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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 9:28 PM
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How do buildings do that? The clouds are around 30,000 feet high and to the left of the contrail you can see Frost Bank's shawdow!
I'm pretty sure that's just an optical illusion and coincidence that that shadow vaguely resembles Frost's top. There is no way buildings can affect clouds, unless you're talking about very low clouds/fog. Now, Frost does cast a very unique shadow/formation onto the clouds directly above it when it's very cloudy and foggy. This typically happens in the winter time. Basically all it is is that the floodlights atop Frost light up the clouds, and then in the center of the crown where there are no lights, or few of them anyway, there's a dark spot. The lower the clouds are, the more intense the effect is.


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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 9:56 PM
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^Interesting picture
okay, I can agree in using Airport/45th but I think we should include at least a little to the south of the river.
And I after I posed the question I felt like 35 really isn't far enough east, but there just isn't a good enough street that runs parallel.
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 10:00 PM
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Hyde Park is 38th to 45th, Guadalupe to Duval, only. (And the original Hyde Park didn't include 38th-40th).

45th to 51st-ish is "North Hyde Park".

Sensitive to this because people also inaccurately call my spot (south of 38th) "Hyde Park" when it's North University.

The housing stock north of 45th falls of precipitously in quality and size. There's a radical and obvious difference (ignore 45th itself of course for obvious reasons).
Ok, fine. Our vet thinks they're in Hyde Park though - Hyde Park Animal Clinic. They're located at 404 East 51st Street (78751). They've been our vet for 25 years and I always assumed that area was Hyde Park since they always touted it as such. They even have a "Historic Hyde Park" picture on the wall showing the old "Hyde Park" arch with a horse and buggy in the picture. One thing though, their current location is their 2nd one. I'm betting their first location was within Hyde Park. Now that I think about it I remember our vet saying something about them being located on 38th Street. I'll have to ask my mom about that.

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I would actually push Central up to North Loop or 2222.
That was what I had always thought too. I always used the numbered streets to judge what was "central" and not. 56th Street is the last numbered street in Austin, and it's a block south of 2222. Whenever I'm on a numbered street, it feels central to me. Especially when you realize they start at the river in downtown.

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The further you push Central Austin north, the smaller the area North-Central Austin becomes. At some point you have to decide if Central Austin abuts North Austin, with there being no North-Central. I disagree with this idea.

I still think 45th/Airport should be the boundary. I have no problem considering the Triangle North-Central Austin, although right on the boundary with Central Austin. 51st and 2222 certainly seem North-Central to me.

I still think of everything north of 19th Street and south of 2222 (or at the very least 56th Street) as being Central Austin. And actually I had never considered a "North Central" or "South Central". But that term makes better sense. I used to just call them North Austin and South Austin, and anything beyond that was "Far".


I'm a bit of a map hound and would really like to create one using some kind of agreed upon guideline on the boundary lines. For one thing, Emporis has maps for cities, not all of them, but some of the bigger cities have maps of each district and area of the city showing where each neighborhood is located. I'd like to get one made for Austin. It would serve the purpose of showing where all the buildings are located and the different neighborhoods in the city.
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 10:31 PM
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okay, I can agree in using Airport/45th but I think we should include at least a little to the south of the river.
And I after I posed the question I felt like 35 really isn't far enough east, but there just isn't a good enough street that runs parallel.
I have never considered anything south of the river to be Central. It just seems different to me.

I wouldn't consider anything east of I-35 to be Central either. However, I think you could define an East-Central area. I'd make it east of I-35, north of the river, then use the Red Line tracks and Pleasant Valley as a north and east boundary.

If you do that for the east side, then I'd make a West-Central Austin west of Mopac, south of 35th, with the Colorado River as the west and south boundaries.

Both of those are really small geographically and in population compared to the other districts, with the exception of downtown which obviously is a special case due to it's importance. That's why I don't include them in my list.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 10:33 PM
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That map would be really cool Kevin.
     
     
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Well, I got some stuff in from the city planner when I got home.

Burnett Road from 45th basically to Justin Lane has been zoned for VMU development on either side of the road. Lamar as well for roughly the same area.

The city says they are looking to create high density pedestrian friendly zones in the area. Given that I live half a block off of Burnett I am all for it.

1) I assume it will help my property value if my condos property is rezoned for VMU development

2) I would love for my area to become more walkable. I think this area already makes sense for some mid-sized (sub 8 story) developments to line Burnett road.. it is already pretty dense and I would much rather have a nice walkable neighborhood with a lot of boutique shops on the ground floor than the dense suburban stuff we get now.

