Salt Lake MSA Development Thread

[delts145]

Weak market delays NSL’s Eaglewood Village


http://davisclipper.com/default.asp?...rtoday&he=.com



The date for vertical construction on the development’s upper homes, the first area scheduled to be worked on, has been pushed back a few months to sometime in October. Late summer and early fall construction, which is when Compass Development initially hoped to start working on the homes, is being occupied by road, curb and gutter work.

The biggest thing is that it’s just been a crazy market. There’s less of a rush to get the homes up,” said Ben Lowe, a principal at Compass Development. “A few months off isn’t so far, especially with a big winter slowing things down.”

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[Future Mayor]

Yes you are correct, government is suppose to be for the betterment of all. All the citizens of the jurisdiction that those elected officials represent. While I don't want to see the Proscenium happen, and I'm 95% sure it won't happen as proposed, Sandy does need to increase its tax base.

The biggest problem that I have with Dolan is that he seems to want every development that is presented to the city. There is no way the Proscenium should be approved without a major traffic study and solutions to the increased traffic demands as part of the developers overall project including fronting some of the money for the necessary improvements, such as a 100th S interchange, etc.

I think Dolan feels that for some reason they have to accept every proposal that is presented. Sandy is in a prime location, it is the second largest city in the Valley situated directly on I-15, they have the ability to choose developments that will create a more desirable city to live in and stay in for those already residing there.

Sandy can't simply sit on it's thumbs and say, "Well we cant do anything because SLC deserves everything. I guess we'll just have to further tax the tax base that we currently have." Sandy will grow it is inevitable. How they grow is what needs to be examined.

[anyiliang]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

There is no way the Proscenium should be approved without a major traffic study and solutions to the increased traffic demands as part of the developers overall project including fronting some of the money for the necessary improvements, such as a 100th S interchange, etc.

I totally agree. I am for the Proscenium, but I think that there should be a traffic study and every other study to make sure this project is going to work for that site. I do feel that it is not right to have a developer come in and be allowed to do what every they want. The city council needs to think a little more. If not, this project site could look like the one in Sugar House. The Proscenium could be one giant fenced in lot with nothing happening for many years.

[delts145]

Kennecott to room with Rio Tinto in green HQ
- Copper giant's S. Jordan digs LEED-certified

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_10367197


Kennecott, which is owned by Rio Tinto, is consolidating its offices in a new Rio Tinto Regional Center in South Jordan. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune )


Kennecott is consolidating all of its offices in a facility in Daybreak that is LEED-certified, constructed with high-performance energy and design. These office suites use plenty of natural light. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune)


The Daybreak development can be seen beyond the building's solar panels. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune)

In all, about 570 people from Rio Tinto, Kennecott Utah Copper and Kennecott Land will move to the new facility in the Daybreak master-planned community at the foot of the Oquirrh Mountains.

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[cololi]

Originally Posted by delts145

I really like the design of this building. And props to Rio Tinto for moving their offices there. That will be a major boon to the vitality of their commercial node. Now they just need to get some retail and restaurant located their so people don't get entrenched in driving to the district across Bangerter. I think South Jordan really did daybreak a big disservice by allowing the district property to be zoned for that level of commercial. It really jeopardizes the overall goal of Daybreak. hopefully when the jordan line is up and running daybreak will turn into a destination. it really could be a great community.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by cololi

I really like the design of this building. And props to Rio Tinto for moving their offices there. That will be a major boon to the vitality of their commercial node. Now they just need to get some retail and restaurant located their so people don't get entrenched in driving to the district across Bangerter. I think South Jordan really did daybreak a big disservice by allowing the district property to be zoned for that level of commercial. It really jeopardizes the overall goal of Daybreak. hopefully when the jordan line is up and running daybreak will turn into a destination. it really could be a great community.

Those offices look really great. I'm glad their doing a teeny bit for the environment after decades of raping it. It's too bad they're moving their HQ from Magna, though. Magna could use the business.

