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Old Posted Feb 1, 2013, 3:58 PM
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It would rather have them doing it well Blanchard's project and Connaught project is being built to minimize the impact of Gore Park's closure.
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It would rather have them doing it well Blanchard's project and Connaught project is being built to minimize the impact of Gore Park's closure.
We have no idea if and when Blanchard's project will be built. I'm hoping the Connaught works out, but I'm skeptical where the money is going to come from to finance 700 or 900 units or whatever it is. It seems to be changing a bit, but you can never be certain a project is going to go ahead in Hamilton until the crane is up.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2013, 3:37 PM
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Farr's motion to have Gore Park Master plan part of 2013 Budget passed.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2013, 3:51 PM
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does that mean it will start construction this year?
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2013, 4:22 PM
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No, first city staff and council will need to work on funding first for 2013.
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Gore Park

85 per cent of the trees in Gore Park are doomed

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/38...rk-are-doomed/

More than 85 per cent of the Gore's trees are being cut down as the downtown park faces a déjà vu massacre.

Only 11 of its 74 ash trees have been deemed salvageable as the city scrambles to battle an infestation of the emerald ash borer — an invasive beetle from Asia that has destroyed hundreds of thousands of ash trees across Ontario.

Nine ash trees have already come down in Gore Park.

Over the next 10 years, 54 more will share the same fate — and the city has yet to decide what will be planted in their place. What they can say for sure is the park will be bare for years as the canopy slowly grows back.

The emerald ash borer was first detected in Canada in 2002 in Windsor, where it killed nearly every ash tree in Essex County.

When the trees were planted, they were placed too close together, so there's no room to integrate new trees until the old come down, said Tami Sadonoja, the city's project manager of forest health.

Without a concrete plan for the replanting process, the city can't give an exact timeline on how long it will take for the new trees to grow to mature size.

"Our goal is to have the same amount of canopy that we have right now … but yes, that will take years," Sadonoja said.

Without its green canopy, Hamilton is facing a replay of 1983 when the city chopped all of the park's trees as part of a "Downtown Action Plan," sparking widespread outrage.

"We've been through a Gore Park tree massacre before. It was quite a scandal at the time," said local environmental activist Don McLean.

Maples, elms and birches — all were cut down and replaced with ash trees and walkways as the city aimed to make the park "more pedestrian-oriented and accessible," a city employee told The Spec at the time.

As it sets out to revamp the park once again, McMaster biology professor Jim Quinn advises the city to diversify the species of new trees going into the Gore.

"Planting any kind of monoculture is a stupid idea … the bottom line is to replace with other native species," he said.

"If they are all different species, then if you run into a pest like this you won't lose the whole forest."

The emerald ash borer was first detected in Canada in 2002 in Windsor, where it killed nearly every ash tree in Essex County. The bug also destroyed nearly all of the ash trees across lower Michigan.

The invasive pests — whose larvae burrow in and feed just under the bark, damaging the layer that transports water and nutrients throughout the tree — are expected to kill almost all of the 23,000 ash trees in the Hamilton area over the next decade.

McLean said action should've been taken when we first learned about the invader.

"Once we got reasonable info that this entire species was threatened, we could've started taking action to begin the replacement process … planting new trees in the expectation that they would grow to a reasonable size before we have to take the others down," he said.

In the fall, the city approved a $26.2-million plan to tackle EAB over the next decade. Of that, $100,000 per year will go toward injection treatment to protect existing trees, and $1.6 million per year will go toward tree removal across the city.

Jack Radecki, an arborist with the Ontario Urban Forest Council, said, "There are very few trees that can still be treated, unless they were treated two years ago. And if the tree is already infested, it cannot be treated."

In Gore Park, just 11 trees have been designated salvageable through the injection treatment — at a cost of roughly $200 a pop (which is required every two years), depending on the size of the tree.

The city will do its best to keep the remaining 54 trees as long as it can, Sadonoja said — but eventually, they will come down.

While officials haven't decided which species will replace the park's ash trees, Sadonoja said the city will definitely be planting a more diverse collection.

"I think we've learned a lot over the years in the industry, and you know there's been a number of pests and diseases that have gone through and wiped out entire species," she said.

Elsewhere in the city, the first phase of removal and injections is under way, with expectations to begin replanting this summer. A wide variety will be planted — including tulip trees, hackberries, Kentucky coffees and serviceberries.

These decisions are made on a case-by-case basis.

"It depends on a lot of things … underground utilities, lot size, overhead hydro, things like that," Sadonoja said.

Radecki encourages homeowners to look up facts about the emerald ash borer online and either treat or remove the ash trees on their properties.

