PHILADELPHIA-CAMDEN-WILMINGTON-ATLANTIC CITY-READING | Metro Development Thread

[UrbanRevival]

Originally Posted by EastSideHBG

I don't view this as a one for one comparison, though. Those areas have always been more expensive, they typically have more high paying jobs...there is a sudden culture shift taking place here in an area that is not known or prepared for it.

It was always an inevitability, in my mind. The Philly area has long been and continues to be undervalued. It's just catching up with other large metros. It's a shift, for sure, but one I generally see as much more positive than negative because it signals healthy investment. And it's not close to being at "overheated" levels, because it's based on slower, sustainable growth.

And the money is obviously coming from somewhere. Even locals continue to underestimate just how "high wage" and white-collar the Philly area is now. On a percentage basis, "MBSA" jobs (management, business, science and arts) surpass even the NYC area these days.

[Aether]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Lg&oe=66A42B39

Not the best link but this was sent to me by an old family friend in the area. Quite the project though

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by Aether

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Lg&oe=66A42B39

Not the best link but this was sent to me by an old family friend in the area. Quite the project though

Since it wasn't mentioned, this is the plan for the Prudential building in Horsham.

[summersm343]

Wow… what an absolutely horridly awful suburban plan. So bad.

I thought they were going to extend and build off of the Upper Dublin Promenade?

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Wow… what an absolutely horridly awful suburban plan. So bad.

I thought they were going to extend and build off of the Upper Dublin Promenade?

What's so bad about it? It's taking a stand alone obsolete office building on a massive amount of acreage to turn it into a mixed use neighborhood. Shouldn't we be advocating for that?

[Justin7]

^ Not like this. It's like they've learned nothing from the past 60 years.

[PHLtoNYC]

Good to see another solid hotel option in Delaware County. Though I thought the exterior would look a bit better.

First look: Greater Philadelphia's first AC-branded Marriott hotel readies to open at Ellis Preserve in Newtown Square (PHOTOS)

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...Pos=2#cxrecs_s

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Good to see another solid hotel option in Delaware County. Though I thought the exterior would look a bit better.

First look: Greater Philadelphia's first AC-branded Marriott hotel readies to open at Ellis Preserve in Newtown Square (PHOTOS)

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...Pos=2#cxrecs_s

I drove through Ellis Preserve for the first time last weekend. It's better than I expected TBH. The little main street area where all the restaurants are feels somewhat compelling. I'm not sure if I noticed this hotel but there were a number of mixed use and apartment buildings sort of right there then it stepped down to townhomes. If it were on a larger scale, I could see how it would feel like a cohesive town.

I think the biggest miss of the whole thing is that there isn't a connection to that massive Toll development called Licester which I think has something along the lines of 1,000 homes and is literally the next traffic signal up on 252. It would be nice if you could get between these two developments without having to go out onto the main road.

Also, I had never driven through Licester before. It's god awful.

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

I drove through Ellis Preserve for the first time last weekend. It's better than I expected TBH. The little main street area where all the restaurants are feels somewhat compelling. I'm not sure if I noticed this hotel but there were a number of mixed use and apartment buildings sort of right there then it stepped down to townhomes. If it were on a larger scale, I could see how it would feel like a cohesive town.

I think the biggest miss of the whole thing is that there isn't a connection to that massive Toll development called Licester which I think has something along the lines of 1,000 homes and is literally the next traffic signal up on 252. It would be nice if you could get between these two developments without having to go out onto the main road.

Also, I had never driven through Licester before. It's god awful.

Curious, what is god awful about it?

[EastSideHBG]

Langhorne Carpet Co. building could become 150 luxury apartments in Penndel
https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/ne...y/74632401007/

[PHLtoNYC]

More details for BET Investments plans for the former Prudential site in Upper Dublin.
A shame BET won't integrate this project into the existing promenade. Extending Market Street across Dryden Road would make for a sizeable urban node.
Google maps view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...!1e1?entry=ttu


BET Investments plans ‘legacy’ mixed-use development at Upper Dublin Prudential property
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...in-montco.html

BET Investments is planning to develop 600 apartments, 160 stacked townhomes, 150 senior and assisted living units, a 100-room hotel, 106,000 square feet of shops and restaurants, 100,000 square feet of medical or office space, a police substation and connected trails with outdoor exercise stations.

