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Old Posted Feb 4, 2020, 6:11 AM
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Am I the only one who kind of thinks they should just admit defeat on the blow-through floors, take off the exterior grating, and pretend like that was the design all along?


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Am I the only one who kind of thinks they should just admit defeat on the blow-through floors, take off the exterior grating, and pretend like that was the design all along?
That actually looks kind of cool! But there are structural columns along the perimeter.
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That actually looks kind of cool! But there are structural columns along the perimeter.
Id hope so because that looks precarious. But imagine what they did on the west end of the river with the building next to the train tracks.

That is even more intimidating. Meaning 150 N riverside.

90% of the mass is above the concreate podium.

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Amazing, hilarious first post. Welcome to the forum!
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Amazing, hilarious first post. Welcome to the forum!
Maybe the 'Endless Column' was an inspiration. But from the first time I saw this I imagined Ms Gang looking at a table full of empty take-out boxes. And she started to play with them.
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from the first time I saw this I imagined Ms Gang looking at a table full of empty take-out boxes. And she started to play with them.
a post of mine from 5 years ago:

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i agree, gang's tortured explanations of how they ended up where they did are indeed eye-rolling.

she should have just stuck to the truth:

it was a late night at the studio.... they decided to order some chinese food.... around midnight someone started goofing around with the empty food cartons.... skyscraper!

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my friend got a job at the AON center

blow thru floor this morning 02/07/20

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blow thru floor this morning 02/07/20

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Forgive me if this has been asked before, but the section where the construction blokes are hanging out, with the high ceiling, is that some special event section or something that will have an amenity functionality (cigar room, restaurant, ballroom, ect).
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Forgive me if this has been asked before, but the section where the construction blokes are hanging out, with the high ceiling, is that some special event section or something that will have an amenity functionality (cigar room, restaurant, ballroom, ect).
Blow-through required to due to wind issues they initially failed to model for. It's similar to 432 Park in NYC (except we can't have lights here).
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Blow-through required to due to wind issues they initially failed to model for. It's similar to 432 Park in NYC (except we can't have lights here).
They both function the same way, but one was arrived at as an after thought due to a lack of understanding on how tall buildings work, and the other was part of the overall composition from day 1 of the design due to an understanding how tall buildings work. 432 Park is an elegant study of how problems associated with towers can be solved, while Vista was ultimately about form making.

I would place a healthy bet that if Studio Gang receives another tall tower commission, dealing with wind and the slenderness of the building will show up much earlier in the design.
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They both function the same way, but one was arrived at as an after thought due to a lack of understanding on how tall buildings work, and the other was part of the overall composition from day 1 of the design due to an understanding how tall buildings work. 432 Park is an elegant study of how problems associated with towers can be solved, while Vista was ultimately about form making.
This is just demonstrably false, the CTBUH case study revealed that the blow-through floor became necessary when the developer wanted the size of the floorplates increased, which then increased wind load and required a redesign. Unlike 432 Park, Vista also happens to achieve the no small feat of spanning a multi-level roadway, preventing it from relying on the same structural systems as every other skyscraper.
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Blow-through required to due to wind issues they initially failed to model for. It's similar to 432 Park in NYC (except we can't have lights here).
Thanks. Makes sense.
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Thanks. Makes sense.
That view of Vista from Essex northeast is very impressive. I would also add that the color blue is well represented on the Chicago skyline.
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^^ excellent timing too. mid paint job
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^Very nice photo! The Essex to Vista skyline view is one of my favorites.

Here are a few shots from the blow thru floor. There will be some nice views from the top of Vista!
Vista Blow Thru Floor Photos
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Not a huge fan of the blow through floor on this, they look better on 432 Park Avenue.
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