Metro Vancouver nightlife

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

Conclusion from all the comments:

1. City of Vancouver is dirt poor
2. The city can never garner any big corporate sponsors since we don't really have any
3. The only sizeable companies are developers but drawing out something from their CECs: hell no!
4. Small public events should not be tolerated: only big ones that cost millions

You guys are something. We shall continue to remain a boring city then.

I just don't believe that half a million dollars, or a portion, should be extracted from our CACs (which I'd imagine would take a long time to legal change the City's ability to use it for a new years party) for an event, of which, most monies would go towards police and security.

I was at the Halloween event at Britannia... thousands of people, didn't cost $500k, hardly a cop in sight pulling over-time hours. We can do events real easy without the big government handout. It is run every year by the Dust Flowerpot Cabaret, a non-profit that gets some grants to run as an arts society, and the Halloween event had a lot of volunteers and run off donations.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

I just don't believe that half a million dollars, or a portion, should be extracted from our CACs (which I'd imagine would take a long time to legal change the City's ability to use it for a new years party) for an event, of which, most monies would go towards police and security.

I was at the Halloween event at Britannia... thousands of people, didn't cost $500k, hardly a cop in sight pulling over-time hours. We can do events real easy without the big government handout. It is run every year by the Dust Flowerpot Cabaret, a non-profit that gets some grants to run as an arts society, and the Halloween event had a lot of volunteers and run off donations.

You just contradicted the others by saying that good events do not need to cost that much.

Hence, even a couple of thousands here and there can go a long way to make the cultural events here much better.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

You just contradicted the others by saying that good events do not need to cost that much.

Hence, even a couple of thousands here and there can go a long way to make the cultural events here much better.

To be fair we have no idea how the Halloween parade gets away with it every year and it never seems to be a riot. They don't need to close streets and use mostly the community centre "alleys" and the sports fields. Public money as a part of the standard grant system? Yes, I am a firm believer of that and it is wildly underfunded from all levels of government. CAC money. No. Hard stop.

All of the best events that I go to in Vancouver are either low budget and / or run by non-profits. I would have gone to Formula-E but... ya know.

[GenWhy?]

If you want more grant money to be available then that's great, but it won't come from the CAC pot. Grant money from the City (if I recall) comes from property taxes.

[GenWhy?]

Aside from fireworks what would people even want from an outdoor New Years event in Vancouver?

I'm only familiar with events in places that are cold and your options are unlimited outdoors.

[chowhou]

CACs should under no circumstances ever be used to pay for recurring costs. It's not sustainable.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

Aside from fireworks what would people even want from an outdoor New Years event in Vancouver?

I'm only familiar with events in places that are cold and your options are unlimited outdoors.

Obviously we should revisit Vancouver's finest hour - December 31 2001, Flybanger, Default and Nickelback playing an outdoor FOXFEST concert at the Plaza of Nations. The only 'beer' available was Coors Light.

All three bands still exist, CFOX is still on the air and Coors are still brewing. The stage isn't there, but nothing has replaced it, but something temporary should be possible. It could return every year until the bands retire, or they finally develop the Plaza of Nations.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Obviously we should revisit Vancouver's finest hour - December 31 2001, Flybanger, Default and Nickelback playing an outdoor FOXFEST concert at the Plaza of Nations. The only 'beer' available was Coors Light.

All three bands still exist, CFOX is still on the air and Coors are still brewing. The stage isn't there, but nothing has replaced it, but something temporary should be possible. It could return every year until the bands retire, or they finally develop the Plaza of Nations.

Ture and with decent rain protection.

Plaza would be not bad as security might be minimal... compared to say a Granville shut down, etc.

[whatnext]

Speaking of sketchy nightlife, what the heck is going on at that club under the Arthur Laing Bridge? What kind of clientele does it attract?!

Stabbing reported at Gallery nightclub amid ongoing concerns: Vancouver police
By Hana Mae Nassar
Posted November 6, 2023 11:55 am. Last Updated November 6, 2023 12:30 pm.

There’s been another violent incident at the Gallery nightclub in South Vancouver, adding to further concerns in the area.

Vancouver police say they received reports of a stabbing inside the club on SW Marine Drive early Saturday, around 1:30 a.m.

According to the VPD, several officers responded and found a 19-year-old man who had “a cut to his head.”

Sgt. Steve Addison tells CityNews the victim, who suffered minor injuries, “has chosen not to participate in the police investigative process at this point.”

“Which is unfortunate, however, we’re hoping that the person will, at some point, choose to participate to assist with the investigation. That said, even without the person’s participation, we’re more than willing to continue — and we will continue — to investigate, to collect evidence to identify the person or people responsible for this,” he explained.