He’s aiming for construction on apartments to begin at the end of 2025. While the entire project could take eight to 10 years to complete, Markman said the majority of it could be built within five years.

[EastSideHBG]

Delco boroughs seek main street designation to uplift businesses along Chester Pike

Dedicated funding and development opportunities from a main street designation would bring new life to the six boroughs, making them a destination along a busy thoroughfare.
https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-c...on-businesses/

[DIESELPOLO]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

More details for BET Investments plans for the former Prudential site in Upper Dublin.
A shame BET won't integrate this project into the existing promenade. Extending Market Street across Dryden Road would make for a sizeable urban node.
Google maps view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...!1e1?entry=ttu


BET Investments plans ‘legacy’ mixed-use development at Upper Dublin Prudential property
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...in-montco.html

BET Investments is planning to develop 600 apartments, 160 stacked townhomes, 150 senior and assisted living units, a 100-room hotel, 106,000 square feet of shops and restaurants, 100,000 square feet of medical or office space, a police substation and connected trails with outdoor exercise stations.

He’s aiming for construction on apartments to begin at the end of 2025. While the entire project could take eight to 10 years to complete, Markman said the majority of it could be built within five years.

Will never learn how to post pictures here, but the site plan is in this article: https://glensidelocal.com/plans-for-...oogle_vignette

[Jawnadelphia]

Lots of developments going on in Newark, DE - most related to UD / residential housing. Some public - big library renovations.

Summary here: https://www.delawareonline.com/story...4/74539203007/

The Grove - really transformed that old shopping center - College Square:
https://www.thegrovenewark.com/

https://www.instagram.com/thegrovenewark/

Lang Development in Newark's leading developer, more info on their IG page: https://www.instagram.com/liveatlang/

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by DIESELPOLO

Will never learn how to post pictures here, but the site plan is in this article: https://glensidelocal.com/plans-for-...oogle_vignette

A little assist

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by El Duderino

A little assist

^ On the upper right half, just outside of the picture is "Market Street" at the Promenade at Upper Dublin. I know there is an existing building (Prudential building), but a shame that BET doesn't have the foresight to integrate these two developments into a larger unit. Or least have a main road near the Prudential building that leads to a dense mixed-use setup.

This plan looks like a town center proposal from 2000, might as well just build 300 single family homes.

[DIESELPOLO]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

^ On the upper right half, just outside of the picture is "Market Street" at the Promenade at Upper Dublin. I know there is an existing building (Prudential building), but a shame that BET doesn't have the foresight to integrate these two developments into a larger unit. Or least have a main road near the Prudential building that leads to a dense mixed-use setup.

This plan looks like a town center proposal from 2000, might as well just build 300 single family homes.

I wonder if there is still time and space to advocate for this development to be better. Like a YIMBY but for better urban design. And I agree, I want to see the connectivity of this site to the adjacent promenade. I wanna see sidewalks, I wanna see shade for people, I want benches, etc.

[EastSideHBG]

A new Sixers arena in Delaware? Gov. John Carney says 'we're all in'
https://sports.yahoo.com/sixers-aren...165302301.html

[DeltaNerd]

Originally Posted by EastSideHBG

A new Sixers arena in Delaware? Gov. John Carney says 'we're all in'
https://sports.yahoo.com/sixers-aren...165302301.html

For 1 billion or 2 billion in subsidies I can see it happening. I assume that's what he means with "all-in"

[summersm343]

Sixers would be dumb as shit to move to Delaware. They would lose the majority of their fan base for game days and would devalue the team. I think Harris wants to build this new arena to INCREASE the value of the team and then sell them.

I could see Camden, but odds are they stay in Philly. If they don’t build at Market East, they should get together with Brandywine, the City and Drexel to cap over a portion of the Powelton Yards by 30th Street/Cira Centre, build an arena, a hotel, an apartment building or two and call it a day.