noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

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I'm surprised the little house on Hancock and the two larger houses facing Broadway have survived since they're practically surounded by commercial real estate.


You can barely see the homes facing Broadway.




The best view is from Hancock St.



They look like rental properties.

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[ethereal_reality]

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Take a look at this slide with the car carrier passing the Palladium.



eBay

The seller says it was taken in 1951. Do you think that's right judging by cars?


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[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks for the follow-up on the Ye Bull Pen sign snapshot, Godzilla.

J. H. Graham explains how the rooftop sign on Hope St. ended up on top of the Hula Hut at 8204 Beverly Blvd.


J. H. Graham






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[riichkay]

This is an Alfred Eisenstaedt photo for the May 3 1937 issue of Life Magazine.....


....the women are standing on the southeast corner of Hollywood and Cahuenga....




.....the woman in the middle is possibly actress Mary Wickes....

[Martin Pal]

It does look like Mary Wickes. The one on the right looks familiar, too, though I don't have a name.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Take a look at this slide with the car carrier passing the Palladium.

eBay
The seller says it was taken in 1951. Do you think that's right judging by cars?
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If there's a definitive database of acts that played the Palladium, I can't locate it, but I did find notes that Ray Anthony played there in November of 1950 and
November of 1953 as well. Ray Anthony has an album titled Live at the Palladium that was recorded November 10, 1950. NBC also recorded Ray Anthony and
His Orchestra playing live for their All Star Parade of Bands series, November 23, 1953.

I don't know about the cars!

[HossC]

The white car with the black roof looks like a 1951 Chevy Bel Air.

[ProphetM]

Originally Posted by HossC

The white car with the black roof looks like a 1951 Chevy Bel Air.

Then I guess this must be on or about November 10, 1950. The car carrier has a Chevy logo on it and the other cars also appear to be 1951 Chevys.

[ethereal_reality]

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I happened upon this unique item on eBay earlier today.


Seller's description:..Antique, Dept. of Water & Power. Southern California. Embossed Red Globe.


eBay

What would have this been used for? Was it intended for a lantern.



There is also a Soo-Line (RR) Red Globe that is nearly three times the price, HERE

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[Engineeral]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I happened upon this unique item on eBay earlier today.


Seller's description:..Antique, Dept. of Water & Power. Southern California. Embossed Red Globe.


eBay


What would have this been used for? Was it intended for a lantern.



There is also a Soo-Line (RR) Red Globe that is nearly three times the price, HERE

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A subsidiary of the Canadian National Railway that still operates in Minnesota is the Duluth Winnipeg and Pacific Railway.

[ethereal_reality]

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Thanks for the clarification, Engineeral.



I bet this book is a real hoot. (published in 1959)


Currently on eBay



eBay

"Buggsy" ..



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[ethereal_reality]

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This cabinet card is also on eBay



eBay


Did someone notable live on the corner of Figueroa and Jefferson Streets?

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[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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This cabinet card is also on eBay


eBay


Did someone notable live on the corner of Figueroa and Jefferson Streets?

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Here is a link to the USC Digital Library's copy of the ebay photo, dated c. 1885.


Below is a view of the same house, dated 1886:



UC116565 @ USC Digital Library

USC says:

"Photograph of the residence of John Graff (an early Los Angeles pioneer) on the corner of Jefferson Boulevard and Figueroa Street, 1886. Later the home of
Ana B. Packman. This two-story adobe known as "Casa Figueroa" may have been built by Ramon Figueroa in the early 1850s. Gable roofs and dormer windows
have altered the original architecture. A wooden rail runs around the perimeter of the covered porch upon which sit four chairs. View is across the lawn through
palms and other plants. Roses cover most of the porch roof."



I think this is the same place. Fires in 1926 and 1945 (per LADBS records) could account for the house's changed appearance, although the right-hand dormer
seems unaltered:



00078979 @ LA Public Library

Here's what LAPL says about the house and photo:

"Exterior view of the Casa Figueroa adobe on Jefferson Boulevard, at the corner of Figueroa Street, which stood among pepper and palm trees. In this photo,
Mrs. Ana Begue de Packman stands at the doorway holding a fan in her right hand, and her skirt with her left. Verso on photograph states that the building
was used as a museum by the Southern California Historical Society at this time. Photograph dated: April 1936."

"The Figueroa Adobe, located at 3404 S. Figueroa St, was built in 1846 by Ramon Figueroa - brother of the 1833 Mexican Governor of California, Jose Figueroa.
In 1886 it became the home of John Graff; in 1890 it was taken on as a remodeling project by architect Sumner P. Hunt; and years later, C. C. Thenes became
the owner of the home. Eventually, the house was occupied by a great-granddaughter of a Spanish soldier who accompanied Governor Felipe de Neve on the
march from San Gabriel Mission to found Los Angeles in 1781."


Here's a similar photo dated 1938:



P.15678 @ Autry Museum


LATE EDIT: For more on Casa Figueroa and Ana Begue de Packman, go HERE.