The reported stabbing comes just a week after two men were shot at outside of Gallery, which is located just under the Arthur Laing Bridge, in the early morning hours of Oct. 29.....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/11/06/vancouver-gallery-nightclub-stabbing/

[Migrant_Coconut]

IDK what the big deal is with losing the New Year's fireworks - they were kind of ass to begin with.

We've got a much bigger, better display (still sponsored by Honda) three nights a year at a time when it's not freezing cold, and unlike Canada Place, there's a chance of most people actually getting a good spot. That's more than enough.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

IDK what the big deal is with losing the New Year's fireworks - they were kind of ass to begin with.

We've got a much bigger, better display (still sponsored by Honda) three nights a year at a time when it's not freezing cold, and unlike Canada Place, there's a chance of most people actually getting a good spot. That's more than enough.

Yes I agree with this take.

I find it more disappointing we can't have a decent Santa Claus parade, if we're talking about holiday events in the City.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by GenWhy?

To be fair we have no idea how the Halloween parade gets away with it every year and it never seems to be a riot. They don't need to close streets and use mostly the community centre "alleys" and the sports fields. Public money as a part of the standard grant system? Yes, I am a firm believer of that and it is wildly underfunded from all levels of government. CAC money. No. Hard stop.

All of the best events that I go to in Vancouver are either low budget and / or run by non-profits. I would have gone to Formula-E but... ya know.

The Halloween parade is not widely publicized, and therefore not attracting the hoards of rioters like the Stanley Cup or even the annual fireworks does. Many of our fellow kinfolks here can't behave and like to break things: perhaps way too many alcoholics or substance abusers in this fine city, including its burbs.

Formula E event without lots of cops will end up in racing-car toppling and burning. Hence the budget for tight security.

CAC is just a suggestion. Frankly speaking, as long as the City can support arts and culture here, but I doubt this can happen anytime soon since big businesses that can provide sponsorships and tax money find no incentives to locate in Vancouver. This City is also known to be hostile to big businesses, as well as moms-and-pops.

[Vin]

stanley park christmas train and bright nights return this holiday season
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/stanley-park-christmas-train

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Ken Sim is really kicking Kennedy Stewart and Greg Robertson's butts.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Disney, Sony, Microsoft, Amazon, Telus, TD, HSBC and others seem to think otherwise. No corporate festivity =/= bad business climate.

Meanwhile, the Celebration of Light outdoes the Santa Claus Parade and Canada Place fireworks put together, and Khatsahlano, Car-Free Days, the Sun Run, the Pride Parade and other community-sponsored events are still going strong.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

The Halloween parade is not widely publicized, and therefore not attracting the hoards of rioters like the Stanley Cup or even the annual fireworks does. Many of our fellow kinfolks here can't behave and like to break things: perhaps way too many alcoholics or substance abusers in this fine city, including its burbs.

Formula E event without lots of cops will end up in racing-car toppling and burning. Hence the budget for tight security.

CAC is just a suggestion. Frankly speaking, as long as the City can support arts and culture here, but I doubt this can happen anytime soon since big businesses that can provide sponsorships and tax money find no incentives to locate in Vancouver. This City is also known to be hostile to big businesses, as well as moms-and-pops.

I think in summary large localized events are the way to go. Cheaper too. Not sure what having corporate sponsorship for the arts has to do with a thriving arts and culture scene though. Isn't more corporatism bad for arts and culture - like Low Tide converting industrial space (as a small exmaple)?

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by Vin

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Ken Sim is really kicking Kennedy Stewart and Greg Robertson's butts.

I'd read the whole article.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Vin

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Ken Sim is really kicking Kennedy Stewart and Greg Robertson's butts.

$500 thousand in corporate donations; Ken and ABC just took the credit. I suppose you think he came up with the BC Family Benefit too?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

$500 thousand in corporate donations; Ken and ABC just took the credit. I suppose you think he came up with the BC Family Benefit too?

Sure but easy to see how Sim is in a much better place to attract corporate donations. Like I said, see where council votes go on issues important to those that donated.

[GenWhy?]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Sure but easy to see how Sim is in a much better place to attract corporate donations. Like I said, see where council votes go on issues important to those that donated.

"Sewer capacity is at its max on the West Side... we can't densify that area. Only East Van has sufficient sewer capacity".

My crystal ball.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

$500 thousand in corporate donations; Ken and ABC just took the credit. I suppose you think he came up with the BC Family Benefit too?

LOL, and you think Kennedy Stewart and his gang at Parks arranged that donation money?