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Busy Bee · #**581** Posted **May 25, 2018, 2:19 PM**

Those Junior's folks have got to get an award for most foolish business decision of the century. Just look at that. Now they're stuck with a shitty building that apparently can't be redeveloped because of the tower and will look ridiculous and shitty for years to come. Wizards.

JSsocal · #**582** Posted **May 25, 2018, 2:58 PM**

See to them though its not shitty, to them its authentic

WhatTheHeck5205 · #**583** Posted **May 25, 2018, 4:05 PM**

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See to them though its not shitty, to them its authentic

I’d say this goes for the vast majority of NYers and visitors to the city tbh. Juniors is the kind of iconic NYC institution that makes people want to come here in the first place, which in turn drives the demand for new towers like this one—and part of the appeal of Junior’s is that it’s still in the original building, however crappy it may be. Plus, had they sold out, we would’ve probably ended up with a much shorter, fatter tower than the slender gem we’re getting. So Junior’s staying where it is is okay with me.

NYguy · #**584** Posted **May 25, 2018, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhatTheHeck5205

Plus, had they sold out, we would’ve probably ended up with a much shorter, fatter tower than the slender gem we’re getting. So Junior’s staying where it is is okay with me.

Not really. With the site comes a little more development rights, and the footprint is such that you wouldn't necessarily get a squatter tower. They could have gone boxy in either case, but this one was driven more by design.

Had Junior's sold, they were going to have a new home in the development. But as it is now, it will just be surrounded by more retail.

JSsocal · #**585** Posted **May 25, 2018, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhatTheHeck5205

I’d say this goes for the vast majority of NYers and visitors to the city tbh. Juniors is the kind of iconic NYC institution that makes people want to come here in the first place, which in turn drives the demand for new towers like this one—and part of the appeal of Junior’s is that it’s still in the original building, however crappy it may be. Plus, had they sold out, we would’ve probably ended up with a much shorter, fatter tower than the slender gem we’re getting. So Junior’s staying where it is is okay with me.

Agree with you on the general point, and in many cases the restaurant/business is 100% tied to the building they are in, (think mcsorleys, keens, el quijote, katz's).

Maybe its just my ambivalence to Juniors, or the fact that they're opening restaurants all over but I'm not wed to them in that building, they could have reopened in a redesigned space in the same location.

But really I don't have such a huge problem with the building so much as I find that billboard on top obnoxious..
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I actually think it'd be very cool to have some kind of old fashioned lit letter sign on top of juniors. Think the 'Kentile Floors', 'Pepsi-cola', 'essex house' sign - Looking over that prominent intersection.

RobEss · #**586** Posted **May 26, 2018, 1:10 AM**

Since we're all chiming in; I'd never heard of Junior's until I'd lived in NYC a good 4 years or so. It certainly wasn't known where I grew up in MD. I've never loved that building...

artspook · #**587** Posted **May 26, 2018, 6:22 AM**

thanks for that huge clear rendering on may 18th . .
(provided by NYguy) . .
the slight sexy deco setbacks up the sides are magnificent . .
and thank God in heaven forever,
for that irregular spikey Gotham crown !!!

aquablue · #**588** Posted **Jun 6, 2018, 3:11 AM**

The conventional option would have been trash. I'm glad the people behind this tower have some understanding of design bringing business to a location. Unlike some developers who value-engineer their product and it ends up being hated decades later.

toddguy · #**589** Posted **Jun 14, 2018, 1:05 PM**

Build it Build it Build it! My favorite in NYC.

TechTalkGuy · #**590** Posted **Jun 14, 2018, 5:53 PM**

Agreed.
This tower anchors Brooklyn and compliments the entire skyline (Jersey City included).

Zerton · #**591** Posted **Jun 14, 2018, 8:39 PM**

It's so crazy that the best new tower is going to be built in Brooklyn!

TechTalkGuy · #**592** Posted **Jun 14, 2018, 10:33 PM**

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It's so crazy that the best new tower is going to be built in Brooklyn!

Hey, why not Brooklyn?
Each borough should have complimentary skylines, IMO.

Brooklyn is famous for many things, from the Brooklyn Bagel to Nathan’s hot dogs to 9 DeKalb!

Barney Greengrass · #**593** Posted **Jun 14, 2018, 11:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy

Hey, why not Brooklyn?
Each borough should have complimentary skylines, IMO

Meanwhile, Staten Island can't even get a Ferris Wheel built

TechTalkGuy · #**594** Posted **Jun 15, 2018, 1:02 AM**

Thanks for the humor!

Barney Greengrass · #**595** Posted **Jun 15, 2018, 5:57 PM**

Fantastic news guys, I just walked by the site and saw a bunch of guys with "JDS" hardhats on so I chatted them up. According to them this is now full steam ahead! Phase one is done, partial demolition on the bank and stabilization of its walls, phase two is about to begin, the demolition of the remaining building on site. Phase three is excavation and building the tower, which they expect to start on by the middle of next month. They all seemed quite proud to be working on this one and were eager to chat.

yankeesfan1000 · #**596** Posted **Jun 15, 2018, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sloper

Fantastic news guys, I just walked by the site and saw a bunch of guys with "JDS" hardhats on so I chatted them up. According to them this is now full steam ahead! Phase one is done, partial demolition on the bank and stabilization of its walls, phase two is about to begin, the demolition of the remaining building on site. Phase three is excavation and building the tower, which they expect to start on by the middle of next month. They all seemed quite proud to be working on this one and were eager to chat.

My prayers have been answered. Thanks for the update!!!

Barney Greengrass · #**597** Posted **Jun 15, 2018, 7:30 PM**

They also said the delays were all due to DOB and construction logistics, but that the big picture has been worked out. It should rise rather quickly once they get underway due to the (relatively) small floor plates.

photoLith · #**598** Posted **Jun 15, 2018, 8:27 PM**

Fuck yeah! About time, I was getting nervous this one wasn't going to get built.

TechTalkGuy · #**599** Posted **Jun 16, 2018, 3:22 AM**

This good news deserves some renders to remind everyone why we are all excited for this!

chris08876 · #**600** Posted **Jun 16, 2018, 4:26 AM**

Flashbush is an experience. Has become a corridor that is a pleasure to drive down (when traffic is not insane like it usually is) and is quite an urban corridor if you will. If you want a good idea of what I mean, start at Grand Army Plaza, and drive down Flatbush. Get onto the extension and take the Manhattan Bridge down into Canal. Feels like a whole new city in the last 5 years. The amount of pedestrian traffic has really increased too. I recommend doing about 29 mph when the light turns green (not 25 but 29). I find that speed is ideal to beat the synchronized lights, meaning if done right, everytime you enter the box, the light will turn yellow, and it repeats as you go down the various blocks.

Or alternatively, walk the avenue.