The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[GreaterMontréal]

MONTREAL - In September, Quebecor Media will deploy 40 interactive screens in as many shelters downtown, a jewel of technology that is sure to impress tourists and Montrealers.

No city worldwide has similar concept. A 84-inch screen (2.10 m) tall in a bus shelter where you can click on the weather, see down subway lines, read the news, and even watch the trailer for the latest film by Hollywood, it is possible.

"It reminds us of the identity of Montreal. It's more techno and it is changing the bus shelter in a 2.0 world. It's a new experience through innovation, "said the president of Quebecor Media, Robert Dépatie.

Presence is detected by a special camera to a meter away. Then he has to reach out and see a slider that moves at will to different options. And the best part: no need to touch the surface. With such facilities, it is no doubt that Montreal will the future city air.

http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/regional/archives/2013/06/20130604-135115.html


84'' screen . !!!

[1overcosc]

^ I'm liking it.

It's nice that Montreal is finally discarding its stuck-in-time-ness. Until about 10 years ago, and even now to an extent, Montreal really did feel like a city that got stuck in time in the 1970s.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

^ I'm liking it.

It's nice that Montreal is finally discarding its stuck-in-time-ness. Until about 10 years ago, and even now to an extent, Montreal really did feel like a city that got stuck in time in the 1970s.

The revival began with the construction of the entertainment district.(Quartier des spectacles)

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Kibb

*cough* less then a 1/3 *cough*

Promising 100% to everyone doesn't work though, then everyone will only propose Cadillacs!

[1overcosc]

The way I see it, promising 100% to Hamilton makes sense because the project is relatively cheap considering the size of the city. A $1B project in a city of 700k.

By contrast, Ottawa's "LRT" (essentially metro) system will cost $5.1B in a city of 900k.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

No city worldwide has similar concept.

It's a really cool plan and I'm sure Montreal won't be the last city in North America to mimic what's already been used in several European and Asian cities. I believe London started testing them out last March. Globally they've been in use since around 2011.

I'd love to see some of the screens on TTC shelters converted to touch screen but as a germaphobe I don't think I'd use it.

Posted on: https://pbs.twimg.com


Also it's a no brainier to get the private sector to pay for it for advertising rights.
Posterd on: www.duidea.ne

[Nouvellecosse]

Aren't they afraid of potential vandalism? There better be plenty of security cameras around...

[GreaterMontréal]

well, sorry, it was a 2013 project.

here's what they look like.


http://affaires.lapresse.ca/economie/tra...uarante-nouveaux-abribus-interactifs.php

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

MONTREAL - In September, Quebecor Media will deploy 40 interactive screens in as many shelters downtown, a jewel of technology that is sure to impress tourists and Montrealers.

No city worldwide has similar concept. A 84-inch screen (2.10 m) tall in a bus shelter where you can click on the weather, see down subway lines, read the news, and even watch the trailer for the latest film by Hollywood, it is possible.

"It reminds us of the identity of Montreal. It's more techno and it is changing the bus shelter in a 2.0 world. It's a new experience through innovation, "said the president of Quebecor Media, Robert Dépatie.

Presence is detected by a special camera to a meter away. Then he has to reach out and see a slider that moves at will to different options. And the best part: no need to touch the surface. With such facilities, it is no doubt that Montreal will the future city air.

http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/regional/archives/2013/06/20130604-135115.html


84'' screen . !!!

That's a 2 years old news. I don't remember seeing them around downtown? But I didn't really pay attention either.

Edit: Ok I didn't see you previous post

Edit 2: That's still an old article

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by le calmar

That's a 2 years old news. I don't remember seeing them around downtown? But I didn't really pay attention either.

j'ai cherché et les display sont bel et bien là, et même que sur le Plateau, c'était trop de pub à leur goût.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

well, sorry, it was a 2013 project.

Tsk tsk, come back when they look like this

posted on: http://api.ning.com
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[matt602]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

Say what?! So Ontario, with its gift of 100% funding, will be giving more money to Hamilton to complete the B line and a boatload of express buses, but will only be giving Ottawa 1/3 of what it needs to complete the Confederation line? I love the allocation processes in governments, and by love I mean confused to the point of Aneurysm.

In all honesty, there's a VERY small chance that the LRT portion will come to Hamilton in the next 15-20 years at this point, especially with the additional $300 million tacked on just now. Hamilton kinda screwed up it's LRT case over the last few years and is very unlikely to get it in the next round of funding. The province has been very vague and unspecific as to what they will actually be funding Hamilton for.

[SignalHillHiker]

GREAT article with lots of pictures. For some reason my phone won't let me copy link.

It's on medium.com and the title is The Mini-Villages of Montreal's Metro

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

GREAT article with lots of pictures. For some reason my phone won't let me copy link.

It's on medium.com and the title is The Mini-Villages of Montreal's Metro

https://twitter.com/transitapp/status/578222231848763392/photo/1
Montreal rail station walksheds’ population within 800m of stations. The sizes of the circles and the numbers inside them correspond to the population in 1,000 people (24 = 24,000). How does your station compare?

[Nouvellecosse]

I guess the illustration must have been made before the AMT Mascouche line was opened. It would have had some of the highest numbers of the AMT stations due to passing through Montreal Nord.

