NEW YORK | 24–19 Jackson Avenue | 676 FT | 55 FLOORS

[JSsocal]

The parking lot on the south side already has a new 12ish story building rising, if not topped out already. But for sure it would definitely be nice to take that large parking lot from the office building next door

As an aside these are strange tracks- even though they travel under Jackson blvd they dead end just past the street. (Formerly they went to the east river gantry in Hunter's point). These then must solely be used for occasional storage

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by JSsocal

The parking lot on the south side already has a new 12ish story building rising, if not topped out already.

Not surprised. There is so much construction going on in Long Island City, things are rapidly changing. I don't get the requirement here for open space, the site isn't very large. A single mixed-use tower development with a small plaza perhaps. Could be pretty significant, at least enough to be seen on the LIC skyline. There's a lot to fulfill in the RFP.


At 1:34 you get a glimpse of the site in relation to all of the construction...


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[NYguy]

Cue the typical, knee-jerk NIMBYism...


http://sunnysidepost.com/nolan-claims-th...citys-plan-to-develop-hunters-point-site

Nolan claims that LIC’s infrastructure is too stretched for big development, opposes city’s plan to develop Hunters Point site





January 24, By Hannah Wulkan

Assemblywoman Cathy Nolan came out strongly today against the city’s plan to develop a large-scale building over a LIRR rail yard site in Long Island City.

The criticism comes a day after the city announced that it is looking for a third-party developer to build a structure that includes retail space and housing units over the LIRR tracks at 11-24 Jackson Avenue. The city put out a request for developer proposals Monday.

The site, bordered by 21st Street, Jackson Avenue and 49th Avenue, is 58,000 square feet and is currently owned by the city and used as storage space for the LIRR.

“This project has high probability to be outsized and not right for Long Island City. I oppose such overdevelopment,” Nolan said. “Considering the size of the site and its proximity to other large scale development in Long Island City there must be a better plan to increase basic services before such large scale development is considered.”

Nolan pointed out that in order for the project to be profitable, a developer would likely have to rezone the site to build taller than the 125 feet currently permitted, and guessed that the development would reach between 50 and 60 stories.

The RFP states that a developer would be required to build over the existing LIRR rail yard on the site, similar to what the development of Sunnyside Yards would entail. The RFP looks for the development to include mixed income housing, retail and commercial space, and a community facility.

Nolan has opposed large developments in the past. She came out against the Sunnyside Yards project when it was first proposed in 2015, saying that the massive project would be out of context and could not be supported by the infrastructure in place.

She expressed concern about overcrowding of the area contributing to sewage backup in to Newtown Creek, and added, “I feel that we are now playing catch-up. Our schools remain the most overcrowded in the city and every subway rider knows the daily overcrowded conditions on the 7, E, F, M, N, Q, and R.”

More recently, Nolan also voiced her apprehension over the upcoming clock tower development in Court Square.

“I do not support a height of seventy stories for any building in Long Island City and will continue to press for whatever changes are necessary to keep some sense of scale,” Nolan said in December about the clock tower development purchased by the Durst Organization.

All proposals for 11-24 Jackson Avenue are due to the NYC Economic Development Corporation and the MTA in April.

State Sen. Mike Gianaris said he is currently having discussions with community leaders about the city’s proposal for the Jackson Avenue site.

“I will not support any plan that does not have the community’s approval.”

Meanwhile, Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer said he is reviewing the proposal too. “We will review the proposal along with the community and community board and won’t support any project that isn’t right for our community.”

[chris08876]

I don't get the single focus on height, when if you add up every other (dozens) of developments rising in LIC, a single 70+ story tower will do nothing to change the current situation of the area becoming bigger, busier, and more dynamic.

Height is like kryptonite. They are not fine with a 70 floor tower, yet completely ignore the other 40-50 floor towers which start to add up unit wise. Just two towers alone in the 30-40 foot range have equal if not more units than your 70 floor tower with the common ratio of affordable/market rate units.

[NYguy]

^ They automatically object to height. They'll be unhappy with anything. You could make it a 20-story building with all affordable housing, and they would find some issue with it.

[tdawg]

I can't believe they're complaining about overcrowding on the EIGHT subway lines that serve this area (no mention of the G) How many other booming neighborhoods have access to 8 subways? Hudson Yards has ONE station.

[chris08876]

Massive Toyoko Inn to put slight dent in Manhattan’s hotel dominance: Project coming to LIC will be only hotel with more than 1,000 rooms in the outer boroughs

Manhattan is the undisputed king of the New York hotel market, with nearly all of the largest hotels dotting the streets of Midtown. But one project coming to Queens will disrupt this: the massive Toyoko Inn on its way to Long Island City.

The 50-story project will be located at 24-09 Jackson Avenue and contain 1,260 hotel rooms, which will make it the largest hotel in the outer boroughs and the ninth largest hotel in the city overall. It will be the only hotel outside of Manhattan in the top 10 by room count, according to a data analysis by The Real Deal.

Manhattan’s largest hotels are on a completely different scale than the largest hotels in the outer boroughs. The biggest in Manhattan—and the only hotel in New York with more than 2,000 rooms—is the 2,076-key Hilton at 1335 Sixth Avenue, followed closely by the 1,919-key Marriott Marquis at 1535 Broadway.

Outside of Manhattan, the biggest hotels are barely a quarter of this size. The largest hotel is the LaGuardia Airport Marriott in East Elmhurst, which has 450 rooms, followed by the Radisson at JFK Airport, which has 385 rooms. The smallest hotel to crack Manhattan’s top 20 list? The 702-key InterContinental New York Barclay at 111 East 48th Street.