In any case, I have some questions. Some of the tracts are listed as "opt-in/opt-out" which makes it sounds like the owner has a choice to build a VMU on the site.. does this mean the non "opt in" sites can only have VMU construction (i.e. no more shopping centers).

The deminsional standards are a bit of a concern for me.

It says that there are

1) No minimum setbacks
2) No FAR limit
3) No building coverage limit
4) No minimum site area

Not that I think it will happen, but does that mean someone can come plop a 500 foot building on one of these sites if they choose to?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 10:40 PM
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I'm a bit of a map hound and would really like to create one using some kind of agreed upon guideline on the boundary lines. For one thing, Emporis has maps for cities, not all of them, but some of the bigger cities have maps of each district and area of the city showing where each neighborhood is located. I'd like to get one made for Austin. It would serve the purpose of showing where all the buildings are located and the different neighborhoods in the city.
That would be really cool to put together.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 10:45 PM
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Burnett Road from 45th basically to Justin Lane has been zoned for VMU development on either side of the road. Lamar as well for roughly the same area.
Sounds fantastic!


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In any case, I have some questions. Some of the tracts are listed as "opt-in/opt-out" which makes it sounds like the owner has a choice to build a VMU on the site.. does this mean the non "opt in" sites can only have VMU construction (i.e. no more shopping centers).

The deminsional standards are a bit of a concern for me.

It says that there are

1) No minimum setbacks
2) No FAR limit
3) No building coverage limit
4) No minimum site area

Not that I think it will happen, but does that mean someone can come plop a 500 foot building on one of these sites if they choose to?
Not a zoning expert, but am all but positive there won't be any highrises along Burnet or Lamar in this area.
     
     
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Not a zoning expert, but am all but positive there won't be any highrises along Burnet or Lamar in this area.
I'm not expecting them, and I am sure the lack of FAR standards was to allow for more flexibility in development.. and I don't want to sound like a NIMBY, but I would prefer not to live in the shadow of highrises :lol
     
     
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Hey guys; I found this really neat slideshow of The Austonian; check it out!!!



http://www.flickr.com/photos/theaustonian/favorites/show/
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 11:05 PM
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All zoning in Austin, with the exception of CBD I believe, have height limits, though. A lack of floor-to-area-ratio requirements doesn't mean they can build as high as they want.
     
     
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This is what FAR effects.

To figure out what an 0.4 FAR means for your property, simply multiply your total lot size by 0.4. For example, an 0.4 FAR applied to a 10,000 square foot lot would yield an allowable 4,000 square feet of gross floor area)
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/zoning/sf_regs.htm
     
     
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All zoning in Austin, with the exception of CBD I believe, have height limits, though. A lack of floor-to-area-ratio requirements doesn't mean they can build as high as they want.
Well I just read the whole thing, the height limit is 60 feet.

So no worries. Like I said that lack of FAR limits is probably to allow a developer to maximize the density of the property within the height restrictions set by the city.

Also, I reread it and there is no requirement to build a VMU on a given property. Hopefully the used car lots sell and make way for VMU's soon

It also looks like they have carved out around our property for the rezoning.. so the neighbors got it, while we did not.
     
     
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As long as there are no height restrictions for north austin. So when and if they build a Cedar Fair park. There will be no height restrictions on rollercoasters.
     
     
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So I would assume you'll be seeing projects like Bridges on the Park and the Cole apartments that are on S. Lamar between Riverside and Barton Springs up that way now. Sounds like a great idea to me.
     
     
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As long as there are no height restrictions for north austin. So when and if they build a Cedar Fair park. There will be no height restrictions on rollercoasters.
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As long as there are no height restrictions for north austin. So when and if they build a Cedar Fair park. There will be no height restrictions on rollercoasters.
Blah, who wants Cedar Fair. I've been trying to think of a way to steal Kennywood and relocate it to Austin for a while now.
     
     
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So I would assume you'll be seeing projects like Bridges on the Park and the Cole apartments that are on S. Lamar between Riverside and Barton Springs up that way now. Sounds like a great idea to me.
actually our first one is going up. It isn't as big as though, but Burnett has a VMU going up just to the North of North Loop as we speak.. and yes I am a huge fan of those sorts of projects.. especially since they are required to have ground level retail on the side that fronts the road!
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2009, 11:27 PM
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Hey guys; I found this really neat slideshow of The Austonian; check it out!!!



http://www.flickr.com/photos/theaustonian/favorites/show/
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