[J.OT13]

Adding fuel to the old saying "le Québec yé 10 ans en arrière", the STO has purchased ten 1992 "Classics" from Calgary. So while Ottawa went fully accessible what, 5 years ago, Gatineau continues to buy high floor vehicles.

Publié le 18 mars 2015 à 09h37 | Mis à jour à 09h37

La STO met la main sur 10 vieux autobus

Des usagers de la Société de transport de l'Outaouais (STO) rouleront bientôt à bord d'autobus usagés achetés à Calgary Transit, une acquisition ayant engendré des dépenses de 293000$ qui s'avèrent toutefois une «économie nette», assure l'organisation.


Dix autobus Classic - un modèle qui ne se fabrique plus aujourd'hui - ont été achetés pour la somme de 50000$ à Calgary Transit l'automne dernier. «Tout ce qui vient avec, c'est-à-dire les dépenses du coût d'achat, le transport, la main-d'oeuvre et les pièces, ça totalise 293000$, mais nous, si on avait dû investir pour refaire la structure et changer les pièces, ça nous aurait coûté 510000$, alors ça veut dire qu'au total, il y a 217000$ d'économie nette», indique la porte-parole de la STO, Céline Gauthier.

L'achat de ces autobus en provenance de Calgary, qui datent de 1991 et 1992, représentait donc le «meilleur investissement» que pouvait faire la STO, assure la directrice générale, Line Thiffeault. La STO possède encore une soixantaine d'autobus Classic sur une flotte totale de quelque 300 véhicules.

«On a des Classic qui étaient rendus pas mal au bout de leur durée de vie, explique-t-elle. On avait des investissements majeurs à faire sur ces autobus-là pour faire une réfection des structures pour être capable de les supporter pendant les trois ou quatre prochaines années où on en avait encore besoin. [...] Ce sont des investissements qui demandent beaucoup de temps de travail de nos employés et beaucoup d'argent également.»


Le premier autobus obtenu auprès de Calgary Transit dans le cadre d'un contrat conclu de gré à gré doit commencer à rouler sur le réseau de la STO cette semaine. «Ils vont remplacer [des Classic] de la flotte et on va remiser les autres en gardant certaines pièces, explique Céline Gauthier. Ce sont des autobus qu'on met surtout sur des courts trajets.»

Les hybrides en retard

La STO doit par ailleurs composer avec un retard dans la livraison de neuf nouveaux autobus articulés hybrides. «Il y a un retard de six mois à un an dans notre prochaine commande, confirme Line Thiffeault. Ça devait être en 2015, et ça va arriver en 2016.»

Ce retard est lié à l'attente d'autorisations en provenance de Québec, selon la dg de la STO. Cet achat de neuf autobus articulés hybrides se fait dans le cadre d'un achat regroupé avec le Réseau de transport de la capitale, la société de transport en commun de Québec. L'acquisition de vieux autobus Classic aidera donc la STO à maintenir sa flotte en attendant leur arrivée.

http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/actualit...13b_ville-de-gatineau_86608_section_POS2

Although there is something to be said about keeping old, reliable equipment until the bitter end, considering new buses don't seem to have more than 10 years of potential service, there is no reason to buy "new" used buses in this day and age. This is totally unacceptable.

[caltrane74]

Streetcar 4406 has arrived in Toronto!!!

So we have 7 in total, 2 in testing, 1 going back to be rebuilt, and 4 in service.

[VIce]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Adding fuel to the old saying "le Québec yé 10 ans en arrière", the STO has purchased ten 1992 "Classics" from Calgary. So while Ottawa went fully accessible what, 5 years ago, Gatineau continues to buy high floor vehicles.

Although there is something to be said about keeping old, reliable equipment until the bitter end, considering new buses don't seem to have more than 10 years of potential service, there is no reason to buy "new" used buses in this day and age. This is totally unacceptable.

As far as I know, Calgary spent quite a bit to retire all those buses (more than just the 10 that STO purchased) early and ensure an all-accessible fleet.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Adding fuel to the old saying "le Québec yé 10 ans en arrière", the STO has purchased ten 1992 "Classics" from Calgary. So while Ottawa went fully accessible what, 5 years ago, Gatineau continues to buy high floor vehicles.



http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/actualit...13b_ville-de-gatineau_86608_section_POS2

Although there is something to be said about keeping old, reliable equipment until the bitter end, considering new buses don't seem to have more than 10 years of potential service, there is no reason to buy "new" used buses in this day and age. This is totally unacceptable.

Were those the ones Calgary purchased used from Connecticut perchance?

Also, the price seems high. Cold Lake bought six busses from Calgary for $44,000 - $5,000 for each bus and $14,000 in spare parts and transportation costs. http://www.cptdb.ca/?showtopic=16623

[GoTrans]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

The way I see it, promising 100% to Hamilton makes sense because the project is relatively cheap considering the size of the city. A $1B project in a city of 700k.

By contrast, Ottawa's "LRT" (essentially metro) system will cost $5.1B in a city of 900k.

What is good enough for one city should be good for the next. It is about keeping a level playing field. In addition, one has to treat Ottawa as the metropolitan region of 1.2 million not 900 thousand. Travel across the provincial border accounts for significant traffic flows on both OC Transpo and STO.

It is time to stop thinking that one city should get a free ride while others have to pay.