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Old Posted Apr 7, 2016, 10:03 PM
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That last map shows the old Fido building (demolished) as Colliers Motors:

A Google search reveals this pic:


VPL 27909. Collier’s Ltd, SE Corner Georgia & Richards (a friend has described this building,
which was located around the corner from the service dept. on Homer, as being “Jetsons’ Art Moderne”).
1949, Dominion Photo.

https://vanasitwas.wordpress.com/2015/05/21/49-chevy-fleetside-deluxe-fastback/

The Shell Canada Building on the left of this pic is the site of the Trump Tower:


CVA – 2010-006.108 – Grey Cup Decorations Nov 1963 Ernie H. Reksten photo.
https://vanasitwas.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/georgia-through-a-windscreen-dimly/

This blog has a bunch of interesting pics (but the author has limited knowledge, as his commentary shows):

https://vanasitwas.wordpress.com/tag/georgia-street/

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Old Posted Apr 7, 2016, 10:27 PM
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For some reason in 1944 there was a Bailey Bridge taking Howe St. over Georgia St.
... perhaps planners toying with the idea of putting Georgia St. in an underpass (or some more practical reason)?


CVA 586-3200 – Hotel Vancouver 1944 Don Coltman photo.
https://vanasitwas.wordpress.com/tag/georgia-street/
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2016, 5:47 AM
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This video is very well done. I wish it would be longer.

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Old Posted Apr 22, 2016, 2:19 AM
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I came across this postcard online of a Motel lobby from 1958 in Duncan BC on the island. The first thing that came to mind was a new modern style house in Vancouvers west side! The materials and proportions are uncannily similar. Building is still there but painted entirely white now.


pic from: https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/8537742836
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2016, 9:37 PM
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What goes around comes back around...
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 1:35 AM
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What goes around comes back around...
Yeah, i love 50's designs

I also came across these pics that i had never seen before of the second Hotel Vancouver both under construction and demolition. No wonder the building was sinking unevenly, the size of those terracotta animal heads are huge! I also wonder if the 1946 earthquake contributed to it's subsidence issues. This building would have been a centrepiece if it were still around and would definitely upstage it's newer replacement. Too bad they didn't save any of the details.

Rooftop garden
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5360922953/in/dateposted/

Pre and post animal head installation (you would not find me sitting on one of those ever)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5341651786/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5341651786/in/dateposted/

Street view in 1946 and demolition in 1949
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5361670232/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5361670108/in/dateposted/

I cant get the pics to work for some reason like i did in my previous post
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Yeah, i love 50's designs

I also came across these pics that i had never seen before of the second Hotel Vancouver both under construction and demolition. No wonder the building was sinking unevenly, the size of those terracotta animal heads are huge! I also wonder if the 1946 earthquake contributed to it's subsidence issues. This building would have been a centrepiece if it were still around and would definitely upstage it's newer replacement. Too bad they didn't save any of the details.

Rooftop garden
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5360922953/in/dateposted/

Pre and post animal head installation (you would not find me sitting on one of those ever)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5341651786/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5341651786/in/dateposted/

Street view in 1946 and demolition in 1949
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5361670232/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45379817@N08/5361670108/in/dateposted/

I cant get the pics to work for some reason like i did in my previous post
The second Hotel Van was torn down due to near sightedness and greed. Nothing else.
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That coho motel is hideous
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2016, 9:36 PM
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The second Hotel Van was torn down due to near sightedness and greed. Nothing else.
There was known evidence of structural issues with the foundation.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2016, 4:26 PM
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There was known evidence of structural issues with the foundation.
Any evidence of this?
Have never heard of that theory in any newspaper article or book before. Would think that if that was in fact the case, that would have been noted somewhere in print at the time.
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2016, 9:27 AM
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Any evidence of this?
Have never heard of that theory in any newspaper article or book before. Would think that if that was in fact the case, that would have been noted somewhere in print at the time.
I have tried pouring through stuff online but can only find small mentions of issues and nothing specific. If i ever make it to the main library downtown ill see if they have a book with info on the hotel.

