HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > City Compilations


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #621  
Old Posted Jan 1, 2007, 8:53 PM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584
Conative, for some reason your pics did not post correctly. However, your very civil and professional tone was much appreciated. I don't know if you realize it, but I have professed many times and will do so again that Western Colorado is one of my favorite spots on earth. If I were only given five areas in North America to choose as a place to live,"Western Colorado would certainly be one of them." I donot agree that the residential topography or vista's of the western Denver suburbs are as striking as the Wasatch Front, but that is only an opinion. We can differ in opinion's, but still admire the many pluses of each area. I also appreciate the fact that you went out of your way in complimenting the general positives of our area. I also apologize for calling the plains boring. I was understandably urked at the put down reference to Wasatch cities, and yes, "I was just a little sensitive about George Shaw's acumen being referred to in a very negative manner." Again, I can only speak in the highest of terms about the man and his many outstanding accomplishments, and the extremely hard work he has put in these past few years to change the direction of Sandy City in a BIG WAY.

C'mon now Conative, Very much with a smile,but you know I'm a big fan of Western Colorado and know exactly what the front range looks like from that first 3 photo vantage. You understand we realize those first three photo's from the downtown and airport perspective are WAY enchanced. The first Federal Heights,U of U, and Timp etc. are not.

Last edited by delts145; Jan 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM.
     
     
  #622  
Old Posted Jan 1, 2007, 9:08 PM
CONative's Avatar
CONative CONative is offline
Mile High Guy
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 877
No problem - the pics should show up now. No reason to argue - just wanted to make sure you saw what I see. Both cities have wonderful scenery. SLC's mountains jet up more dramatically than Denver - because Denver has the foothills that gradually move up to our 14,000 peaks. We also have gorgeous mesa's in the Denver area, and jetting flatiron rock formations and hogbacks that you don't see in SLC. I wish we had the huge lakes that you do. Both cities have wonderful vistas and views for its residents. SLC and its suburbs have recently been much more progressive than many other U.S. cities and suburbs. Denver is now recognized as one of the leaders in progressive development and infrastructure. So, they are both great places to live.

Western Colorado IS gorgeous with the largest mesa in the world (Grand Mesa) and mountain scenery. Grand Junction has grown dramatically the last few years. South Central Colorado with Sand Dunes park and collegiate peaks is equally gorgeous, and southwestern Colorado with the "alps of the rockies" and the cliff dwellings. Utah's arches park and southeastern area is simply stunning!

PS EDIT: An another note, because of the foothills near Denver blocking some angles of our 14,000 peaks -- it is actually best to see the dramatic vista views of our 14k peaks from the eastern side of the city (as you can see from my pics).
__________________
-D-

Last edited by CONative; Jan 1, 2007 at 9:22 PM.
     
     
  #623  
Old Posted Jan 2, 2007, 5:48 PM
rodan rodan is offline
Unstopable Flying Asshole
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Downtown SLC
Posts: 157
SLC is gorgeous the mountains and the urban environments. Denver is the same. One thing you can't argue though is how much better the Denver skyline currently is. So lets just leave it at that.
__________________
If carrots got you drunk, rabbits would be f***ed up.
     
     
  #624  
Old Posted Jan 2, 2007, 9:00 PM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodan View Post
SLC is gorgeous the mountains and the urban environments. Denver is the same. One thing you can't argue though is how much better the Denver skyline currently is. So lets just leave it at that.
I totally agree with you, as far as Western Colorado and behind the Front Range, and we definately have some catching up to do on the skyline. But c'mon, even with a big wink lets be honest.

Pam Anderson/WAY Enhanced


These Photos/ WAY Enhanced



These Photos/ Exactly as they appear from there respective Urban locations.


     
     
  #625  
Old Posted Jan 2, 2007, 10:56 PM
SLC Projects's Avatar
SLC Projects SLC Projects is offline
Bring out the cranes...
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 6,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodan View Post
SLC is gorgeous the mountains and the urban environments. Denver is the same. One thing you can't argue though is how much better the Denver skyline currently is. So lets just leave it at that.
For sure SLC needs to work on their skyline. LOL. Give us about five years or so.
__________________
1. "Wells Fargo Building" 24-stories 422 FT 1998
2. "LDS Church Office Building" 28-stories 420 FT 1973
3. "111 South Main" 24-stories 387 FT 2016
4. "99 West" 30-stories 375 FT 2011
5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976
     
     
  #626  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 12:15 AM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLC Projects View Post
For sure SLC needs to work on their skyline. LOL. Give us about five years or so.
SLC, when in the heck are they going to give us some REAL conceptuals of at least some of these new towers. You would think someone would have an idea by now what there going to build.
     