No ash trees are safe from the EAB, he said.

"This insect has a very high potential for spread and insemination. You can have hundreds or thousands of adults come out of a single tree … and with good wind, they can blow five or 10 kilometres."

"It's hopeless, it really is hopeless now," he said.


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I know it might this idea might not be the favoured opinion on here, but I was thinking; why not add cherry blossoms to the park? Although, my organic-biology is a little hazy, I do recall them being Asiatic species that are much less succeptible to incoming pests of that region. Not to mention the fact, that their generally loved amongst the public, and have already been implemented in parks across North America. Once again, this is just a thought, and not a staunch position.
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I know it might this idea might not be the favoured opinion on here, but I was thinking; why not add cherry blossoms to the park? Although, my organic-biology is a little hazy, I do recall them being Asiatic species that are much less succeptible to incoming pests of that region. Not to mention the fact, that their generally loved amongst the public, and have already been implemented in parks across North America. Once again, this is just a thought, and not a staunch position.
As long as they plant a of mix of trees that provide a canopy, I'll be happy.
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I know it might this idea might not be the favoured opinion on here, but I was thinking; why not add cherry blossoms to the park? Although, my organic-biology is a little hazy, I do recall them being Asiatic species that are much less succeptible to incoming pests of that region. Not to mention the fact, that their generally loved amongst the public, and have already been implemented in parks across North America. Once again, this is just a thought, and not a staunch position.
Diversity of species is critical, not only because of resistance to pests but also because it's just more interesting. But I love the idea of one or more walkways bordered by cherry blossoms. I don't think we need to be completely obsessive about native species to the point where we fail to consider any non-native species.

There's a nice row of cherry blossom trees- gifts from Japan- at the entrance to Bayfront Park (up the hill from the parking area). A few of them are not doing quite as well as others, but it's a nice row of them and pleasant to walk under. One or more walkways like that would be nice in the Gore.
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"Our goal is to have the same amount of canopy that we have right now … but yes, that will take years," Sadonoja said.
Decades.


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As it sets out to revamp the park once again, McMaster biology professor Jim Quinn advises the city to diversify the species of new trees going into the Gore.

"Planting any kind of monoculture is a stupid idea … the bottom line is to replace with other native species," he said.

"If they are all different species, then if you run into a pest like this you won't lose the whole forest."
You'd think this kind of advice would have been given 30 years ago. We may not have expected the kinds of invasive species we see today, but wouldn't biologists have told you the same thing back then?
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I can't imagine there being much discussion at the time; there was certainly no public consultation on the matter. Jack just felt like cutting them down. He was a man of action, after all.

Here's a shot of the trees he turned into sawdust, some of which were 125+ years old and healthy:

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Here's another photo courtesy the Spectator showing the 'renewal' of Gore Park circa 1984:

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Another account of the 1983 massacre appears in (I'm not making this up) Colossal Canadian Failures, whose authors put the start date as July 18.
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Like any forest, a healthy urban forest is not just diverse in species, but in age. The city fails here imo. They transplant a batch of trees in one area, and then everyone wonders why they're all coming down at the same time. Forest management needs to be long-term planning. Planting, trimming and removing continuously.
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Another account of the 1983 massacre appears in (I'm not making this up) Colossal Canadian Failures, whose authors put the start date as July 18.
That book's a fun read, actually. Recommend it.
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Hindsight is always 20/20. The reality at the time was that the park was tired and in need of rejuvenation. Those trees that people lament the loss of were on their last legs.

The problem at the time was that city staff hi jacked the process and we were about to get something that council and the citizens of this city didn't want. What we eventually got was a patchwork just to get it out of the headlines.

At the time I was a member of the parks advisory committee and we had no idea what was going to happen. All people wanted was something that was more people friendly with benches and shade.
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Via Report 13-002 of the Task Force on Cleanliness and Security in the Downtown Core:

Mr. Norton provided an update on the work being done to Gore Park and indicated that staff are working on scheduling construction around the Pan Am Games. He indicated that Public Works staff are working in coordination with the owner with the Connaught on Streetscaping design. Mr. Norton discussed that a major challenge facing the Gore Park redevelopment is that there is no capital funding yet designated for the majority of the project.

We're about 20 months out, so unless funding is included in the 2014-15 Capital Budget, the bill will presumably go to private donors or await the next budget cycle. (That said, "around the Pan Am Games" is studiously vague.)

Also: Should we adjust our aesthetic expectations?
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Why can't we plant larger trees, not seedlings or 5 footers? So what if it costs more, its our focal point.
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Why can't we plant larger trees, not seedlings or 5 footers? So what if it costs more, its our focal point.
I'm all for it!
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