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Old Posted Jan 7, 2022, 4:46 PM
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In the late 80s, it was a St Hubert's.
only the most godly restaurant chain to ever exist - st huberts was my favourite - I was not aware it was purpose made for that though - very unusual - although for st huberts maybe it was a common thing..
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Hamilton’s apartment market, especially outside of downtown, really wasn’t supportive of new apartments until very recently from my understanding and even now it’s very tight.

As I said, let’s wait and see the actual proposal. I’m sure SmartCentres is very aware of their Stoney Creek assets as one is half built out and the other is very underutilized. I guarantee you they’ve been itching to intensify them but the market simply hasn’t been supportive until now. Even now, SmartCentres probably has to build as cheap as they can to turn a profit basically. Doesn’t excuse surface parking, but as I said, let’s wait and see the actual proposal.
The vast majority of apartments in Hamilton are outside of the downtown and the vacancy rate in Hamilton has always been fairly low.

As for Smart Centres in Hamilton, they have a proposal to built residential units on part of the lot where the Walmart on Upper James is located. I don't know if there is a thread for that here but it was in the news a couple of years ago.
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only the most godly restaurant chain to ever exist - st huberts was my favourite - I was not aware it was purpose made for that though - very unusual - although for st huberts maybe it was a common thing..
There was a St. Hubert's at Dundurn and King as well, in the same plaza as Fortino's.
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There was a St. Hubert's at Dundurn and King as well, in the same plaza as Fortino's.
Sadly there are none left around - the closest is gatineau I believe - I went there when i traveled from halifax cross country back to ontario and it was just as wonderful as I remembered it
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Sadly there are none left around - the closest is gatineau I believe - I went there when i traveled from halifax cross country back to ontario and it was just as wonderful as I remembered it
Hello Hamilton dudes.

There are actually a couple of St-Hubert locations in eastern Ontario.

There is one just off the 401 in Cornwall.

Ottawa has 2 I believe. In the east end.

There is also a St-Hubert Express in Casselman off the 417. Not sure if it's just a take-out or if it also has a cafeteria-style dining area. It's not a full restaurant though.
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yeah the closer you get to quebec/ottawa the more still exist.
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GSP mini-site is up here:

https://www.gspgroup.ca/active-proje...redevelopment/



No surface parking as shown before and some at grade retail close to Centennial. 1150 units between all phases.
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No surface parking as shown before and some at grade retail close to Centennial. 1150 units between all phases.
Looks like mods can change thread title to
[Stoney Creek] 200 Centennial Pkwy N | 20+16+15+12+6+6 fl | 70m | Proposed
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[Stoney Creek] 200 Centennial Pkwy N | 20+16+15+12+6+6 fl | 70m | Proposed
Its actually 20+16+15+13+9+9.

Looks like there is 844 parking spots proposed, which seems about right for the area at a parking ratio of 0.74/unit considering the area residents seem to use vehicles at a slightly higher rate than 74%.

Looks like it will be 4 phases and have some commercial on the first floor.

Retail in Phase 1:
- Unit 1: 3324sqft
- Unit 2: 3244sqft
- Unit 3: 1968sqft

These 3 above will be two floors, whether that means 2 floor tall spaces or have a second usable floor I'm not sure.

Retail in Phase 3:
- Unit 1: 2104sqft
- Unit 2: 3991sqft
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2022, 5:21 PM
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Holy shit. I wasn't anticipating the development to look this large.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2022, 6:31 PM
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for a sense of scale, this development has a larger number of units than this development in Toronto:

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Still lots of "lot" there too for future phases.
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Still lots of "lot" there too for future phases.
Yep. Half of the top part of the lot is for Food Basics... and there's a whole section just for King's Buffet... and then a monster area of parking for Burger King. Have to believe some of that extra space will be sold and repurposed for some other development as well. Huge overkill for parking.
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I'd like to see the entire property redeveloped like this, include the grocery store in one of the bigger podiums with public underground parking for the retail separate from the residential parking. I'm liking what I am seeing so far though, it's a great start! Man Hamilton is on a roll there is no stopping this growth boom anytime soon!
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I'd like to see the entire property redeveloped like this, include the grocery store in one of the bigger podiums with public underground parking for the retail separate from the residential parking. I'm liking what I am seeing so far though, it's a great start! Man Hamilton is on a roll there is no stopping this growth boom anytime soon!
To be honest even as a kid I liked the open feeling of that corner with all the big apartment buildings framed in the background - I wouldn't want to see a giant build on that corner, it would feel like too much personally, esp since there is nothing huge like that along centennial - this is more a residential area - i'd spring for something more stepped down - that corner isn't a walkable area - its on one of the busiest corners of the city - having storefronts along street level wouldn't make sense here - that and you'd never get away with a build on that corner without a massive daylight triangle on the corner - imo, would just clog traffic. Centennial will never be a walkable calm road.. ever because it is one of THE most arterial roads in the city.

I don't mind the proposed build in the back where printer.ca and the old white rose used to be as that was always way back there and tucked away - but maybe its just because I grew up in stoney creek that anything huge here would just feel.. out of place if it went right to the corner.

Something like center mall might work on that corner there though - although being so close to the mall that might not make sense - still have parking but have some big box stores. Gotta feed all those apartment people still hehe, or even what they did farther up queenston where zellars used to be - put some restaurants out front (other than god-awful burger king) and modernize the strip - you definitely don't need all of that parking space anymore - but at the same time gotta still have some breathing room and not just plop huge builds on every square inch of land imo. This area does NOT suffer from a lack of urban density - there's enough people packed into this block with all the big apartments out back. There are at least 9 massive apartment buildings out back and plenty of townhouses

Upon saying that some manner of transformation of that corner would be cool - just nothing.. intimidating imo - something tastefully stepped down in height possibly. Maybe even something that has say a one story wraparound and you drive in in the center of each side to peruse, like a burloak entertainment center complex

I'll be happy to see the old futureshop finally demolished though.

I also feel bad for the views these people are going to have - this isn't the prettiest area to look down on, nor the quietest. At least right now it's not. Also when I went to school around here those apartments were considered the "poor" area of town. Drug busts, people crammed into living spaces, etc.

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Holy shit. Thats going to add a ton of residents to the area very quickly who are going to need improved transit service along the 44 Rymal route, although Eastgate is short walk away for the more active people. GO better get that station going soon too.
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Dang. That’s going to really change the look of the area and establish it as a proper urban node. I mean, it’s already one of the densest areas, if not the densest area, outside downtown, but it didn’t totally look it before.
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Holy shit. Thats going to add a ton of residents to the area very quickly who are going to need improved transit service along the 44 Rymal route, although Eastgate is short walk away for the more active people. GO better get that station going soon too.
This is a 4-phase development that just submitted for zoning permissions now. The soonest anyone's going to be living here will be 2026, and that will only be about 300-400 people. By the time 1150 households live here, it will be 15 years from now.
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The first phase is 590 units I believe, so likely about 1,000 people in the first buildings. But yea, that won't be until 2026 or 2027 at the earliest.
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