DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 307

TakeFive · #**6121** Posted **Oct 29, 2015, 8:42 PM**

Denver/metro and Gaylord going global

Gaylord Rockies hotel construction to begin by year's end
Oct 29, 2015 by Ed Sealover Denver Business Journal

Quote:

An international consortium of eight banks will loan the developer of the Gaylord Rockies Resort and Convention Center $500 million, allowing construction of the 1,500-room hotel to begin by the end of 2015 with a goal of opening around Thanksgiving 2018.

What about that lawsuit this has now been appealed to the Colorado Supreme Court?

Quote:

Ira Mitzner, president and CEO of Rida Development Corp., said Thursday that the money is coming regardless of the outcome of a lawsuit seeking to strip $81.4 million in state incentive funding from the project.

I had wondered if this thing would ever get built. I am so delighted that finally, finally Denver metro will have a resort hotel that can compete with the less exclusive places in Phoenix/Scottsdale. The newer 950 room JW Marriott Phoenix Desert Ridge Resort & Spa comes to mind. With respect to the The Westin Kierland Resort & Spa I've always found irony that the mixed-use destination which includes the ULI award winning Kierland Commons was designed by Design Workshop, Inc. (Denver, CO) and Communication Arts, Inc. (Boulder, CO).

To be only the fourth destination in the Gaylord family is awesome for the Denver/Aurora metro area. I know for a fact that the state of Arizona and Mesa have stood ready should Gaylord show any renewed interest in that site. Maybe Denver gained advantage partly by playing "hard to get."

I have to believe that Rida Development Corp., in looking at the downside risk concluded that worst case scenario was that they're 10 minutes from the 5th busiest airport in the United States. I would assume that is a nice floor to have.

TakeFive · #**6122** Posted **Oct 29, 2015, 8:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANSIT

Saw this in a thread for Atlanta. Thought it was interesting. They tend to build fairly tall. Don't really know much more.

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/comm...who-eyeing-two-more-51590?rt=title_alt_1

Nice find.

So you and me and Denver might get a Yoo or two. (Yikes, did I really just say that?)

Says it a 25 story and the SkyHouse apartment series started in Atlanta as well.

bcp · #**6123** Posted **Oct 29, 2015, 9:42 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by navyweaxguy

So more apartments that will get turned into condos later?

This doesn't happen very often,..or very quickly. There are long term finances in place and investors that want a nice steady return....after 20-30 years, sure...but I'd be surprised if we see a single substantial apt building from this boom convert before bunt goes bald....

bunt_q · #**6124** Posted **Oct 29, 2015, 10:11 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcp

before bunt goes bald....

Will. Never. Happen.

navyweaxguy · #**6125** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 4:16 PM**

I guess I get all the bald around here.

TakeFive · #**6126** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 5:58 PM**

It's Denver "Coloween" time?

Courtesy Coloween.com naturally

wong21fr · #**6127** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 6:25 PM**

Looks like 1st and Broadway is getting close to entering the next chapter of it's existence:

First Avenue Hotel Formerly Home to El Diablo and Sketch Goes Up for Auction

It's only taken 2 and a half years.

jama · #**6128** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 6:43 PM**

Long time lurker, first time poster. Came across a rendering of the Center for Performing Arts that includes two towers (about 40 stories) located on the site? Anybody else know what I'm talking about?

Have it saved on my computer but can't figure out how to post it here.

Thanks, here it is with an edit

PLANSIT · #**6129** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 6:59 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jama

Long time lurker, first time poster. Came across a rendering of the Center for Performing Arts that includes two towers (about 40 stories) located on the site? Anybody else know what I'm talking about?

Have it saved on my computer but can't figure out how to post it here.

To post photos, check out this guide:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=168165

comoneymaker · #**6130** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:07 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jama

Long time lurker, first time poster. Came across a rendering of the Center for Performing Arts that includes two towers (about 40 stories) located on the site? Anybody else know what I'm talking about?

Have it saved on my computer but can't figure out how to post it here.

Thanks, here it is with an edit

Umm No. And where on the web site? Those would likely be by far the best two towers Denver would get/have. Why does the Spire have red crap on top? Why has no one else heard of this? I am about to have a heart attack. Build now!

RyanD · #**6131** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jama

Long time lurker, first time poster. Came across a rendering of the Center for Performing Arts that includes two towers (about 40 stories) located on the site? Anybody else know what I'm talking about?

I've never seen this before! Looks like someone has eyes on tearing down / redeveloping the DCPA? Not sure how I feel about that.

Anyways... Here's what that site looks like currently:

DownhomeDenver · #**6132** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:13 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanD

I've never seen this before! Looks like someone has eyes on tearing down / redeveloping the DCPA? Not sure how I feel about that.

Anyways... Here's what that site looks like currently:

I do believe the long term goal is to completely rethink the DPAC and that could include tearing down the old canopy, etc.

comoneymaker · #**6133** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:16 PM**

http://artsandvenuesdenver.com/images/files/Public_Mtg_4_-_9_Sept_2015_final.pdf

Found some info here. 3 towers 400' to 476' . Great rendering farther down on PDF. OMG OMG OMG

DownhomeDenver · #**6134** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:23 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by comoneymaker

http://artsandvenuesdenver.com/images/files/Public_Mtg_4_-_9_Sept_2015_final.pdf

Found some info here. 3 towers 400' to 476' . Great rendering farther down on PDF. OMG OMG OMG

Yup, good find man!

comoneymaker · #**6135** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:25 PM**

I am not sure which I prefer between the 3 proposals. The Grid or The Stitch. Grid has 2 tall buildings while Stitch has 1 tall 1 medium but more architecture ... ( oh and 3rd hotel building is same in all 3 renderings)

bunt_q · #**6136** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:25 PM**

Ha, all those folks in the Spire who thought their view could never get blocked.

navyweaxguy · #**6137** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:25 PM**

Wow, looks like quite a bit of cash was spent putting that together.

DenverInfill · #**6138** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 8:56 PM**

I saw this presentation recently and I found it quite exciting. In fact, my Planning Studio that I'll be teaching in the Spring will involve the re-do of the DPAC as part of a larger urban design study for that stretch of Speer. I can't wait!

TakeFive · #**6139** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 10:41 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by comoneymaker

I am not sure which I prefer between the 3 proposals. The Grid or The Stitch. Grid has 2 tall buildings while Stitch has 1 tall 1 medium but more architecture ... ( oh and 3rd hotel building is same in all 3 renderings)

I've always been a wedgie fan soo...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverInfill

I saw this presentation recently and I found it quite exciting. In fact, my Planning Studio that I'll be teaching in the Spring will involve the re-do of the DPAC as part of a larger urban design study for that stretch of Speer. I can't wait!

That sounds like a really cool class coming up.

Reminded of their objectives and priorities I'm impressed and pleased with the emphasis on education. I also like the idea of providing more work/play type of space.

The Dirt · #**6140** Posted **Oct 30, 2015, 11:10 PM**

Hmm... my vote is for the grid.

EDIT: Hey, Ken, do you offer any free drop-in classes or something of the sort?