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Old Posted Oct 10, 2009, 11:28 PM
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Actually neither of those is our tower, these are. Though the second rendering is very close.





You must subtract 311' 2" from the elevations shown on the prints. Zero elevation for the Port Authority is 300 feet below mean high tide at Battery Park Point. Thus placing the finished lobby floor 11' 2" above mean high tide. Not where I would want to be in a hurricane.

Really cool and great imformation! Thanks man, it's really helpful.

So the offices stop at 88 but 89 and 90 still don't have mechanical vents on them (those are floors 91 to 93), I thought they would if they were broadcast floors? Or do people actually work on broadcast floors? (sorry for the silly question)
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2009, 11:49 PM
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Really cool and great imformation! Thanks man, it's really helpful.

So the offices stop at 88 but 89 and 90 still don't have mechanical vents on them (those are floors 91 to 93), I thought they would if they were broadcast floors? Or do people actually work on broadcast floors? (sorry for the silly question)
Yes, they can. I assume the new WTC is no different from the others. One of the victims of 9/11 was a broadcast worker on the 110th floor of Tower 1.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 2:03 AM
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 1:48 PM
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God up she is going,im taking a peek every couple
of weeks into this thread so each time I see progress.

well done N.Y
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 3:59 PM
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I was just sitting here looking at the pic I posted and it dawned on me, I goofed.

It's 13' 4" floor to floor, not 13' 1". I was going from memory and had a blond moment.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 7:21 PM
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A question...

This is a question for the pros here...

What can be the maximum height of the steel without concrete cover?
(in other words, will they continue to rise the core steel, or does they need first to cover the existing steel with concrete?)

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As always, please forgive me for my poor English.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 7:55 PM
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Your english is fine. But no one here knows the definite answer to that question yet.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 11:40 PM
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Hi Guys, first time poster long time reader. Just wanted to share some of the pics I took on 10/10.




























     
     
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2009, 11:47 PM
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Great photos, thanks.


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Old Posted Oct 12, 2009, 5:24 PM
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One more to throw into the mix from 10-10:

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This is the probably the first page in my opinion where you can really see this project shaping up and identifying elements in the design that are clear in the renderings. It's really exciting to see all the steel rise for this.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 12:37 AM
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One more to throw into the mix from 10-10:

Key to the site is the extension of Fulton Street, connecting Freedom Tower with the rest of the financial district. (seen just past Tower 2 in the renderingg)

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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 2:54 AM
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Hey photos from this afternoon. Sorry for any blurriness, I really need a new camera.

















So the E and the R/W aren't REALLY arranged like that, but this finally explains for me how all the trains were finally going to be connected.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 12:04 PM
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Construction Pace...

This is a sincere question, please don't shoot me

Usually I don't like all the posts about "slow progress"...

I think that a lot of people don't understand that the construction of the base is the most complicated part in a construction of a skyscraper, and therefore it is normal that it takes a lot of time (And after that it should rise much faster)

However, I read that 200-300 Workers are working on the same time at 4WTC, I guess that it is the same for 1WTC.

If so, I have to ask, isn't installation of one perimeter column and several smaller columns for a day is somehow very little for 300 workers?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 12:59 PM
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I have to ask, isn't installation of one perimeter column and several smaller columns for a day is somehow very little for 300 workers?
The tower is under construction. It will be built. I wouldn't worry too much about how long it takes to put up perimeter columns. Because if you can't stand the pace, you might not want to check the progress here for another 3 or 4 years. Rest assured though, that when the actual floors start rising, they'll rise fast enough.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 1:56 PM
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Those 300 workers are not all iron workers.

There are iron workers doing steel and rebar, concretors, crane operators, welders, laborers, superintendents, etc...
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In the picture posted earlier, does anyone know what accounts for the protrusions in this column?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 4:30 PM
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This is a sincere question, please don't shoot me

Usually I don't like all the posts about "slow progress"...

I think that a lot of people don't understand that the construction of the base is the most complicated part in a construction of a skyscraper, and therefore it is normal that it takes a lot of time (And after that it should rise much faster)

However, I read that 200-300 Workers are working on the same time at 4WTC, I guess that it is the same for 1WTC.

If so, I have to ask, isn't installation of one perimeter column and several smaller columns for a day is somehow very little for 300 workers?
Very few of the people working are on the exterior. There is still an incredible amount of "interior" work going on, including electrical and plumbing. Also, the scale of this is ridiculous. It's nearly impossible to convey in pictures. There are regularly 20-30 guys just working on rebar in the core. It looks like a beehive. See if you can count all the people in this photo:

Image credit: Joe Woolhead
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http://www.wtc.com/utils/Download.aspx?file=/uploads/images/hi-res/14_40_T1-July-2009.JPG


And that's just from 3 months ago. The whole building will be 200 feet in the air in just a few weeks.

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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 6:11 PM
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RoldanTTLB, did you take that photo? Any chance of having a present day photo from that location? If you do, i'll ship you a beer!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2009, 7:35 PM
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It's from Joe Woolhead, Silverstein's photographer.
     
     
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