Telus Garden | 135m, 88m | 46fl res, 22fl office | 928,000sqft | Completed

[wrenegade]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

So, awvan, if these are the 600-foot towers you were referring to in the rumours thread, why was your inside info so completely wrong?

It was a rumour, and I posted it as such. I did say that it didn't really seem possible to do two 600 footers because of the viewcones, but I am disappointed to see it only being 22 and 43 stories. I also did not know that there would be residential on the site, but I suppose we shouldn't be surprised, it is Vancouver of course. And I'm not sure why it was wrong. It was second hand info that supposedly came from Gillespie himself, perhaps it was his original vision for the site? I held back on the other info (developer/architect/client) at the time because I wasn't sure of the info, but thought it was worth passing onto SSP.

[dleung]

The boot in Burnaby has 640,000 square feet in a 21-storey complex of two buildings. How can they possibly fit that space, let alone a million square feet, in a 22-storey office tower downtown? That's foot-ball field sized floorplates.

[LeftCoaster]

Say what you will about Henriquez, but his projects are not dull. I understand you dont like them because they dont look like they belong on coruscant, but if you are going to criticize someone at least get it right.

[vanlaw]

That would probably make it similar height to 401 West Georgia - Accenture Building - which is 22 floors. 87m/285ft

[Yume-sama]

You don't suppose they'd use the moving of a major corporate HQ in to Vancouver as leverage to get 43 floors, do you ?

[phesto]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

You don't suppose they'd use the moving of a major corporate HQ in to Vancouver as leverage to get 43 floors, do you ?

It's not the height, it's the residential density which is prohibited in the zoning.

Over the past 5 years the City has set up policy to prohibit residential in the CBD area (which includes most of this block). The policy states that commercial capacity has to be maximized before residential will be considered.

The only way I could see them getting away with it is to include some major affordable housing component or cultural amenity...even then it's a stretch.

[SpikePhanta]

Can't wait to see renders! I wonder what type of retail they'll put, it will only add to the vibe of that part of robson even more! Also maybe a new White Spot flagship to replace the one facing Georgia?

[Yume-sama]

Ooh, maybe we can have some more unique restaurants like another Earls or Cactus Club, too.

To me it makes perfect sense why Telus is only building 22 floors office. It's for them, nobody else.

And it's certainly better than a parkade.

[SpikePhanta]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Ooh, maybe we can have some more unique restaurants like another Earls or Cactus Club, too.

To me it makes perfect sense why Telus is only building 22 floors office. It's for them, nobody else.

And it's certainly better than a parkade.

Wait maybe Boston Pizza?

I hate Boston Pizza, but they don't have a downtown location I think.
And plus the Keg, Earls, Cactus clubs, Moxies are already close to that location. I would love to see something like Cactus Club Duinsmuir but White Spot.

I have a feeling the building might look like Bentall 5 phase one. Fat and short but still good looking.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by SpikePhanta

Wait maybe Boston Pizza?

I hate Boston Pizza, but they don't have a downtown location I think.
And plus the Keg, Earls, Cactus clubs, Moxies are already close to that location. I would love to see something like Cactus Club Duinsmuir but White Spot.

I have a feeling the building might look like Bentall 5 phase one. Fat and short but still good looking.

What we really need downtown is a TGIFriday's

Also bring back Hooters.

[squeezied]

Question about the site. Not sure if it has been mentioned, but what is the extent of the proposal on this block? Does it include the Telus building? Easypark? Or the entire block?

[golog]

• 520 W Georgia. That address suggests the NE corner of the block, does Telus own the land for the easy park parkade? That lot is ~225' x 125' = 28,125, said to be the location of the 22fl office component while residential is elsewhere on the block (probably SE corner?)
225x125x22= 618,750 sq ft
The SE corner is ~240' long, 240x125=30,000
1mn sq ft total is probably out of range, but in that neighbourhood is possible?
Telus would retain all of its recently upgraded buildings on Seymour, and if built in phases they wouldn't lose any private parking.
• Is there anything behind the timing of this announcement, related to Pattison's? If everyone is surprised to see it mentioned early, maybe the city is behind the leak? It does seem like a swing in momentum towards office space with the current mix of projects, to be just explained by market factors
• The real gem of the area will be the redevelopment of the Canada Post building right across from the Library, but if the new Telus office space is large enough to actually consolidate jobs from other provinces, that new foot traffic will change the area in its own right.

[Yume-sama]

Short and fat, or, it could be only "technically" 22 floors like the 272m NTT DoCoMo Building in Tokyo is technically only 27 floors and doubles as their HQ + a cell tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTT_Docomo_Yoyogi_Building

That would be unlike anything we've ever seen before! Though, I'm guessing he just means it's a different shade of sea foam green.

[urbandreamer]

Here's what I think it'll be: 22 floors of offices covering entire site; residential tower on top of half the office building.

[officedweller]

Yeah, that's the dumbest aspect of the two policies - especially when the view cones cover practically all of the core. That's why the higher buildings sites pop up in the oddest places (Pattison; Granville Loops)

[Architype]

It's interesting, but I hope they can come up with something better, it looks like a bunch of equipment in a rack about to fall over.

[Some guy]

Originally Posted by Architype

It's interesting, but I hope they can come up with something better, it looks like a bunch of equipment in a rack about to fall over.

I was thinking the same, from a few angles it looks like it is in the process of falling over.

[officedweller]

The office tower still has a fairly small floorplate size.

Looks like high tech - from the 1980s

Think drawings of Concord Pacific's initial office district where Spectrum and Rogers Arena are now located.
What's with the stacked towers?

Compare:


http://www.thehulbertgroup.com/conco...ific_place.php


http://www.dysarchitecture.com/_file...ific_place.pdf

Sadly, the V-struts on the office tower remind me of the wimpy V-struts on the VanCity Tower @ Main Street.

http://www.glasssteelandstone.com/Im...entre-002a.jpg

Originally Posted by dleung

Apparently the green strategy is to tilt all the southwest/southeast faces inward for less solar gain, while doing the opposite for the northeast/northwest facades...

However, they have the west facade angled back. I can tell you that during the summer, the west facade (ie. facing the alley and Seymour) will heat up a lot! - it does in TD Tower, but still not as much as the south side, which they have as vertical in that rendering.

[EastVanMark]

I wish some of those had been built instead of the redundant crap that is usually built nowadays

[Yume-sama]

lol I refuse to believe that is it. It can't possibly conceivably be.....