At the time though it may of been unprofitable for CP to run two large hotels so close to each other, they could of sold the building to be converted to apartments and would have earned them way more money in the short term then a parking lot in the long term. The demolition cost of a building this large would be immense, it must of been one of the largest structures in the province, even by 1948. If you consider that they took it down in the 40's, that would of been before suburbanization would of taken hold in Canada and many people would of still lived close to downtown and the need for housing would of been there.
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I have tried pouring through stuff online but can only find small mentions of issues and nothing specific. If i ever make it to the main library downtown ill see if they have a book with info on the hotel.

At the time though it may of been unprofitable for CP to run two large hotels so close to each other, they could of sold the building to be converted to apartments and would have earned them way more money in the short term then a parking lot in the long term. The demolition cost of a building this large would be immense, it must of been one of the largest structures in the province, even by 1948. If you consider that they took it down in the 40's, that would of been before suburbanization would of taken hold in Canada and many people would of still lived close to downtown and the need for housing would of been there.
You can't find nothing specific because it doesn't exist. All that exists are rumors and innuendo. Most of it starting after the hotel was already gone.

You're on to something about not running 2 large hotels at then same time. CPR and its competitor CNR (who had come to an agreement to partner in a the new hotel rather than compete with each other) didn't want any other competition for their new hotel so they collectively entered into an agreement with each other & the city to ensure nobody else would be able to operate a hotel on the site.

Regarding converting the building into apartments, remember the rental apartment market was no where even close to what it is today. That building was about 4 times the size of even the largest apartment buildings of the era, and given the slump in the local economy just a few years previous that saw the local n economy come to a screeching halt. Remember the current Hotel Vancouver saw its construction halt and be delayed for almost a decade because of the awful financial conditions in the city after its construction began. The rental market in the 1940's bears little resemblance to the one of today. That building would have been a suitable apartment in Manhattan not Vancouver. The older Hotel Vancouver closed its doors and sat vacant for years. Nobody was about to take on the project of renovating it for apartment use. There was plenty of cheap land available to build and your investment was much safer doing that then trying to reconfigure a giant hotel. The only serious offer for the building came from Timothy Eaton Co.
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Old Posted May 2, 2016, 11:43 PM
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You're on to something about not running 2 large hotels at then same time. CPR and its competitor CNR (who had come to an agreement to partner in a the new hotel rather than compete with each other) didn't want any other competition for their new hotel so they collectively entered into an agreement with each other & the city to ensure nobody else would be able to operate a hotel on the site.
Yeah, I thought it was akin to a restrictive covenant to prevent a competitor from opening a hotel on the site (or at least using the existing building, since it was much more opulent than the new (3rd) Hotel Vancouver which had an art deco interior at opening.

i.e. it's like all the Safeway properties around town have/used to have restrictive covenants registered against title in favour of Safeway prohibiting any other grocery store on the site (if the land was sold).
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Cool.
The temporary centre tower support reminds me of the one they built for the new roof at BC Place.
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Those floating gas stations were a unique hallmark of Vancouver and popular with tourists.
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I didn't know that there used to be three. Any specific reason? Did the ferries departing from Coal Harbour also refuel there? Back in those days there were a lot fewer yachts, so find three stations slightly strange.
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I didn't know that there used to be three. Any specific reason? Did the ferries departing from Coal Harbour also refuel there? Back in those days there were a lot fewer yachts, so find three stations slightly strange.
Probably the same factors in play that have left far less gas stations in the city, even though there are far more cars registered now.

Esso pulled out of the business due to liability concerns:
http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=9f34f02c-39d0-4758-8e6e-59933a99ccc3

Short history of gas barges:
http://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2013/11/02/illustrated-vancouver-vol-44-marine-gas-stations/
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