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Old Posted Nov 24, 2015, 5:52 PM
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The guy building that funky office building is a freak, he also wants to "build" a 92k sqaure foot home in the surburbs of OKC. Yes 92000, insane. One good tornado.. and like magic its gone. lol



http://www.news9.com/story/24959146/...est-home-in-us
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2015, 2:04 AM
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The guy building that funky office building is a freak, he also wants to "build" a 92k sqaure foot home in the surburbs of OKC. Yes 92000, insane. One good tornado.. and like magic its gone. lol



http://www.news9.com/story/24959146/...est-home-in-us
This would look great on Mt Bonnell /s
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2015, 5:41 AM
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Wow, what was I thinking yesterday... the stocking-lady-on-a-toilet is truly hideous, especially as a monolith surrounded by surface parking. The tornado part of it is interesting, though. As hookem said, add 40 stories and it gets better, especially if you get rid of the core of the building and make it three twisters twisting around one another. It could go well in Doha's garish skyline.

The 92,000 sf house design looks perfect for the Epcot Center.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2015, 11:59 PM
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The most expensive street in Texas is in downtown Austin

AUSTIN -- Austin's residential real estate market isn't alone when it comes to skyrocketing prices. In fact, a new report from JLL reveals the most expensive commercial streets in the U.S., and one is in the heart of downtown.

Congress Avenue is the 11th most expensive street in America - and the most expensive in Texas - according to the report. The investment firm found that the average rent on this downtown thoroughfare is $48.11 per square foot, $16 higher than the Austin market average.
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local...stin/76414014/
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2015, 3:47 AM
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File this under random nonsense seen on Streetview. An apparent homeless guy at 6th & Trinity with a "Fuck Obama" sign. Apparently he didn't get his check.

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Old Posted Nov 28, 2015, 5:52 AM
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Never underestimate Obama's universal lack of appeal.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2015, 6:20 AM
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2015, 8:59 AM
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Clearly his lack of appeal was far from universal since, well, a majority of voters backed him in both of his elections and his approval rating has been consistently, on average, between 42 and 52 since his reelection, and has never been worse than -11 net in his entire presidency. Currently on average 44% approve of Obama's job performance, give or take depending on the poll (Pollster's content is really useful, you two should check it out). And when it comes to personally, Obama has had a net positive favorability rating in Pollster's average since June 15th of this year, has historically been seen net positively, and even in the short stretch of time where he was seen personally net negative he never sunk worse than -5 and there has never been an on average majority that has personally disliked Obama. Ever.

In short, you're simply wrong. There is no widespread dislike or disapproval of the president. Rather, there is a closely divided partisan country where one half loves its people and the other half loves its people and they each hate each others' peoples. Obama is a Democrat, so you work out the math. Bush was a Republican, same thing. But the difference there was that even Republicans ended up hating Bush by the end of his presidency (with average approvals into the 20s at times) and since then even rejecting his preferred policies. Would Bush, as an avid promoter of immigration reform, make it through a primary against Trump? Probably not, since his brother Jeb, who is by some academic measures further to the right than George, can't even do it as a "moderate." It's insane that Obama will have ended his presidency still beloved by their half of the country. In fact, the only Democrat ever to not maintain the backing of ~45% or more of the country throughout most of their presidency was Carter (who faced horrible internal divisions within his party at that time, which resulted in an intense primary campaign with Kennedy which was only narrowly decided at the critical points), and his post-presidency has been a resounding success both professionally, politically, and personally which has done wonders for his image. You cannot say the same about Republicans, who have often ended their presidencies in disgrace (Nixon, Bush II), public rebuke (Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Bush II), or internal party division (Ford, who was primaried by Reagan, Bush I, who was primaried by Pat Buchanan). Only TWO modern Republican presidents were able to maintain the support of a large faction of American society throughout their presidential career, Eisenhower and Reagan, but even the latter was a controversial political figure within his own party prior to his presidency.

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Clearly his lack of appeal was far from universal since, well, a majority of voters backed him in both of his elections and his approval rating has been consistently, on average, between 42 and 52 since his reelection, and has never been worse than -11 net in his entire presidency. Currently on average 44% approve of Obama's job performance, give or take depending on the poll (Pollster's content is really useful, you two should check it out). And when it comes to personally, Obama has had a net positive favorability rating in Pollster's average since June 15th of this year, has historically been seen net positively, and even in the short stretch of time where he was seen personally net negative he never sunk worse than -5 and there has never been an on average majority that has personally disliked Obama. Ever.

