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Old Posted Apr 14, 2016, 10:40 PM
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What's that multi-coloured monolith thing sitting in the middle of the sidewalk?
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There is retail space, potentially already spoken for, from what I've heard.
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Isn't the former food court (now fitness centre) under the parkade?
If so they could be a "proper" entrance down to the mall and Canada Line from the new office tower lobby
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The pic shows the parking entrance -
Remember the exitsing parkade already has an entrance on Seymour - no different, really.



Here's the ground floor plans from the DP application -

It'll actually remove the alley that currently exists between Vancouver Centre tower and the parkade
(which leads to the London Drug loading area)

The driveway shown above is really a replacement alley and the parkade entrance in off the alley and the replacement alley.

You can also see double escalators descending to the mall from the office lobby.



From this plan, you can see that only a part of the old food court was under the parkade (or more likely, under the old alley)
(now occupied by the fitness centre changerooms)


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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 1:27 AM
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yeah, but

OD, your point is well made and I can see how well the parkade entrance looks. Seems ok. Hope it gets underway asap. Too bad no harmony whatsoever with beige and white of its neighbor, but otherwise a nice cool bit of infill, ... if it is, in fact, considered infill.
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Earlier in the thread there was a comment that the owner is considering recladding Scotia Tower.
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The article clearly addressed that: The total parking proposed just about meets the requirements here, with 7 underground floors of parking and 5 above grade. The developers appear to be anticipating those requirements coming down in future, as 65,000 of the above grade parking is designed to potentially convert to additional office space.
Great call. Though today it looks like parking needs may be dropping in 10 years we may all be taking autonomous electric cars to work and they may be just as high if not higher. This compromise best positions this tower for the needs of today and tomorrow.

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Isn't there even a direct entrance to the Skytrain station somewhere very nearby?
This will be directly connected indoors to skytrain (City Centre Station) and via Pacific Centre to Granville.

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Earlier in the thread there was a comment that the owner is considering recladding Scotia Tower.
It will likely need to happen at some point in the near-medium term future. A lot of the office stock built around that time is facing sealing failures etc... The Scoita bank building won't be the only one performing a glazing replacement/reclad in the next 10 years.
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It will likely need to happen at some point in the near-medium term future. A lot of the office stock built around that time is facing sealing failures etc... The Scoita bank building won't be the only one performing a glazing replacement/reclad in the next 10 years.
Let's just hope that when they reclad the Scotia and TD towers they don't get forced to change the glass to something clear....
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Let's just hope that when they reclad the Scotia and TD towers they don't get forced to change the glass to something clear....
Of course they will be. The city's goal is to homogenize the entire city so that it's uniformly drab.
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OD, your point is well made and I can see how well the parkade entrance looks. Seems ok. Hope it gets underway asap. Too bad no harmony whatsoever with beige and white of its neighbor, but otherwise a nice cool bit of infill, ... if it is, in fact, considered infill.
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Earlier in the thread there was a comment that the owner is considering recladding Scotia Tower.
OD, you mentioned recladding the Scotia Tower. Would this in any way help "unclash" the colour echemes of the buildings as now planned?
I would hope that an attempt to harmonize would have been made, both in colour and structual design. They remain totally different species regarding structure.
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Old Posted May 5, 2016, 1:09 AM
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OD, you mentioned recladding the Scotia Tower. Would this in any way help "unclash" the colour echemes of the buildings as now planned?
I would hope that an attempt to harmonize would have been made, both in colour and structual design. They remain totally different species regarding structure.
I think the designs are so different from one another that they shouldn't be harmonized - they can stand as separate towers when viewed from afar.
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Haven't you noticed that many in Vancouver cannot stomach having more malls or large retail structures built downtown?
That's kind of true, but what I think perhaps what people might be seeking are small, intimate shopping centres, like Hazelton Lanes or Cumberland Terrace in Toronto.

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I think the designs are so different from one another that they shouldn't be harmonized - they can stand as separate towers when viewed from afar.
Hey, you're right, in fact. I as thinking too 'close up'
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From Changing City Updates -

... the cheapening....why not just have the curtain wall come straight down, without the flaring out?
Note also the new canopy for the Scotia Tower.


https://changingcitybook.com/2016/12...eymour-street/

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Looks like this building is back in the news and, yes, the plan calls for keeping the above ground parkade:




Source: https://changingcitybook.com/
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That's kind of true, but what I think perhaps what people might be seeking are small, intimate shopping centres, like Hazelton Lanes or Cumberland Terrace in Toronto.
that is what south Granville is for and is very popular.
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I like how the sidewalk opens up at the plaza area. Hopefully that area will be more welcoming to pedestrians in the future.
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I got this in the mail today.



May 2 '16, my pic
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I really don't see how Great West Life (owner) doesn't recognize / or jump on the opportunity to add onto the Georgia & Granville corner retail with a multi-level retail space.
(i.e. extend a taller podium (5 storeys) from Scotia Tower to the corner)
I wonder how long London Drugs' lease is?

Even Pacific Centre wants to build on its plazas.
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I really don't see how Great West Life (owner) doesn't recognize / or jump on the opportunity to add onto the Georgia & Granville corner retail with a multi-level retail space.
(i.e. extend a taller podium (5 storeys) from Scotia Tower to the corner)
I wonder how long London Drugs' lease is?

Even Pacific Centre wants to build on its plazas.
Maybe there is a limit to what they can build - sort of like the limitations to Pacific Centre's rotunda plaza?

Regardless, I agree. You'd think at the very least they would want to overhaul the space and maximize its potential. And improve it's street-level presence...
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It is very odd to me as well how the proponent wouldn't take advantage of the huge demand for large format retail and build a larger podium... Simons, Uniqlo, Saks... even Loblaw CityMarket wants to get into the downtown core and are having troubles finding suitable space. It would also help animate this block which is pretty dark and dead.
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It is very odd to me as well how the proponent wouldn't take advantage of the huge demand for large format retail and build a larger podium... Simons, Uniqlo, Saks... even Loblaw CityMarket wants to get into the downtown core and are having troubles finding suitable space. It would also help animate this block which is pretty dark and dead.
Haven't you noticed that many in Vancouver cannot stomach having more malls or large retail structures built downtown?
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