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by cololi

I think South Jordan really did daybreak a big disservice by allowing the district property to be zoned for that level of commercial. It really jeopardizes the overall goal of Daybreak.

I'm not sure what ever became of it all, but for this exact reason Kennecott Land filed a lawsuit against S. Jordan a few years ago. Apparatly, The District was approved in violation of a previous agreement that Kennecott Land had with the city.
See
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here
for more information about the lawsuit.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by arkhitektor

I'm not sure what ever became of it all, but for this exact reason Kennecott Land filed a lawsuit against S. Jordan a few years ago. Apparatly, The District was approved in violation of a previous agreement that Kennecott Land had with the city.
See
here
and
here
for more information about the lawsuit.

Maybe this is PART of the reason (probably not the sole reason) for Kennecott to move their HQ from Arbor Park in Magna to Daybreak. The District in S. Jordan was developed by Arbor Commercial, the same people who developed and Kennecott leased their HQ offices from in Magna at Arbor Park.

http://www.arborutah.com/

[RFPCME]

Originally Posted by anyiliang

Question for everyone. If you were elected to be mayor of a suburb city, what would you do if that city was almost built out and you wanted to increase tax revenue? The reason I ask this question is because so many of you of complain about Sandy and how Mayor Dolan runs the city. My opinion, yeah is might not be the best guy but there are lots of things that I would do the same. Again, this is my opinion coming from a business background. First, I look at the Sandy city as a business. While there is basically no increase in population in the near future and land running out, I need to think of other ways to bring in Tax revenue to support the city. So because I run the city as a business and I look at Salt Lake City as a business and my competition, I will do anything to survive. So I build a expo center, bring is a sports facility and now I try to revamp the core of the city. I build the Proscenium project along with expanding it into the South Towne Mall. That mall has to go. I would build something like the Gateway and have taller building on the outskirts of it. And most of all, I would spend hundred of thousands of dollars in lobbying to get that $20 million to redo my streets or anything else. From a business view, investing even a million to get a 20 million return is a steal.

Anyways, I am just wondering what everyone else would do if there were mayor of a suburb city. And I know some jackass will say, I would never be a mayor of a suburb city. But sometimes you have to start out at the bottom to work your way to the top.

Anyiliang: I have respect for public officials, especially at the city and country levels. (At least in Utah) They work for peanuts (far less than what comparable jobs in the private sector would command) and, by and large, generally do a pretty good job. The financial standards they must work to are far more severe than those in the private sector. In fact, I would be willing to bet, most business people, like me, would never accept the financial limitations imposed on cities and counties.

Nevertheless, the problem you pose for Sandy (and Salt Lake, for that matter) about how to raise the tax base when available land is limited is a good one. But for me the solution is a simple one: give the people what they want and need, both in the short- and long-terms, which is where I take issue with cities like Sandy.

If you create a desirable living environment, the tax base will follow. You can do this with short term goals in mind and development takes on a short-term profile. The results are predictable: lax planning and zoning, resulting in suburban sprawl; poor public works projects; and cute-rate development, short-lived and ultimately detrimental to future generations.

As just one example of a longer-term view...if Sandy and other cities were to focus on re-development of largely vacant strip malls within the city limits and substantial city infra-structure to support these re-developments, the positive effects would be lasting and spread. But it seems Sandy is more concerned with the quick-fix, mega-projects that seem the answer to all problems, but in reality may create more problems than they solve.

I realize local politicians have a short time in office (especially in relation to development time frames). And I'm sure nailing down an ego-inflating mega-project is much more tempting than several, much more sensible, smaller projects. But I think the latter has much better long-term potential than the former, ultimately creating desirable living environments that should lead to a much larger tax base.

[T-Mac]

Hamlet Development to begin work on Murray office building

The Enterprise

Hamlet Development, an arm of Murray-based Hamlet Homes, plans to break ground in 30 to 45 days for the first major commercial office building in its $140 million, 30-acre mixed-use Birkhill at Fireclay development in Murray.

