweries in locations like this isn't anything new really. Flying Boats is similarly located in Dieppe as well. Nice proximity to downtown, the sports plex, centennial park, YMCA etc.

I think the only place left in town where I could see another brewery getting added is in the North End.

MonctonRad · #**6427** Posted **Oct 4, 2022, 3:39 AM**

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Brix coffee shop is now open in the LOL building on St-George. Beautiful, high-end decor and good coffee. Perhaps just a few kinks to iron out but I’m sure they’ll end up doing great. They also plan on using the space as a bar during evenings. I can see this double concept being popular with UdeM nearby.

Photo found on Facebook:

BlackYear · #**6428** Posted **Oct 4, 2022, 4:35 AM**

Anyone here went to see the LocalFest on Canada st on Saturday?
https://loveforlocal.ca

It was kinda interesting, bands on the Ian Fowler stage, beer garden next to the Ian oval, a line up of food trucks, a good amount of local vendors under the tents on each side of Canada st., a real live camel, and all sorts of other stuff. The crowd was pretty good during the time I was there.

The atmosphere was amazing, a small passing freight train blowing the horn, then moments later the Via Passenger train arrived, lots of traffic on Main, and, I saw for the very first time, a passing Codiac bus jam packed of passengers.

This was a great event IMO to bring the people outside, downtown and see the sights. I hope this will be an annual event. With phase 2 of Junction Village apartments almost complete, the 3 Sisters apartments, and 3-4 new apartments on nearby side streets can only make this better next year.

CreamOfpumpkin · #**6429** Posted **Oct 4, 2022, 3:41 PM**

The proposed brewery is awesome, location wise leaves much to be desired. I dont know if anyone frequents the area on foot, but the Coop granary is just beside the location and I can tell you firsthand, every single day the whole place stinks like dog food. I would not like to be outside anytime in the heat or the sun for that matter. It's really really bad, and on top of that the granary has made a home for loads of undesirable critters, the rat and seagull population is out of control.

jonny golden · #**6430** Posted **Oct 5, 2022, 9:05 PM**

Has there been anything more about the land between the Via Rail station and Shoppers? Wasn't there talk a while back about a strip mall going there? I know there was a "retail opportunity" sign on the property for a long long time. It would be a pretty good location for the right tenant(s).

josh_cat_eyes · #**6431** Posted **Oct 5, 2022, 11:30 PM**

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Has there been anything more about the land between the Via Rail station and Shoppers? Wasn't there talk a while back about a strip mall going there? I know there was a "retail opportunity" sign on the property for a long long time. It would be a pretty good location for the right tenant(s).

It’s available for lease from Crombie REIT. They won’t build anything without a tenant.

jonny golden · #**6432** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 3:13 PM**

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It’s available for lease from Crombie REIT. They won’t build anything without a tenant.

You'd think the retail market would be there for this location. Especially with all the near by residential units being built, and currently in the planning stages. I guess they don't think that "if you build it they will come". Maybe when more apartments are completed close by we'll see a retail plaza on this property.

OliverD · #**6433** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 3:56 PM**

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You'd think the retail market would be there for this location. Especially with all the near by residential units being built, and currently in the planning stages. I guess they don't think that "if you build it they will come". Maybe when more apartments are completed close by we'll see a retail plaza on this property.

You probably can't get financing without leases in place.

jonny golden · #**6434** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 4:19 PM**

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You probably can't get financing without leases in place.

I guess they'll just keep using it as a snow dump! Which looks pretty dirty every spring.

josh_cat_eyes · #**6435** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 4:57 PM**

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You probably can't get financing without leases in place.

Yeah generally that’s how most developments works. You generally have to have a certain percentage of the leasable area sold before construction starts.

jonny golden · #**6436** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 5:08 PM**

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Yeah generally that’s how most developments works. You generally have to have a certain percentage of the leasable area sold before construction starts.

I just can't help but think that if they built something "on spec" it would be a very desirable location. Of course Crombie knows a lot more than I do about retail property development. Maybe they're working on a plan for 1222 Main Street! Probably not.

MonctonRad · #**6437** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 6:13 PM**

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I just can't help but think that if they built something "on spec" it would be a very desirable location.

It's not a slam dunk location. Sure, it's between a busy Shoppers Drug Mart and the downtown VIA station, and across the street from the Sobeys plaza, but this is not a very pedestrian friendly area.

The Junction Village is close by, but I think more nearby residential will be necessary before this land becomes a hot commercial commodity. If Crombie came up with a decent redevelopment plan for 1222 Main, extending the build back to Canada Street, that would certainly make a difference in the area.

Get back in touch with me in 25 years time.

jonny golden · #**6438** Posted **Oct 6, 2022, 10:07 PM**

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It's not a slam dunk location. Sure, it's between a busy Shoppers Drug Mart and the downtown VIA station, and across the street from the Sobeys plaza, but this is not a very pedestrian friendly area.

The Junction Village is close by, but I think more nearby residential will be necessary before this land becomes a hot commercial commodity. If Crombie came up with a decent redevelopment plan for 1222 Main, extending the build back to Canada Street, that would certainly make a difference in the area.

Get back in touch with me in 25 years time.

I can see that more residential would make that land more attractive for a retail plaza. There's that building planned on the NW corner of Main/Vaughan Harvey, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more residential added to the Junction in the future.

And it's a shame Crombie wouldn't do something with 1222 Main. Such a waste of potential. I hope your 25 year time frame doesn't prove to be accurate!

stephan.richard · #**6439** Posted **Oct 7, 2022, 2:42 AM**

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I can see that more residential would make that land more attractive for a retail plaza. There's that building planned on the NW corner of Main/Vaughan Harvey, and I wouldn't be surprised to see more residential added to the Junction in the future.

And it's a shame Crombie wouldn't do something with 1222 Main. Such a waste of potential. I hope your 25 year time frame doesn't prove to be accurate!

What I would see there would be a potential location for a upscaled Simons store with a smaller mall next door.

NBNYer · #**6440** Posted **Oct 7, 2022, 10:34 AM**

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What I would see there would be a potential location for a upscaled Simons store with a smaller mall next door.

Ha! Tu rêves en couleur.