     
  #627  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 12:17 AM
J Church J Church is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: SF, CA
Posts: 12,883
OK, I've gotten a PM complaining about this thread.

Someone care to explain to me why I should have to monitor threads with subjects as seemingly benign as "Salt Lake development" for childish squabbling?

You can go back to talking about Utah buildings now.
__________________
San Francisco Cityscape
     
     
  #628  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 12:58 AM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584
More of these please, but even taller.



     
     
  #629  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 12:59 AM
SLC Projects's Avatar
SLC Projects SLC Projects is offline
Bring out the cranes...
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 6,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Church View Post
OK, I've gotten a PM complaining about this thread.

Someone care to explain to me why I should have to monitor threads with subjects as seemingly benign as "Salt Lake development" for childish squabbling?

You can go back to talking about Utah buildings now.


We have been. Now we are talking about the city skyline and about our new towers.
__________________
1. "Wells Fargo Building" 24-stories 422 FT 1998
2. "LDS Church Office Building" 28-stories 420 FT 1973
3. "111 South Main" 24-stories 387 FT 2016
4. "99 West" 30-stories 375 FT 2011
5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976
     
     
  #630  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 1:01 AM
SLC Projects's Avatar
SLC Projects SLC Projects is offline
Bring out the cranes...
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 6,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by delts145 View Post
More of these please, but even taller.

I love the wells fargo building. for sure we need to build more of these kinds of buildings and even taller would be great.
__________________
1. "Wells Fargo Building" 24-stories 422 FT 1998
2. "LDS Church Office Building" 28-stories 420 FT 1973
3. "111 South Main" 24-stories 387 FT 2016
4. "99 West" 30-stories 375 FT 2011
5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976
     
     
  #631  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 2:00 AM
SLC Projects's Avatar
SLC Projects SLC Projects is offline
Bring out the cranes...
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 6,108
ok, so i was driving around in downtown SLC today just to check up on how things were going on some projects. I didn't take any pics but here's some updates.............


1. Right on 400 west next to the gateway there is a temp. sign that reads somthing like "Lane closers starting Jan 8th to May 2007" Looks to me that the trax expanison from the delta center to the hub is about to begin.

2. The Inn at temple sq is gone. I mean gone all the way to the ground. There's nothing left. Crews are now just moving dirt around to make the hole i'm guessing. Looks like there's some work going on with the parking lot to the south. But the parking lot still seems to be open.

3. At 222 south main the temp. stores there are still open for business. I thought that HP would be breaking ground this month for the new tower, But there's nothing going on there yet. so who knows.

4. the christmas lights are still up. LOL

That's about it, nothing much. Just a short drive. I bet it's going to be hell to drive to the gateway once those lanes are closed.
__________________
1. "Wells Fargo Building" 24-stories 422 FT 1998
2. "LDS Church Office Building" 28-stories 420 FT 1973
3. "111 South Main" 24-stories 387 FT 2016
4. "99 West" 30-stories 375 FT 2011
5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976
     
     
  #632  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 4:48 AM
CONative's Avatar
CONative CONative is offline
Mile High Guy
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 877
Quote:
Originally Posted by delts145 View Post
I totally agree with you, as far as Western Colorado and behind the Front Range, and we definately have some catching up to do on the skyline. But c'mon, even with a big wink lets be honest.

Pam Anderson/WAY Enhanced


These Photos/ WAY Enhanced



These Photos/ Exactly as they appear from there respective Urban locations.


Hey now...those pics of Denver aren't enhanced - Honestly. They are taken from the eastern side of the city - where you can see the peaks much more. Keep in mind that the peaks above the city are over 14,000 feet high, and elevation at the top of the Denver skyscrapers is about 6000 feet, so that's 8000 feet above the city that the peak rises -- and you can enjoy the best views from the east side -- getting more of a full 60 mile perspective from Pikes Peak to the south all the way to the mountains behind Ft. Collins. I can post a bunch more that I have found -- and they all can't be enhanced.

P.S.
In SLC you can enjoy a great view from pretty much anywhere because of how quickly the peaks rise above the valley. In Denver - certain views from the city at certain angles will look as if the are peaks below the skyscrapers - others on the eastside will show the trueness of how much higher they are - and the views are breathtaking to see so many 14,000 peaks along such a long stretch. In Denver -- as you get closer to the mountains, you lose the view of our 14,000 peaks because the foothills block the view. To get the best views -- it's all about where you are. In SLC, you don't really have that issue.

