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Old Posted Oct 17, 2023, 4:01 PM
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DEEM seeking extension on Bader Field luxury car development plan

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Old Posted Oct 17, 2023, 4:13 PM
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AC can not get out of its own way. The entire coast of NJ from Cape May to Sandy Hook is desirable beach front real estate, besides AC. We all know the race track was never going to happen and sure enough, it's not. F1 cars would have been incredibly loud as well. AC will not give up on trying to be an entertainment city and it is a mistake IMO. Bader field should be a marina, houses and a few restaurants. Some of the nicer houses should have docks right on the water. I think a pedestrian bridge over the inlet to the outlet stores would be a huge commodity too but that's obviously more ambitious. Maybe the dumbest thing about Bader Field is that nothing has been proposed for the baseball field. AC and the state of NJ should have put tons of effort into moving the BlueClaws from Lakewood to Atlantic City. Lakewood is in the NY metro and mostly Yankees fans.

Then there's the massive area of vacant lots on the beach near Ocean Casino. Build cheap single family beach houses. 1 mile away houses go for 5-10 million in Ventnor, someone would buy a 500k beach house there.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 5:03 AM
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 3:03 PM
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ATLANTIC CITY — DEEM Enterprises is seeking an extension of the six-months the city granted to pursue building a $3.2 billion car-centric residential and commercial project on Bader Field.

“Right now we are looking for an extension for a number of reasons,” DEEM principal and local attorney Dan Gallagher said Wednesday, including details to finalize about the title to the land and Green Acres restrictions.

Mayor Marty Small Sr. signed a memorandum of agreement with DEEM on March 24, giving the company time to convince the city and state it has the financial and technical expertise to complete the project, which includes a 2.4-mile auto racetrack for residents’ use.

“You have six months to show us what you’ve got,” Small said then.

The six-month period ended late last month.

“We will have a major announcement regarding the DEEM project very soon that the taxpayers of the Great City of Atlantic City should be thrilled about!” Small said in a written statement in response to questions Monday.

There is some good news, Gallagher said, about the plume of aviation fuel known to be under the historic airport site. DEEM has said it will clean that up as part of its development.

“The drillings and borings for the brownfield issues came out a lot more favorable than we thought,” Gallagher said. “The plume is not as big and there are not as many contaminants (as expected).”

At about the halfway mark, DEEM had paid $500,000 to the city, provided information to state agencies and city professionals, and begun soil tests and a traffic study, according to one of its principals.

“The big requirement is to ... prove various aspects of the proposed development to many state agencies,” DEEM Enterprises CEO Erick Feitshans said in a phone interview in July.

Feitshans, who works in the television and motion picture industry and is based in Los Angeles, said DEEM would have liked a full-year exclusivity period but will get as much done as it can in six months.

DEEM was also working to line up $750 million in investment needed to proceed, Feitshans said then.

The $750 million would cover the first phase of building, he said, which would be “horizontal construction costs” related to site remediation, raising the site about six feet, and getting everything ready to build on through infrastructure and design work.

“One of the key components the state and city need to see as part of the MOU is financial capability, to be able to finance the project,” Feitshans said. “We’re confident we can do it in that amount of time.”

The group had already spent about $25 million to date, Feitshans said, on engineering, architectural and brownfield work over the past few years.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 3:06 PM
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AC can not get out of its own way. The entire coast of NJ from Cape May to Sandy Hook is desirable beach front real estate, besides AC. We all know the race track was never going to happen and sure enough, it's not. F1 cars would have been incredibly loud as well. AC will not give up on trying to be an entertainment city and it is a mistake IMO. Bader field should be a marina, houses and a few restaurants. Some of the nicer houses should have docks right on the water. I think a pedestrian bridge over the inlet to the outlet stores would be a huge commodity too but that's obviously more ambitious. Maybe the dumbest thing about Bader Field is that nothing has been proposed for the baseball field. AC and the state of NJ should have put tons of effort into moving the BlueClaws from Lakewood to Atlantic City. Lakewood is in the NY metro and mostly Yankees fans.

Then there's the massive area of vacant lots on the beach near Ocean Casino. Build cheap single family beach houses. 1 mile away houses go for 5-10 million in Ventnor, someone would buy a 500k beach house there.
I agree 100%. There is no reason for AC to fail besides it's own incompetence. It is pretty frustrating.
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I agree 100%. There is no reason for AC to fail besides it's own incompetence. It is pretty frustrating.
Agreed. Why does everything have to be so gimicky?

Shore Prices are through the roof. Just build a phased walkable town center type neighborhood rich in amenities (like parks, tennis and pickle ball courts, a resort like pool complex) and some commercial with reachable prices for the shore (say, sub-$500K) and it would be a massive success.

It's not that complicated.
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Agreed. Why does everything have to be so gimicky?

Shore Prices are through the roof. Just build a phased walkable town center type neighborhood rich in amenities (like parks, tennis and pickle ball courts, a resort like pool complex) and some commercial with reachable prices for the shore (say, sub-$500K) and it would be a massive success.

It's not that complicated.
It's amazing. That should be one of the great destinations of the Northeast. It takes stunning incompetence, starting with Captain Cheeto, to screw that up.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2023, 7:11 PM
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It's amazing. That should be one of the great destinations of the Northeast. It takes stunning incompetence, starting with Captain Cheeto, to screw that up.
It's really not that hard. Schell Brothers (in Delaware) is building large communities west of Rt 1 in Delaware and overloading them with amenities since they're off the beach.

