Saskatoon | Baydo Towers | ??m - ??m | 25-25 Floors | U/C

[The Bess]

point taken Whipper

[Dalreg]

Whippy, still not the tallest twins either. Renaissance would take that honour. Nothing says twins have to be the same size

Hey Ralphie Boy

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Dalreg

Whippy, still not the tallest twins either. Renaissance would take that honour. Nothing says twins have to be the same size

Hey Ralphie Boy

Do you have a confirmed height?

Baydo should be taller than Renaissance. Baydo has more floors and average floor height across Canada are higher than they were in the 1980s.

[Saskabusher]

Yes, it's true, they won't be the prettiest. But they're better than huge swaths of Mississsuaga, or even Young St. North, from the 70's. We'll hide them in the future, no worries. For now, we've not got much. Give us our shit sticks and let us expand to the heavens with glass towers and a hopeful future. We need people downtown. It's a great place to live, that most Saskatonians don't accept. Downtown died with the suburban shopping mall....

[WhipperSnapper]

I hate saying this but, personal aesthetics are subjective. However, comparing these to cheap towers built in the 1970s indicates to me that we don't differ that much on the exterior aesthetics of Baydo. I think it's wishful thinking taller towers will come and they will be nicer from the public's eye than the precedence already set by 639 Main, 880 Broadway and Baydo.

Once again, there's a lot of room between Baydo and glass towers. This continues to be written out with arguments between glass and Baydo as glass arguably is not economic. I don't know. Rents are a third to a quarter that of Torontos but, downtown Saskatoon developers aren't debt financing $100 million just for a piece of land. Again, it feels more rationalizing ugly than finding Baydo's rendered designs pleasing.

[905er]

Originally Posted by Saskabusher

Yes, it's true, they won't be the prettiest. But they're better than huge swaths of Mississsuaga, or even Young St. North, from the 70's. We'll hide them in the future, no worries. For now, we've not got much. Give us our shit sticks and let us expand to the heavens with glass towers and a hopeful future. We need people downtown. It's a great place to live, that most Saskatonians don't accept. Downtown died with the suburban shopping mall....

i'm sorry, what? you actually think these Baydo turds are better than Mississauga's (I'll spell that correctly for you) new towers?
I can't imagine anyone picking those over the new towers in Mississauga.. I just can't imagine.

More river landing Saskatoon... and way less Baydo.

[roryn1]

Fancy glass towers like No1RL are good for a very small group of folks, but this tower is a lot more perfect for one of the biggest issues in Canada - stable home prices. The efficiency of this tower will also be phenomenally better, keeping with affordability, vs some of the nightmare projects like ICE, inflating housing prices in TO that is causing those folks to leave that bubble and come to SK and AB for a more quality and affordable life.

[Saskabusher]

No, 905er, I said from the 70's- the 1970's. The bar is pretty low here, if you haven't noticed. I wasn't baiting anyone, but please read carefully. Thanks!

[905er]

Originally Posted by Saskabusher

No, 905er, I said from the 70's- the 1970's. The bar is pretty low here, if you haven't noticed. I wasn't baiting anyone, but please read carefully. Thanks!

...my bad.. i completely missed that. I take that back.

[Saskabusher]

WhipperSnapper, good point, not either 'window-less', or glass walls. I was just being concise. Glass walls are horribly inefficient here. We literally get weeks of -30 to -40. It's not feasible to have massive glass windows. I don't even know who wants to live in a glass house here. And in many new developments, they're showing clear glass balcony enclosures and walls around common areas. I have to say, people get sick literally from picking up all the beautiful, dead birds. Architects seem to be detached from the location more than is admitted, yet obvious in the design, and that's a shame. Reflective glass and clear glass need to be banned from large projects and balconies, everywhere. F your view. A tint is all it it takes to make the world a better place.
Anyway, I've seen a lot of good designs coming out of Calgary and Vancouver that would probably work well in Saskatoon and update our outdated skyline.
So anyway, Baydo's design here, has changed a few times, and the last one I think, is acceptable, for what it is, a rental with retail. If this project succeeds, more will come. Bingo! Less in the suburbs is a more vibrant core, like Saskatoon had in the 1950s, 60s and 70s! Look at those old photos- it looks like Toronto! Haha

[WhipperSnapper]

Toronto has introduced strict bird safety glass policies so I recommended not buyng a place on a pre built/ under construction mid rise floor as your view of your next building (hopefully clothed) neighbour will be proliferated with porcelain dots

I don't know why the conversation continues on glass towers. That ain't Baydo and the lack thereof is not what makes Baydo's renderings look like shit. My gut tells me its continued misdirection from acceptance. I'm telling you that local development enthusiasts deserve much better.

