Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[Always Sunny in SLC]

Originally Posted by nushiof

Great stuff happening.

Does anyone have an update on the Convention Center Hotel? Groundbreaking date? Operator? I thought we'd know that stuff before year end.

Once the CCH breaks ground, we'll have 4 major projects in the works!

I don't know of a project that is more of a tease than this one. I am stunned that with State, County and City help this project isn't just a slam dunk, but obviously there keeps being hang ups and resets. My guess is they are having a hard time finding an operator.

[Atlas]

Just came across this design for a building that's under construction in St. Louis (and I think it is actually looking better than the render) called "One Hundred." Do you guys think a building like this would look good in Salt Lake City? It's about the same size as most of the designs for towers in SLC, but ours seem to be much more conservative (boring, some would say) than this.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Always Sunny in SLC

I don't know of a project that is more of a tease than this one. I am stunned that with State, County and City help this project isn't just a slam dunk, but obviously there keeps being hang ups and resets. My guess is they are having a hard time finding an operator.

Guys, it takes some time to produce the documents for building permit and construction. So, it's probably gearing up for the first permits of demolition and excavation to be submitted by the first quarter of this year. I bet that we will see some action on the site in early spring of 2020.

[Always Sunny in SLC]

Originally Posted by Orlando

Guys, it takes some time to produce the documents for building permit and construction. So, it's probably gearing up for the first permits of demolition and excavation to be submitted by the first quarter of this year. I bet that we will see some action on the site in early spring of 2020.

My comments are about the long saga and not just the latest iteration of CCH. The CCH has had more stop and starts than my younger self learning to drive a clutch. With that said the initial information stated an end of 2019 start so not hearing anything with 2.5 weeks left in the year sounds like a delay.

[Merewether]

Salt Lake City Planning Division survey on affordable housing. This seems specifically for residents of the city proper.
https://www.slc.gov/planning/2019/12...using-overlay/

[Hatman]

Originally Posted by FullCircle

I'm not speaking for Hatman, but free transit would allow people to live in the cheaper suburbs and still make it to downtown for work without the high cost of commuting in their own vehicle (plus all the other benefits of fewer cars on the road, less polution, etc.). I think that was what he was referring to (sorry if I'm wrong, Hatman, but I'll go ahead and make the statement for myself either way).

You stated my position very well.

And thanks, Bob_rulz, for disagreeing nicely while I am angry. You are a first-rate forumer.

I am very much in favor of using government assistance to help out people who need it, and I'm disheartened about what a mess these assistance systems are. My own criteria is that these ought to provide equal opportunities for all residents. It is when equality is extended past opportunities to equal outcomes that I disagree. People are different and should not be made to be equal. The same goes for groups of people.
When it comes to living downtown, I don't see a way to provide an equal opportunity to have everyone live downtown. What we can do is guarantee that everyone has access to downtown. Hence my position against subsidized housing for some and pro free transit for all.

However I acknowledge that theory is often incompatible with the real world and that there is value in running a real experiment. I only wish that this experiment with subsidized housing wasn't given so much priority that people are cheering on the destruction of the old Theater.

[UrbanFlaneur]

Originally Posted by nushiof

Great stuff happening.

Does anyone have an update on the Convention Center Hotel? Groundbreaking date? Operator? I thought we'd know that stuff before year end.

Once the CCH breaks ground, we'll have 4 major projects in the works!

I heard from a source last week that plans are to begin site work on the CCH sometime in February.

[Utah_Dave]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Just came across this design for a building that's under construction in St. Louis (and I think it is actually looking better than the render) called "One Hundred." Do you guys think a building like this would look good in Salt Lake City? It's about the same size as most of the designs for towers in SLC, but ours seem to be much more conservative (boring, some would say) than this.

The building looks kinda strange for me. However it could make for a nice crown portion of a building. Maybe I’m too old fashion taste wise. It wouldn’t bother me though. Maybe if the building were taller it would work even better too. Gotta give them credit though.

[SLC PopPunk]

Construction fencing is now up at the Birdie site. Hopefully excavation begins soon.

[nushiof]

Temporary chain link fencing is being installed on the Carl's Jr./Kensington lot this morning near the billboard. Cars are still coming through the drive-through.

[Orlando]

/\/\/\ I think it's a race between Kensington and Hines. Not sure if both can or will be built.

[Utah_Dave]

Originally Posted by Orlando

/\/\/\ I think it's a race between Kensington and Hines. Not sure if both can or will be built.

Yeah, that’s my concern. Kensington and Liberty Sky, seems to be enough high end Apartments for a while. Was there a rough time table given on the Hines project?

[LeroyJenkins]

Originally Posted by nushiof

Temporary chain link fencing is being installed on the Carl's Jr./Kensington lot this morning near the billboard. Cars are still coming through the drive-through.

This is for early foundation testing to be done. It will be back to normal in no time.

[LeroyJenkins]

Originally Posted by UrbanFlaneur

I heard from a source last week that plans are to begin site work on the CCH sometime in February.

Our source also says early to mid February 2020. Exciting times for SLC.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

The building looks kinda strange for me. However it could make for a nice crown portion of a building. Maybe I’m too old fashion taste wise. It wouldn’t bother me though. Maybe if the building were taller it would work even better too. Gotta give them credit though.

I tend to agree with you Dave. In fact, I would even go so far as to say it looks very strange. That pattern continued through the entire tower is just way too much of a good thing. However, I like your suggestion of using that pattern as the crown. You could even possibly use the same pattern at the bottom as long as the body of the tower had a corresponding design that worked well with the top and base.

[ajiuO]

If no one had told me what this building was my first guess would have been that it was a Las Vegas casino tower that was demolished in 1989 in order to make room for a modern resort.

[Boz]

That building is fugly yo.

Stop quoting that ugly image lol

[Utah_Dave]

Give me the Kensington tower with a 75 ft lighted spire!!!

Drooling emoji

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Hatman

You stated my position very well.

And thanks, Bob_rulz, for disagreeing nicely while I am angry. You are a first-rate forumer.

I am very much in favor of using government assistance to help out people who need it, and I'm disheartened about what a mess these assistance systems are. My own criteria is that these ought to provide equal opportunities for all residents. It is when equality is extended past opportunities to equal outcomes that I disagree. People are different and should not be made to be equal. The same goes for groups of people.
When it comes to living downtown, I don't see a way to provide an equal opportunity to have everyone live downtown. What we can do is guarantee that everyone has access to downtown. Hence my position against subsidized housing for some and pro free transit for all.

However I acknowledge that theory is often incompatible with the real world and that there is value in running a real experiment. I only wish that this experiment with subsidized housing wasn't given so much priority that people are cheering on the destruction of the old Theater.

Thanks, I do my best to debate things with a level head. I will always admit when I'm not as knowledgeable on a subject as I wish I was though and this is one of the those cases. I don't know what the right answers are, but it's a subject that's very important to me and I'm working on learning more. This ALL interests me - which is why I'm a city planning student.

And yes, our assistance systems are a mess. But that's something that needs to be tackled at the state and federal levels - a city can only do so much, and I think should do what they can. No, we may not be able to provide for a downtown that has equal housing for everybody, but we can certainly do better.

Originally Posted by Utah_Dave

Give me the Kensington tower with a 75 ft lighted spire!!!

Drooling emoji

Ditto! Salt Lake needs more spires!

[Boz]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Ditto! Salt Lake needs more spires!

How about, Salt Lake needs A spire!