Something like this, though with a different aesthetic. This cottage-y aesthetic is super overdone. https://schellbrothers.com/find-new-...the-peninsula/

There is literally nothing like this at the Jersey Shore. Even if it were Atlantic City, people wouldn't care if it had these sorts of amenities.
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Good opportunity to knock down the former JCPenney and build a hotel or apartment. Ridiculous that Upper Merion is against the idea.

Plans for Wayfair flagship store and rooftop bar at King of Prussia Mall fall through
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...ssia-mall.html
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2023, 5:54 PM
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development in wilmington, lots of units have been added in just 3 years.

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...Pos=8#cxrecs_s
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I agree 100%. There is no reason for AC to fail besides it's own incompetence. It is pretty frustrating.
I think the main thing Atlantic City did wrong was not copying Vegas in the late 90s/early 00s. Doubling down on gambling and eschewing the other entertainment that people still go to Vegas for was what did them in.


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Good opportunity to knock down the former JCPenney and build a hotel or apartment. Ridiculous that Upper Merion is against the idea.

Plans for Wayfair flagship store and rooftop bar at King of Prussia Mall fall through
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...ssia-mall.html
Random thought: if the Plymouth Meeting Mall closes, could they move the Legoland Discovery Center to KOP?
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It's really not that hard. Schell Brothers (in Delaware) is building large communities west of Rt 1 in Delaware and overloading them with amenities since they're off the beach.

Something like this, though with a different aesthetic. This cottage-y aesthetic is super overdone. https://schellbrothers.com/find-new-...the-peninsula/

There is literally nothing like this at the Jersey Shore. Even if it were Atlantic City, people wouldn't care if it had these sorts of amenities.
I grew up in the coastal southeast, and amenity communities like this have been a "thing" in that region for at least two decades now. I'm not aware of a single one that hasn't been successful. And many of them try very hard to inject some sort of urbanity--typically sidewalks that lead to nowhere and sometimes "alleys" behind the houses. A developer in Atlantic City wouldn't have to worry about that at all.
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I think the main thing Atlantic City did wrong was not copying Vegas in the late 90s/early 00s. Doubling down on gambling and eschewing the other entertainment that people still go to Vegas for was what did them in.
Vegas is a different animal, and commercial gambling is illegal in most of the surrounding Western states. Commercial gambling is legal in NY and PA.

I second the idea that AC should just cash in on being a beach city versus a gambling city.
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Random thought: if the Plymouth Meeting Mall closes, could they move the Legoland Discovery Center to KOP?
I don't see the PM Mall closing, it's quite successful right now for everything facing outside of the enclosed mall and Honeygrow is under construction right now next to Shake Shack so there is still momentum. If the inside closes LLD will still be accessible (or a standalone spot will be built) and I assume they will just reconfigure the whole property into a town center-ish place (and I am sure part of the reason why the owners are still pushing for the apartments on the property).

But in a hypothetical could LLD move to KOP? Sure, anything would be possible but some blocks [pun intended] would be having a space big enough, rent prices, PM Mall giving them incentives to stay (it is still a big draw and I have friends that trek from pretty far to bring the kids), etc.
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SEPTA takes initial step towards redeveloping 6.5 acres in Conshohocken with parking garage and apartments
https://morethanthecurve.com/septa-t...nd-apartments/

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SEPTA takes initial step towards redeveloping 6.5 acres in Conshohocken with parking garage and apartments
https://morethanthecurve.com/septa-t...nd-apartments/

Original statement from the borough Presidents: "Conshohocken’s borough council had removed residential uses from the zoning districts that comprise the riverfront in 2022 citing the increase in population and public safety."

Like what??

But good news that the position has changed.
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Original statement from the borough Presidents: "Conshohocken’s borough council had removed residential uses from the zoning districts that comprise the riverfront in 2022 citing the increase in population and public safety."

Like what??

But good news that the position has changed.
As a former resident of the Conshohocken riverfront, I can only imagine that change was related to the often severe flooding of the Schuylkill, which was threatening enough to require evacuation on at least one occasion.

But with the demand for housing there, I think it's still possible to engineer a better solutions to flooding that don't preclude housing altogether. It's just a matter of adapting to climate change (although I'm sure it won't be cheap).

It's smart for SEPTA to be pushing for this.
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Id love to see septa push that approach more, development like that can not only bring revenue in for selling/building rights, but more people could ride the train and bring ridership up as well. Alot of transit organizations do it, its about time we get on board
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The Ridge Pike Improvement Project continues on and it's not going to be fun over the next few years but that road is a deathtrap and while I have seen some pretty bad accidents, I am always surprised that there aren't more:

https://www.montgomerycountypa.gov/2...vement-Project

And speaking of RP, Royal Farms is trying to expand further in the area:

Royal Farms seeking to transfer liquor license to new location coming to Conshohocken
https://morethanthecurve.com/royal-f...-conshohocken/
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NORRISTOWN — Norristown officials have seen a glimpse of the future in mixed use development on Main Street.

The property is currently in a conceptual phase, however, developers hope to include 140 residential “market rate” units atop 6,100 square feet of commercial space, according to municipal officials.

Representatives of the roughly $31 million project addressed members of the Norristown Municipal Council during a recent meeting to get preliminary feedback on their idea currently zoned in the town center district.

“Our basic view on Norristown is everyone knows the rents went up,” said property owner James Anderson, adding that “we have a real housing and cost issue.”

The property stretches from Main to Lafayette streets and used to operate as a Rite Aid, according to municipal officials.

Developers are aiming to attract “upwardly mobile single professionals” to live in a mixture of “borrowed light,” one-bedroom and two-bedroom apartments, according to Anderson, with rents expected at a “blended $1,900 per month.”

Offering less expensive housing, Anderson said that “the trade off is we need more density,” by producing “smaller units.”
https://www.timesherald.com/2023/10/...e-development/
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