P.S.S.
On another SLC topic -- Can anyone tell me how many people now live in Daybreak? Anything new with it? Even though it's not in the city like Stapleton is in Denver -- it is designed with the same "new urbanism" concept and they used Stapleton as one their models. I'd like to know of any updates.
__________________
-D-

Last edited by CONative; Jan 3, 2007 at 5:23 AM.
     
     
  #633  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 5:33 AM
terryaki's Avatar
terryaki terryaki is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago (Edgewater)
Posts: 1,701
^ I certainly hope this is the last post on this thread about the SLC/Denver mountain nonsense.

Quote:
On another SLC topic -- Can anyone tell me how many people now live in Daybreak? Anything new with it? Even though it's not in the city like Stapleton is in Denver -- it is designed with the same "new urbanism" concept and used Stapleton as one of their models. I'd like to know of any updates.
I think I'll drive by the area in the next few days to take pictures, but as far as I know, they're building and people are moving in. The area looks VERY suburban unfortunately and the development has a looong way to go before we see the planned density in place.
     
     
  #634  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 5:36 AM
CONative's Avatar
CONative CONative is offline
Mile High Guy
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 877
Really? I thought it was supposed to be a new-urban development? Did they revise the plan? Are all the homes beige boxes? Do they have condos, townhomes, town center(s) yet?
__________________
-D-
     
     
  #635  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 5:39 AM
terryaki's Avatar
terryaki terryaki is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago (Edgewater)
Posts: 1,701
well, judge for yourself: These are photos I found of the area, http://www.flickr.com/photos/skowronek/sets/1353625/ & http://www.flickr.com/photos/lifeinutah/sets/72057594100813430/

To be fair though, it is still a work in progress, and an early work at that. I'm hoping I'm just expecting too much too fast.

Last edited by terryaki; Jan 3, 2007 at 5:44 AM.
     
     
  #636  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 7:18 AM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584

I certainly hope you are not involved in any chamber promotions in the area


Colorado Native, To be sure there is a lot of growing yet to come, since this is going to be a huge planned community. However, they are off to a good start and a lot has been accomplished at this early date. The project has been so popular, it has been difficult for the different builders to keep up with the demand.

Kennecott has committed to catching 100 percent of the rainwater that falls, even up to a 100-year storm. The theory is to catch the water as close to where it falls as possible and infiltrate it into the ground, eliminating a large amount of the underground piping and stormwater infrastructure that would typically be used in a new development.


As far as plantings go, Kennecott is conscious of being water wise, trying to incorporate as many native and indigenous plants as possible. Mainly native wildflowers and native grasses have been chosen, which are primarily watered with the secondary water irrigation system.


There are areas that have attached housing around a common space. Six or seven homes are clustered on a single space and the homeowners association maintains it.



There are corridors of trail networks outside the town areas. Along the trails there will be multiple experiences, parks, kiosks, plantings and demonstration gardens.


ABOVE & BELOW: The playground designs and equipment will be everything from traditional to modern Kompan-style equipment, with benches from Landscape Forms and Country Casual for park site amenities.



There is a community garden where people can rent a space and grow vegetables sponsored and maintained by the homeowners association. Spaces range from large to small, and create another gathering place in the community where people can rub elbows and get to know their neighbors. Ultimately, all the neighborliness makes the neighborhood safer.

“It was very rewarding,” said Jeff Haws, “to go to school to learn these concepts and then be able to come out and make it work.”

On this site 85 acres is devoted to the lake, a major amenity. The area around the lake brings it to 165 acres total.

The first phase, 24 acres, will be open end of summer.

A BEBO bridge is being laid in place as the connection to the planned island in the center of the lake.

Only non-motorized boats will be allowed on Oquirrh Lake, however people can reserve rowboats, kayaks or sunfish. There will also be a splash pad intended for the little ones as well as a wading pool 18 inches deep with two fountains running continuously. Other water amenities are planned as well.



The lake has a rubber liner with approximately two to two-and-one-half feet of soil on top of the liner. They had a number of wildlife consultants advise them on habitat requirements. Fish habitats will be constructed on the bottom, for spawning and reproduction. Eventually 220,000 fish will have homes in the lake.


ABOVE & BELOW: A number of wetland shelves will be incorporated into the lake. The perimeter will be planted with an 80 percent wildflower and native grass mix. Other areas, such as turf, will be separated to prevent fertilizer run off. Once the lake wetlands have been established, they will be used as part of the stormwater management system.