Company CEO and founder Michael Brodsky said the approximately 35,000 square foot Class A office building will be located at 4241 S Main St. and was two-thirds pre-leased before architect James Glascock had completed designing it. The three-story structure's top two levels have been spoken for, while the ground level is being marketed by Coldwell Banker Commercial NRT, he said.

Camco Construction is general contractor on the office building, slated to open in July or August of next year. Brodsky said the structure's appearance will be consistent with the rest of the Birkhill at Fireclay development, featuring primarily brick with some stucco accents.

Completed buildings at Birkhill at Fireclay include 41 residential for-sale condominiums, approximately eight of which have been sold, in addition to roughly 15,000 square feet of office/retail space, for which tenants are being sought, Brodsky said.

Hamlet unveiled plans for Birkhill at Fireclay in March 2007. The project will encompass roughly 30 acres at the instersection of Main Street and Fireclay Avenue (4295 South). Plans call for roughly 420 for-sale residential units and a little more than 200,000 square feet of office and retail space.

[delts145]

Metro Resorts Busy With Upgrades

By Mike Gorrell
The Salt Lake Tribune


A helicopter Wednesday assists with the installation of a tower that will support a new high-speed quad chairlift at Solitude Mountain Resort. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune )

SOLITUDE - Even more than Monday's premature snow flurries, a succession of helicopter flights here on a clear blue Wednesday morning signaled that winter is not far off.
Solitude Mountain Resort took advantage of a clement fallish day to use a helicopter to put into place support towers for two new high-speed quad chairlifts.
Park City Mountain Resort has similar plans for today - as long as it doesn't get too windy - scheduling an aerial lift-building session for a new high-speed quad, called Crescent, that will supplement the existing Ski Team lift.
The two construction projects are part of roughly $30 million in improvements that Utah ski resorts are putting into place this summer, hoping to capitalize on residual fervor from a season in which skiers and boarders played on frequently replenished slopes. By season's end, more than 700 inches of snow were recorded at Alta Ski Area, which traditionally receives more snow than other Utah resorts.
It took until midsummer to melt all of that snow, delaying the start of some offseason projects. But from Brian Head down south to Beaver Mountain up north, Utah's 13 active ski areas are racing to complete their work before it starts falling again in earnest.
"They definitely had the weather on their side today," Solitude Mountain Resort spokesman Nick Como said Wednesday as a helicopter ferried 23 lift towers to
their new mountain spots. In the next few weeks, those towers will be linked with steel cables and other accessories to become a pair of high-speed quads, dubbed Apex Express and Moonbeam Express.
"It took forever for the snow to melt, but they're ahead of schedule now. Both lifts should be ready for opening day," said Como, noting that extensive grading work around the summit of the Apex Express will create a smoother transition slope for beginners and intermediates upon exiting the chair.


Jamie Kanzler, left, and Peter Johnson of Doppelmayr CTEC, based in Salt Lake City, align a new chairlift tower into position Wednesday at Solitude. The resort is installing two new high-speed quad lifts. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune )

Solitude's $7 million investment is significant but still less expensive than the upgrades at two Park City-area resorts.
Park City Mountain Resort is spending $10.5 million to make the area it has called Ski Team Ridge more accessible to recreational skiers and boarders. The high-speed Crescent quad will climb higher up the ridge that will now be known as Crescent Ridge chairlift.
"The new chairlift will be a great new access point out of the base area," said resort spokeswoman Paula Altschuler, adding that the chair will make it easier to reach some of the resort's best expert terrain, slopes enhanced with the shaping of a new run and some glading work.
Renovations also are under way at Park City's Mid-Mountain Lodge. Similar work is under way at Deer Valley, where $8 million in upgrades are being made to Empire Canyon Lodge and Cushing's Cabin, which is near the convergence of four lifts at the top of Flagstaff Mountain.
The new cabin will seat 40-45 guests and will house a ski patrol office and restrooms.
The third Park City-area resort, The Canyons, is installing a gondola and a fixed-grip quad chair to improve internal traffic flow and has done some glading work to enhance tree skiing off the Peak 5 lift.
Elsewhere, Brighton Resort has invested $1.5 million in a 3,500-square-foot day lodge, called Milly Chalet, at the bottom of the Milly high-speed quad chairlift. Beaver Mountain also is making $300,000 in improvements to its traditional A-frame day lodge near the top of Logan Canyon, and Snowbasin replaced its beginner lift with a detachable quad.