In short, you're simply wrong. There is no widespread dislike or disapproval of the president. Rather, there is a closely divided partisan country where one half loves its people and the other half loves its people and they each hate each others' peoples. Obama is a Democrat, so you work out the math. Bush was a Republican, same thing. But the difference there was tmhat even Republicans ended up hating Bush by the end of his presidency (with average approvals into the 20s at times) and since then even rejecting his preferred policies. Would Bush, as an avid promoter of immigration reform, make it through a primary against Trump? Probably not, since his brother Jeb, who is by some academic measures further to the right than George, can't even do it as a "moderate." It's insane that Obama will have ended his presidency still beloved by their half of the country. In fact, the only Democrat ever to not maintain the backing of ~45% or more of the country throughout most of their presidency was Carter (who faced horrible internal divisions within his party at that time, which resulted in an intense primary campaign with Kennedy which was only narrowly decided at the critical points), and his post-presidency has been a resounding success both professionally, politically, and personally which has done wonders for his image. You cannot say the same about Republicans, who have often ended their presidencies in disgrace (Nixon, Bush II), public rebuke (Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Bush II), or internal party division (Ford, who was primaried by Reagan, Bush I, who was primaried by Pat Buchanan). Only TWO modern Republican presidents were able to maintain the support of a large faction of American society throughout their presidential career, Eisenhower and Reagan, but even the latter was a controversial political figure within his own party prior to his presidency.
Excellent rebuttal
No intelligent comeback on my part other than to say my point was there is no demographic that is left out in terms of disappointment with Obama's performance as our President. But that can certainly be true no matter who is in his position. I guess my personal opinion of Obama helps me to sympathize with the homeless person even though, not knowing the facts of how he got that way, I don't know why he is blaming Obama for his situation.
That being said, no one in my considerable circle, man, woman, black, hispanic, white, straight, gay, young or old, or former vet thinks Obama is doing a good job. In my relatively longish life, I don't remember this big of a united negative opinion against a current president, although George W. came close.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2015, 12:41 AM
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That being said, no one in my considerable circle, man, woman, black, hispanic, white, straight, gay, young or old, or former vet thinks Obama is doing a good job. In my relatively longish life, I don't remember this big of a united negative opinion against a current president, although George W. came close.
Yeah, but that's your circle dude, not the broader world. You can't just look at your own experiences, but you need to bring in aggregate data.
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2015, 2:05 AM
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Tend to agree with wwmiv here. I am not a big Obama fan, but I am a supporter who feels he has done a pretty good job, especially considering the long odds he faced and continues to face trying to work with a very ideological and oppositional Congress. By most any measure you choose, the country is better off today than it was when he took office in 2009. There have been no major terrorist attacks on American soil during his tenure. The economy was saved from a catastrophe and is doing fairly well. Employment is up to pre 2008 levels.. The equity markets are fully recovered and then some. The list goes on. I suppose you could try to hold Obama accountable for failing to stem the tide of chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere, but I personally think that it is unlikely that any US President can wield that much influence in world affairs. I do think a lot of Democrats who voted for Obama are more than ready to have a new leader who won't draw so much heat from the haters and the Right Wing media. It is not easy being Barak Hussein Obama and trying to lead a country where half the electorate is composed of white bread Americans many of whom are stone cold racists who would like to return to the way things were back in the 1950s. There was a LOT wrong with the way things were in the 1950s. It was not all Leave It To Beaver, I Love Lucy, and I Like Ike.
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Tend to agree with wwmiv here. I am not a big Obama fan, but I am a supporter who feels he has done a pretty good job, especially considering the long odds he faced and continues to face trying to work with a very ideological and oppositional Congress. By most any measure you choose, the country is better off today than it was when he took office in 2009. There have been no major terrorist attacks on American soil during his tenure. The economy was saved from a catastrophe and is doing fairly well. Employment is up to pre 2008 levels.. The equity markets are fully recovered and then some. The list goes on. I suppose you could try to hold Obama accountable for failing to stem the tide of chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere, but I personally think that it is unlikely that any US President can wield that much influence in world affairs. I do think a lot of Democrats who voted for Obama are more than ready to have a new leader who won't draw so much heat from the haters and the Right Wing media. It is not easy being Barak Hussein Obama and trying to lead a country where half the electorate is composed of white bread Americans many of whom are stone cold racists who would like to return to the way things were back in the 1950s. There was a LOT wrong with the way things were in the 1950s. It was not all Leave It To Beaver, I Love Lucy, and I Like Ike.
It was only Leave it To Beaver, I Love Lucy, and I Like Ike (I.E. you could only get a middle class or better lifestyle and a college education) if you were white, straight, male, non-rural, and protestant.
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I gotta say, ya'll guys are awesome! I wish we could meet up someday. I'm more of a chillax guy. Because typing on the internet doesn't show the emotion I'm giving off.
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I normally don't post pictures of myself because it's a skyscraper forum. So here's one since it's off topic.

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I hqve to say, this is my favorite view of the Austin skyline.

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I normally don't post pictures of myself because it's a skyscraper forum. So here's one since it's off topic.

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Lol... right!
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2015, 6:23 AM
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Haha, I was thinking the same thing...
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Employment is up to pre 2008 levels.
Not really, especially if you look at the U6 rate.

http://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

It's still a full point higher than 2007 (so it still hasn't returned to the pre-recession level).
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