CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7 - Page 30

the urban politician · #**581** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 12:52 AM**

^ It can't possibly be hard to get a demo permit for a non-landmarked building

munchymunch · #**582** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 12:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

Sort of sounds like the owner is getting a demo permit preemptively as an added aspect of the sale? Not that they actually plan on demolishing it themselves, but to make it more appealing for a developer.

The applicant is the CEO of Optimus the company that recently moved from the building.

ChickeNES · #**583** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by munchymunch

Actually what just happened. What is this like 7 different big news stories regarding development in the past few days?

wow.

Can we call this a boom now?

the urban politician · #**584** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:23 AM**

^ I refuse to call this a boom until we at least have an 800 footer under construction.

LouisVanDerWright · #**585** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ I refuse to call this a boom until we at least have an 800 footer under construction.

We are in the early stages of a boom, it feels like 2004, not 2007. Given the fuel the Fed is still dumping on the fire I think it's likely we are in for quite a ride over the next 2-3 years and then will probably be pile driven with an equally intense bust.

BVictor1 · #**586** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ I refuse to call this a boom until we at least have an 800 footer under construction.

I don't know if I necessarily want a boom... I want a 'steady as she goes'. When you have booms, you have busts and crashes. There's nothing wrong with pacing ourselves.

marothisu · #**587** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 2:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ I refuse to call this a boom until we at least have an 800 footer under construction.

Height has nothing to do with anything. It should be the number of buildings, units, offices, etc. By your own requirements, a city like Washington DC will never be in a boom regardless of what's happening. IMO it's the possible beginning of a boom, as long as it can continue at a nice rate steadily, that's all I want. Boom would be nice but then we have to deal with a let down after that

munchymunch · #**588** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 2:04 PM**

Commenter on Chicago architecture blog says helmet Hahn tower is 86 stories.

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...treetwall-gap/

Can anybody back this up?

rlw777 · #**589** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by munchymunch

Commenter on Chicago architecture blog says helmet Hahn tower is 86 stories.

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...treetwall-gap/

Can anybody back this up?

Jahn Design has supertall potential?

Here's the comment

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Add an 86 story residential building to the vacant lot on the left of your photo at 1000 S Michigan. That application notification arrived in the same mail delivery. So much for the “wall."

Skyguy_7 · #**590** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by rlw777

Jahn Design has supertall potential?

Here's the comment

Sloopers- Check your mailboxes, stat!

Randomguy34 · #**591** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 3:39 PM**

The new information for the Jahn design will make this 3 towers soon to be unveiled for S Michigan Ave. The demand there must be so hot that we should just hold the NYE celebration there so that people won't complain about being in the cold

LouisVanDerWright · #**592** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 4:07 PM**

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Add an 86 story residential building to the vacant lot on the left of your photo at 1000 S Michigan. That application notification arrived in the same mail delivery. So much for the “wall."

If this guy is full of shit, it should be incredibly easy to verify. If the notification was really sent out, hundreds of people probably got it. Is Mr. DT or Aaron or somewhere within the notification radius of 1000 S Michigan?

But assuming he is not full of shit, an 86 story Jahn right on the park? Excellent. Chicago's supertalls up until this cycle have been entirely authored by design mills or SOM, never starchitects. Now we are looking at a rash of big names in the architecture world adding to the peaks of our skyline:

Vinoly
Jahn
Gang
Pelli
RAMSA (ugh, he's still famous whether he should be or not)

Quite the list if you ask me, let's hope it all gets built.

wierdaaron · #**593** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 4:38 PM**

I'd like to see what bKL could do with a project that size. Don't know if they're "there" yet, but most of their 40+ work has been great.

LouisVanDerWright · #**594** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 5:29 PM**

^^^ I'm sure they are "there", I'm not sure there is much more to designing a 100 story tower than there is to designing a 55 story one, at least aesthetically. bKl has demonstrated they are very good at picking appropriate massing for their towers which is really the main concern as you go to larger and larger designs.

I'm going to call it right now: bKl's first supertall will be a 120 story residential tower on the South gateway to the river in LSE.

BVictor1 · #**595** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

If this guy is full of shit, it should be incredibly easy to verify. If the notification was really sent out, hundreds of people probably got it. Is Mr. DT or Aaron or somewhere within the notification radius of 1000 S Michigan?

But assuming he is not full of shit, an 86 story Jahn right on the park? Excellent. Chicago's supertalls up until this cycle have been entirely authored by design mills or SOM, never starchitects. Now we are looking at a rash of big names in the architecture world adding to the peaks of our skyline:

Vinoly
Jahn
Gang
Pelli
RAMSA (ugh, he's still famous whether he should be or not)

Quite the list if you ask me, let's hope it all gets built.

Only people within a few hundred feet would get a notification

rlw777 · #**596** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 5:46 PM**

I hope all these south loop projects take off. All these projects mean a much needed boost to the pedestrian experience in the south loop.

Jibba · #**597** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 5:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Maybe I just have low standards, but I am actually super happy to be getting a tower that uses actual brick. Not precast, not CIP, not aluminum, not glass curtain wall but honest to god brick.

Also, I have a thing for bay windows. These are an important feature of Chicago architecture that most local architects have rejected in the last 20 years or so, and I can't figure out why. Leave it to good ol' VOA to go old-school.

Call me crazy, but I find the base to be somewhat attractive (for what it is). The geometry is crisp, the vent pattern is nice (and honest), and it's offset from the street-level and tower portions very boldly--they're not trying to hide it. The planes of the elevations of the tower have the same crispness, and with fine-grained brickwork, they will look really slick.

wierdaaron · #**598** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 5:53 PM**

I don't mean bKL isn't "there" capabilities-wise, just in terms of landing those kinds of projects or being on developers' radars for supertall designs. LSE would be a safer bet for them, since it's home turf.

LouisVanDerWright · #**599** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Only people within a few hundred feet would get a notification

I believe it's 400 or 500 feet which is enough to encompass quite a few addresses in the area. I suppose Dearborn Park would be out of range, but don't a few forumers live down in that area?

rlw777 · #**600** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

I believe it's 400 or 500 feet which is enough to encompass quite a few addresses in the area. I suppose Dearborn Park would be out of range, but don't a few forumers live down in that area?

It's 250 ft.