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Old Posted Jan 25, 2018, 6:39 PM
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NIMBYism in chicago amounts to jack shit if the alderman's wheels have been adequately greased.

and it sounds like they may have been in this case.




in fact there is only one "to the roof" 1,300'+ skyscraper anywhere in the western hemisphere outside of NYC: the sears tower.

O'Reilly also emphasized, that as a slender tower, it will have less density, mitigating the impact on the neighborhood.

It's just off Michigan Avenue. This would be such a great addition, assuming the design is up to spec.
     
     
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Chicago is starting to get ballsy again with the supertalls. Maybe like a second supertall cycle like the early 70s?

How about Wolf Point 3 stretching about 50 feet and Related with an announcement on the Spire site.

Sorry, getting greedy.
     
     
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From the article, it looks like this might have some fierce NIMBY responses.

Let's just say its to the roof, its a game changer, really for the U.S.. Not many "too the roof" super talls rising outside of the East Coast past the 1300 ft mark.
The alderman seems tentatively onboard with a big tower here. And with a good design, perhaps neighborhood angst can be tempered? After all, the Spire survived any neighborhood NIMBY groups in this area to receive city approval. Presumably neighbors recognized it would be an iconic structure. The same could be said for this development as well if the design is top shelf.
     
     
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Nice! Great location for something this tall. This will really make an impact if built!








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^ excellent!

thanks for whipping that up so fast.
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Fierce NIMBY responses? Where the hell do you get that from?

10023, very little market for office space here. Too far from the train stations; not even convenient to the L. Remember that several buildings in this area (900 N. Michigan, 645 St. Clair, London Guaranty, 75 E. Wacker, IBM, Tribune, Trump prior to construction) have gone from office to hotel or residential.
     
     
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Fierce NIMBY responses? Where the hell do you get that from?

10023, very little market for office space here. Too far from the train stations; not even convenient to the L. Remember that several buildings in this area (900 N. Michigan, 645 St. Clair, London Guaranty, 75 E. Wacker, IBM, Tribune, Trump prior to construction) have gone from office to hotel or residential.
Its across the river from Illinois Center/Loop and a short walk (3-4 blocks) from the Grand and State subway station. Office space doesn't make sense everywhere in downtown Chicago, but I think it does here.
     
     
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Its across the river from Illinois Center/Loop and a short walk (3-4 blocks) from the Grand and State subway station.
The submarket where office vacancy rates are between 12 and 15 percent, by far the highest in the CBD.
     
     
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The submarket where office vacancy rates are between 12 and 15 percent, by far the highest in the CBD.
I was just saying I dont think transit is a problem, imo.
     
     
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I was just saying I dont think transit is a problem, imo.
But it is, because the Red Line only serves the city lakefront. Office growth for the last 30 years has been pulled to the West Loop to be near the two important suburban stations (the other two Metra stations don't serve the suburbs executives favor nowadays) and the expressways. That's pulled office space away from the L lines, creating a problem for city residents.
     
     
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NIMBYs won't bring this down. Only financial issues potentially could, like most supertalls
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Really an amazing central core boom going on in Chicago, dichotomy between declining overall city population and inner core growth seems unprecedented in America.
     
     
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If this gets built and the mouth of the river fills in with the planned river east buildings.....the trip down the river is going to look amazing. The view from the lake is going to have nice big grouping of tall buildings in the center now! Love it
     
     
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Holy crap! Adrian Smith returns to designing in his hometown in one hell of a grand fashion!

Any idea on when renderings or elevations might be released?
     
     
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Can an admin give this thread a Chicago tag? Also, the Chicago Economic News thread as well, please and thank you!
     
     
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Looking at the site on Streetview from LSD and Columbus, they could build a lowrise on the southern portion of the lot up to about 5 stories before they infringed on views of the tower itself. They'd only be blocking the old printing building.
     
     
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It's only 158 condos. Selling 50 units in the heart of Chicago doesn't sound too hard.
     
     
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It's only 158 condos. Selling 50 units in the heart of Chicago doesn't sound too hard.
It's a lot when there's a market correction and the banks decide they need to retrench. They're selling those units against OBP, Vista, Wolf Point South, One Chicago Square, and whatever else in smaller buildings in that same submarket.

If it was no problem then we'd have supertalls springing up at the rate of a few per year every year, and we don't.
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