As far as shopping is concerned, the retail spaces are not leased yet. They are still in planning stages, to be sure that they have the right grocery anchor with a large office tenant. Much of the retail will be support services for residents and workers in the offices



Kennecott has dug wells 300 feet deep to provide ground-source heating and cooling for the new elementary school and community center. Heating and cooling will be the same for the office and retail buildings. Once the systems are in place, it is essentially free energy.


The home styles and lot sizes are a definite nod to what was popular during the turn of the past century. There are many interesting color palate's to choose from if you want to venture beyond the typical beige, "very much like what you would see in the older neighborhoods."

p.s CoNative, I very much enjoy our good-natured debate. Please continue to contribute to this Wasatch thread. I will try to be more careful about the lurkers who get their little tidy-whitey's all twisted.

Last edited by delts145; Jan 3, 2007 at 8:36 AM.
     
     
  #637  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 8:43 AM
delts145's Avatar
delts145 delts145 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
Posts: 20,584
This is such a beautiful old building,"one of my favorites." I hope a first-class act like O.C.Tanner does occupy the site.



From jewels of sky to earthly gems?

Tanner Co. is one of several interested in planetarium site

By Joe Bauman
Deseret Morning News
Hansen Planetarium once hosted views of the jewels of the night sky. Soon its now-vacant building could become a showplace for earthly gems — but nobody is verifying that it actually will.
O.C. Tanner Co., the large jewelry store in Eagle Gate Tower, has expressed an interest in the historic building, confirmed John P. Spencer, property manager for Salt Lake City, which owns the former planetarium. But so have several other entities, he said.
The handsome structure at 15 S. State was designed as the Salt Lake City Public Library back in 1904. In 1968 it became the home for what was then Hansen Planetarium. Cited for its architectural and engineering features, the building was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1979.
The planetarium moved to The Gateway in 2003 and donned a new name — the Sheila M. Clark Planetarium. Since then, the old library-planetarium building on State Street has been vacant.
"It's not in the best interest of the city or the building itself" for the structure to remain empty, said Spencer.
Many downtown stores are shifting location because of the pending demolition of the ZCMI Center and the construction of the City Creek Center. Although the Eagle Gate building, where the O.C. Tanner store is located, won't be demolished as part of the project, some firms there are concerned about the noise and dust of nearby construction.
With its own parking spaces and a prime location, the former library is getting attention from businesses that might relocate.
Asked if it was true that the Tanner Co. was interested in the library building, Spencer said several groups had toured the facility, and "O.C. Tanner's one" of them.
O.C. Tanner, which opened its first store in Salt Lake City in 1976, moved into the location at 20 E. South Temple in 2005. It spent about $1 million renovating the site. It has another outlet in Park City.
"We're going to put out an RFP on the building, a request for proposal" about future use of the planetarium's former home, Spencer said. The request may be issued within 60 days.
The proposal could include an option to purchase the structure. "But that hasn't been determined by the administration. It's an administrative call," he added.
Contacted about the possibility that O.C. Tanner Co. might move to the planetarium, Curtis Bennett, vice president of retail operations for the firm, said, "Well, I'm not in a position now to make any kind of statement on that."


-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Last edited by delts145; Jan 3, 2007 at 5:41 PM.
     
     
  #638  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 9:29 AM
jmonkey's Avatar
jmonkey jmonkey is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 1,034
OC Tanner in the old planetarium would be a very good fit. I wonder how much they would spend on a renovation there. Could anyone refresh my mind as to how the building is laid out??? Are there major structural changes or additions in the back of the building where the old theater was??

Now if only OC Tanner would do some work on it's headquarters on State Street, north of 2100 South. That place is truly horrible.
     
     
  #639  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 9:50 AM
jmonkey's Avatar
jmonkey jmonkey is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 1,034
[EDIT:: Double Post]

Last edited by jmonkey; Jan 3, 2007 at 10:06 AM.
     
     
  #640  
Old Posted Jan 3, 2007, 12:58 PM
SLC Projects's Avatar
SLC Projects SLC Projects is offline
Bring out the cranes...
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 6,108
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmonkey View Post
Now if only OC Tanner would do some work on it's headquarters on State Street, north of 2100 South. That place is truly horrible.

That place is horrible. They should just move their headquarters downtown by building a new tower.
__________________
1. "Wells Fargo Building" 24-stories 422 FT 1998
2. "LDS Church Office Building" 28-stories 420 FT 1973
3. "111 South Main" 24-stories 387 FT 2016
4. "99 West" 30-stories 375 FT 2011
5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Closed Thread

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > City Compilations
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:54 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.