[roryn1]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Toronto has introduced strict bird safety glass policies so I recommended not buyng a place on a pre built/ under construction mid rise floor as your view of your next building (hopefully clothed) neighbour will be proliferated with porcelain dots

They have these dots at our new Wanuskewin Heritage site and it prevents 70% less bird deaths. Sorry to hear that Toronto vapidness favours dead birds over aesthetics, let alone expensive glass towers in a cold climate during climate change that have inflated the entire town’s cost of living into an expensive glass bubble of rectangles they expect people to raise families in lol

[CanadianDriverYXE]

November Update! 11/13/23
I would post weekly pictures but there isn't a lot of progress to show, so I choose to just post these pictures monthly.

[asdfgh]

Originally Posted by CanadianDriverYXE

November Update! 11/13/23
I would post weekly pictures but there isn't a lot of progress to show, so I choose to just post these pictures monthly.

So it's sitting at 19 stories? or 20? So they have 5 stories to go.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by CanadianDriverYXE

I would post weekly pictures but there isn't a lot of progress to show, so I choose to just post these pictures monthly.

Kind of cruising along at their usual pace. Looks like about 1-1/2 floors added and 2 more closed in over the last month.

[Saskabusher]

Thanks for the photo, CDYXE. You're probably right, once a month is about right for an update. Progress I can see:

-It looks like the core/ height is done.

- 20 floors of 'framing' are done. (They'll add one more round of 4-floor steel posts, which will bring it to 24 storys, and then some extra steel for the 25 fl/penthouse common area. So they should top out by...March?)

-It looks like they've finally got the south-west corner going, with steel in place and the full perimeter shape of the podium.

-A bit more wall-in insulation.

I hadn't noticed the balconies hanging off the river side, but they were there in the last photo....

Well, as Crisis says, cruising along at their usual pace. Haha. I will point out, their "Help wanted, all positions" sign is still up. There are thousands of foreign workers in the tar sands, at Tims, etc. Can't they work in construction? I really wonder how much their pace is affected by their apparent labour shortage....

[asdfgh]

Originally Posted by Saskabusher

Thanks for the photo, CDYXE. You're probably right, once a month is about right for an update. Progress I can see:

-It looks like the core/ height is done.

- 20 floors of 'framing' are done. (They'll add one more round of 4-floor steel posts, which will bring it to 24 storys, and then some extra steel for the 25 fl/penthouse common area. So they should top out by...March?)

-It looks like they've finally got the south-west corner going, with steel in place and the full perimeter shape of the podium.

-A bit more wall-in insulation.

I hadn't noticed the balconies hanging off the river side, but they were there in the last photo....

Well, as Crisis says, cruising along at their usual pace. Haha. I will point out, their "Help wanted, all positions" sign is still up. There are thousands of foreign workers in the tar sands, at Tims, etc. Can't they work in construction? I really wonder how much their pace is affected by their apparent labour shortage....

I drive by on the weekend and it looks like they've added 4 more floors worth of steel, so I think you are spot on with the process of framing it. It's nice those next four floors seem to be being framed fairly quickly. Hopefully soon we'll get a better feel for the actual height compared to the surrounding buildings.

[Saskabusher]

Oh, that's good to hear. I wouldn't want to do that job in -30C, with a windchill factor!

I'm getting really curious to see the first splash of coloured siding fall into place. Not for a while yet, I think.

One other curious thing is that there doesn't seem to be a construction lift on any side of the building. Might it be going up in the core? I've never heard of that before, if it is... but where else? Or maybe that's why it's taking so long and nobody wants to work there because you have to walk up every morning, noon, and night....

[WhipperSnapper]

Construction hoists that fit inside elevator cores do exist

[CanadianDriverYXE]

December 01, 2023 Construction Update.