Utah's ski resorts have invested roughly $30 million this offseason into:

* Five new lifts and a gondola
* One new day lodge and renovations to eight existing lodges, restaurants and clubs
* Improved snowmaking at two resorts
* Glading work to enhance tree skiing at three resorts
Source: Ski Utah


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[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by T-Mac

Hamlet Development to begin work on Murray office building

The Enterprise

Hamlet Development, an arm of Murray-based Hamlet Homes, plans to break ground in 30 to 45 days for the first major commercial office building in its $140 million, 30-acre mixed-use Birkhill at Fireclay development in Murray.

Company CEO and founder Michael Brodsky said the approximately 35,000 square foot Class A office building will be located at 4241 S Main St. and was two-thirds pre-leased before architect James Glascock had completed designing it. The three-story structure's top two levels have been spoken for, while the ground level is being marketed by Coldwell Banker Commercial NRT, he said.

If two of the three floors have already been least they should add another floor or two to the building.
Still I think this building will look nice if it will look anything like the other Fireclay buildng.

[delts145]

A hospital for Draper
http://www.sltrib.com/southvalley/ci_10391629


Above, a crumpled door is one of the few recognizable features of a home that once stood at 202 E. and 11800 S. in Draper which will soon become the site of the medical campus, Mountainstar HealthCare. (Francisco Kjolseth/The Salt Lake Tribune)


An artist's rendering, right, shows the planned Lone Peak Medical Office Building in Draper. The facility is expected to open in late 2009.

The 40-acre site eventually will be home to Draper's first hospital. Currently, the closest hospitals are Alta View Hospital in Sandy and Jordan Valley Medical Center in West Jordan.
"The population out in the Draper market and in that area has been growing for a number of years," said Mark Meadows, MountainStar's vice president of development, noting Draper and surrounding cities have a population of 250,000. "We feel that's an area that needs to be served."


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[delts145]

Park City - City Hall hires architect - Kayla Sintz arrives as officials are readying to update the rules in Old Town

http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_1039195...ce=most_viewed



...In her mind, Old Town should not be looked at block by block or street by street. As City Hall prepares to finalize a controversial update of the guidelines that regulate house designs in Old Town, Sintz says people should envision the many streets and houses that make up the neighborhood.

"It's not a single building. It's this building amongst a whole group of buildings," Sintz says.

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[SLC Projects]

Sandy vs. SLC
County to weigh in on battle for Broadway-class playhouse
By Rosemary Winters
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 09/08/2008 06:50:02 AM MDT
In the ongoing Salt Lake City-vs.-Sandy melodrama to capture Utah's first big Broadway-class theater, Salt Lake County is about to throw in its own plot twist.
This week, a draft of the county's much-hyped cultural-facilities master plan is expected to go to the County Council, with a final version being made public later this month. Besides examining other arts venues and visions, the $200,000 study takes a regional look at two key mega-theater questions: Does the Salt Lake Valley need a large playhouse? And where might one best be built?
Thus far, the county has stayed neutral in the Great Theater Chase, urging Sandy and Salt Lake City to wait for the results of the master plan.
This study won't settle the score between the dueling communities, but it could illuminate some of the following points on the theater playbill:


Does Utah need a big theater?
Salt Lake City and Sandy have produced studies that show a 2,400-plus-seat theater could thrive in the valley.
Salt Lake County's master plan will take a closer look at whether it's really needed. Some observers in the arts community argue that Salt Lake City already has two, smaller theaters that host touring Broadway acts: Kingsbury Hall and the Capitol Theatre.