Most of the top 20 outer borough hotels are in Queens, and the top four are all airport hotels. Brooklyn shows up for the first time with the newly-renovated 280-key Hotel Bossert in Brooklyn Heights, while Staten Island makes its first and only appearance at number 18, with the 198-key Hilton Garden Inn at 1100 South Avenue. The Bronx does not show up at all in the top 20.

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[NYguy]

Yeah, Long Island City continues to mature a bit. It still needs to become more of a destination, like Downtown Brooklyn.


http://qns.com/story/2017/12/27/50-story...d-city-will-largest-kind-outer-boroughs/

50-story hotel planned for Long Island City will be largest of its kind in the outer boroughs

[Busy Bee]

I hope they integrate a new subway entrance.

[pico44]

Originally Posted by pico44

Gene Kaufman is to New York architecture as scum is to ponds.

I don't remember saying that but it sure does sound like me.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by pico44

I don't remember saying that but it sure does sound like me.

This sounds like a good standardized test question:

___________ is to New York architecture as _____ is to ponds

A) Gene Kaufman, scum
B) Trump, shit
C) Sam Chang, ripple
D) Blank wall, surface algae

[chris08876]

45-Story, 250-Unit Tower Planned for 23rd Street in Court Square


The planned tower seen in white. The gray structures represent other planned developments, and are not part of the project at hand. (via City Planning Commission)

Long Island City could soon be home to yet another large tower, with a 45-story development planned in the heart of Court Square.

The proposed tower would rise at the southeast corner of 23rd Street and 45th Avenue, immediately adjacent to the elevated 7 line tracks and on the same block as the Court Square station entrance. The building would also rival the 50-story One Court Square across the street.

The tower, being developed by Tavros Capital Partners, would span around 308,500 square feet, and includes approximately 250 residential units. About one-fifth of the building would be made up of office space, with some space allotted for retail use.

The development, with a height of 524 feet, also has an L-shaped footprint that covers seven low-rise multi-family buildings currently on site. The addresses of the buildings, which will be torn down to make way for the project, extend from 23-10 to 23-16 45th Ave., and 45-03 to 45-09 23rd St.



Despite the tower’s proposed size, Tavros Capital Partners is actually seeking to make changes to current zoning that ultimately allow for a significantly shorter building. The developer can already build an as-of-right project on site reaching a height of 70 stories, but is opting to build a 45-story development instead that features “a more flexible design and a more efficient floor plate size,” according to city documents.

Coralie Ayers, from the Department of City Planning, said at last week’s Community Board 2 meeting that without the requested changes, the tower would be “excessively large.” She further expanded on the application’s reasoning in a January board meeting.

“It’s quite a constrained lot, and it would have necessitated quite a tall building,” she said, adding that the changes move away from having a “skinny, extremely tall building” on site.

[...]


The developer plans on beginning construction in 2020, and completing the project by 2022.



The development site, outlined in red. (via City Planning Commission)

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https://licpost.com/45-story-250-unit-tower-planned-for-23rd-street-in-court-square

[NYguy]

The taller, as of right version would have been about 714 ft...
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/applicants/env-review/eas/19dcp038q-eas.pdf

[Crawford]

Good news for a prime site, though I would have preferred the taller, slimmer version.

[chris08876]

That Toyoko site shown in the diagram above will also yield over 1000 rooms if it comes to fruition @ 50 floors.

Thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=173102&page=2

And now with Amazon, I think LIC is just getting started!

[chris08876]

Seems like this has had no action or recent developments. There also was a delay with the Toyoko Inn project over in Chicago, which took six years from approval for a construction permit to arrive.

Given the coming of Amazon (we hope)... now might be the time to build it in anticipation for the future hospitality demand for LIC. But even than, with booming tourism, and numbers that rise every year, LIC is still a somewhat bargain for hotel units versus across the river.

[chris08876]

No action as of yet.



Credit: Waymond_Womano

[chris08876]

We'll probally hear about this sometime this year. Project is still in development. Apparently at 48 floors. Tavros Capital and Sam Charney.

Hopefully they capitalize on LIC and up the unit count.

[chris08876]

Rename to: NEW YORK | 45-03 23rd Street | 544 FT | 50 FLOORS


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Exclusive Reveal For Charney Companies & Tavros Capital’s 50-Story Skyscraper At 45-03 23rd Street, In Hunters Point

Permits have been filed for a 50-story mixed-use skyscraper at 45-03 23rd Street in Hunters Point, Queens, and today, YIMBY has an exclusive reveal of the first rendering for the project. Located at the intersection of 23rd Street and 45th Avenue, the corner lot is steps from the Court Square subway station, serviced by the E, M, G, and 7 trains. Charney Companies and Tavros Capital under the Court Square 45th Avenue LLC are the owners behind the applications.

A rendering by Fogarty Finger, the architect of record, shows an exterior of elongated grid of bronze-accented floor-to-ceiling glass and white terracotta panels that span the entire height of the superstructure. The skyscraper will sit on an offset series of landscaped setbacks.

The proposed 544-foot-tall development will yield 350,844 square feet of space, with 194,423 square feet designated for residential use, 100,000 square feet for commercial tenants, and 3,388 square feet for community facilities. Components for the building comprise 285 condominium units with two penthouse floors, Class A office space, and retail. The concrete-based structure will also have a cellar, mezzanine, and a 25-foot-long rear yard. Amenities include a 24/7 doorman, a fitness center, resident lounges, and bike storage.

Demolition permits were filed in November 2019. An estimated completion date has not been announced.

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[Busy Bee]

Great looking tower.