LATE, LATE EDIT: Information about the Figueroas mentioned in the above photo captions is in Odinthor's post HERE.

[ethereal_reality]

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Such a fantastic post, Flyingwedge. Thank you so much.


Per the link you provided.

Here is the adobe layout in 1909.


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And in 1955.


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A closer look. (1955)


lavenueproject

Auto sales and a service station.


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[ethereal_reality]

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I've checked past posts and I am almost certain we haven't see the Huber residence.



Recently found on eBay.




A super-duper look.



It's a joy to see so many children (and a dog!) in a stereo view.


I need some help with what is written on the back. Is the letter preceding Huber. .squints eyes . .an R? . .a B? . . or D.L.?




The only thing missing is the street address.


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[odinthor]

We have had several posts over the years on the interesting early Angeleno Conrad Hafen and the two Hafen Houses. Newmark gives us a quick summary on Mr. Hafen: “Conrad Hafen, a German-Swiss, reached Los Angeles in December, 1868, driving a six-horse team and battered wagon with which he had braved the privations of Death Valley; and soon he rented a little vineyard, two years later buying for the same purpose considerable acreage on what is now Central Avenue. Rewarded for his husbandry with some affluence, Hafen built both the old Hafen House and the new on South Hill Street, once a favorite resort for German arrivals. He retired in 1905” (end of Chapter 25 in his Sixty Years in Southern California). He died in 1910, and “is survived by one son and two daughters, Louis Hafen, Mrs. Eliza Price and Mrs. Jacob Dieterich, all of Los Angeles, together with eleven grandchildren and four great-grandchildren” (L.A. Herald, November 1, 1910).

There is also, at one remove, a noirish shadow in this. Son-in-law Jacob Dieterich, (“born 1867, Stuttgart, Württemberg, Germany. […] 1887, came to America and directly to Los Angeles, where a year was spent as a florist and landscape gardener. This was followed by being in charge of the O.W. Childs firm for a year. In 1892, he opened his [horticultural shop at] 1142–1146 Wall St. 1893, residing at 422 E. 12th St.” (book Roll-Call, by B.C. Dickerson, 2024, p. 125). The residence was just around the corner from the shop. In 1897, he had something of an adventure at the shop. One John McManus, at 1145 San Julian, just behind Dieterich’s shop, who “has engaged somewhat in the occupation of grubbing out trees. He removed the big pepper trees at Eighth and Spring streeets, where the new armory building is being erected” (from edited-out portion of article below), was trying to split some logs into kindling, using “giant powder” (which I take it is dynamite). I excerpt from an article:


LA Times, 9/11/1897

But, back to focusing on Dieterich. On December 5, 1926, his affairs came to a violent end. We take up the story following the article’s introductory paragraphs:


LA Times, 12/7/1926

I cannot find that the guilty parties were ever apprehended.

[odinthor]

Strange to say, the J. Huber family, from the post of e_r, two above, and Mr. Dieterich, of my post above, are connected via O.W. Childs (he of the Opera House and Horticulture), Dieterich having been employed by Childs, and the Hubers coming into it via the marriage of O.W. Childs to Emeline Huber, the daughter of Joseph Huber Sr., and sister of he who is presumably the J. Huber of the residence in the stereograph. The somewhat elaborate look of the garden is doubtless owing to the convenience of having a successful horticulturist such as Mr. Childs as one's relative. In 1878, Joseph Jr. was at 220 Main; but it's hard to tell the date of the photo, so the location could be at another address at which the Hubers lived.

Just for a little history: Joseph Sr. had come from Kentucky to Los Angeles in 1855, followed by his family in 1859; they then occupied "the Foster property running from Alameda Street to the river, in a section between Second and Sixth streets" (Newmark, Sixty Years).

[nealberke]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I happened upon this unique item on eBay earlier today.


Seller's description:..Antique, Dept. of Water & Power. Southern California. Embossed Red Globe.


eBay

What would have this been used for? Was it intended for a lantern.



There is also a Soo-Line (RR) Red Globe that is nearly three times the price, HERE

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Yes, this is part of a kerosene lantern used by LADWP likely for warning of hazards rather than for work lighting. They hung red lanterns like this on wooden barricades to warn motorists of hazards before flashing battery lights were invented. (Check out Steve's Vintage Barracade Collection, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1yYf78R6S0) Lanterns were more stable than the old smudge pots that were used up to the 1960's thus less likely to roll off the road and create problems Here's a red lantern for sale on ebay. You can see the various parts and how they fit together: https://www.ebay.com/itm/40502409938...90.c101224.m-1

[AlvaroLegido]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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I've checked past posts and I am almost certain we haven't see the Huber residence.



Recently found on eBay.

A super-duper look.

What is the purpose of a stereo view photograph ? I don't see it.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

What is the purpose of a stereo view photograph ? I don't see it.

You have to view them in a stereoscope:

A stereoscope is a device for viewing a stereoscopic pair of separate images, depicting left-eye and right-eye views of the same scene, as a single three-dimensional image.