But Bill Becker - Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker's Tony-award-winning, musical-producing brother - and other mega-theater backers argue that first runs of blockbusters like "The Lion King" and "Wicked" skip over the Salt Lake Valley because the area lacks a larger stage with a roomier auditorium.


Where should a big, Broadway stage go?
Salt Lake City and Sandy both are moving ahead with plans to score Utah's first 2,400-plus theater.
Salt Lake City boasts the convenience and "synergy" of having multiple arts venues, restaurants and hotels clustered downtown. Research has shown Broadway-style theaters are more likely to flourish in urban cores.
But Sandy already has lined up a site, near Interstate 15, and a developer willing to build a 2,700-seat playhouse. Sandy points to demographic research that shows a high concentration of potential theatergoers in the valley's south end. The suburban site would be more convenient to those residents and arts lovers from Utah County.


What if Sandy or Salt Lake City hit higher notes in the county's review? Will one city have to give up its dreams of hosting first-run, Broadway shows?
Well, no. The county could help one theater get off the ground by providing some funding, but it has no power to shut down Salt Lake City's or Sandy's Broadway schemes.
Neither Sandy nor the capital is showing any signs of backing down. It's likely market forces will determine whether either or both get built. The cities will have to spar for an operator (only a few companies run Broadway-type facilities), jockey for touring shows and duel for patrons.
Sandy Mayor Tom Dolan has maintained there is "only room for one [large] theater" in the county. And Scott McQuarrie, whose Proscenium Development Inc. is building Sandy's playhouse, concedes that having two giant theaters would hurt the viability of both.


Who would cough up the cash to build a big theater?
Orem-based Proscenium Development Inc. plans to build Sandy's $50-million-plus theater with private dollars. But Sandy has agreed to use redevelopment money to buy the playhouse through a long-term, lease-to-own agreement. The suburb says it doesn't need Salt Lake County's help - but it would, of course, be welcome.
Salt Lake City expects its theater to cost at least $64 million. Funds could include $16 million of federal New Market Tax credits, redevelopment dollars and county support. The capital also expects to sell naming rights, tap corporate sponsors and rake in revenue from ticket sales, surcharges and facility fees.


When could a Broadway-style theater open?
Proscenium Development plans to debut its Broadway-style stage in fall 2011 near 10100 South and Interstate 15. The theater would anchor the first phase of The Proscenium, which boasts a planned 40-story high-rise with condos, offices and a hotel.
A Salt Lake City playhouse also could open as soon as 2011 - more likely it would be 2012 - but the capital still lags behind Sandy.
It has yet to secure a downtown site. Four finalists are in the running, and Salt Lake City expects to announce the winning locale in the next six weeks.
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[TANGELD_SLC]

GAWL I hate Sandy. Why do they have to be such retards? THE THEATRE BELONGS IN SALT LAKE CITY!
We are bigger, we are MUCH more culturally diverse and we are more acessible.

I hope the county puts them in their place..... dorks.

[delts145]

I honestly don't see Sandy backing down at all, and Salt Lake City certainly is not going to. The good news is we're going to end up with two theatres equipped for the larger productions. Contrary to the predictions of some, I think both could do well. I think Sandy will have to really get creative and develop several family type niches.

[delts145]

'Wasatch Back' growing fast

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...257356,00.html


Aerial View, Heber Valley, City of Midway



MIDWAY — The Heber Valley — known locally as the "Wasatch Back" — has been among the fastest-growing areas in northern Utah over the past several years. The area, which includes Wasatch and Summit counties, has seen its population jump 25 percent and its average home sales price nearly double since 2002...

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[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by delts145

I honestly don't see Sandy backing down at all, and Salt Lake City certainly is not going to. The good news is we're going to end up with two theatres equipped for the larger productions. Contrary to the predictions of some, I think both could do well. I think Sandy will have to really get creative and develop several family type niches.

I agree. If anything this race will get both cities to move alot faster with getting a theater built.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

If anything this race will get both cities to move alot faster with getting a theater built.

Ditto Projects!!!