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Old Posted Sep 24, 2008, 5:33 PM
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Addition. GO Transit plans on extending GO Trains to Stoney Creek and eventually to the Niagara region.
Any idea what kind of timescale we're talking about here?
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^^ Within the next 25 years.
It's all in conjunction with MoveOntario 2020.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2008, 5:55 PM
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September 24, 2008
By Rob Faulkner
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(Sep 24, 2008)
GO trains every five minutes during rush hour. Train rides from Hamilton to Union Station in Toronto that take 44, not 66 minutes like today. Two rapid transit lines by 2023, and a third in the years just after that.

It's the kind of work that Burlington-mayor-turned-transportation-architect Rob MacIsaac calls "transformational."

And it's a glimpse of the local future envisioned in The Big Move, a $50-billion, 25-year draft plan unveiled yesterday by provincial Crown agency Metrolinx aiming to ease gridlock and pollution in the Toronto-Hamilton region.

It contained dozens of blockbuster projects across the region.

Metrolinx board chair MacIsaac called the plan -- a mix of cycling, transit, integrated fares, mobility hubs and more -- the most significant transportation investment in a generation.

But it leaves a few unanswered questions: such as will Hamilton get the light rail it has been hoping for or will it make do with bus rapid transit?

The 84-page plan commits to building three rapid transit lines in Hamilton within 25 years, and two of these by 2023. One line will run east-west from McMaster University to Centennial Parkway -- what Hamilton has been calling its B line.

A north-south line is planned to run along James Street up the Mountain.

The east-west line is one of the top 15 priorities among the 40 projects Metrolinx wants completed in the next 15 years.

A 2009 benefits analysis study will determine if that line will run with bus or rail, said John Howe, Metrolinx general manager for investment strategy and projects.

"We are definitely very excited to see them include the (east-west) B line as one of the top 15 priorities," said Jill Stephen, city manager of strategic planning.

"We could have it running in the next eight years. We are going to press forward with our studies, our consultation and make sure that Metrolinx knows we are ready."

Howe said construction may start in 2010 and take four or five years.

Capital costs will be covered, it appears, but operating costs will likely be paid by municipalities.

Metrolinx plans more thorough financial details in the years ahead.

MacIsaac said that each project in the draft plan's long list will be evaluated for ridership and environmental, social and economic benefits. A final plan is expected in November.

He describes some work, like GO train electrification, as "transformational." Within 15 years, Lakeshore GO trains will run every 15 minutes at off-peak and every five minutes at peak times, he said.

"They won't have to worry about a schedule, they can just show up at a station and have confidence that a train will be along relatively shortly," MacIsaac said.

Howe said electrification will cost $4 billion and may be complete by 2016, if it starts in 2011.

Metrolinx said two Hamilton stations will be used for the increased number of GO trains, the Hunter Street GO station and LIUNA Station.

GO spokesperson Jessica Kosmack said details are not yet hammered out.

"This regional transportation plan is the first step in a long journey for all of the transportation groups. The next step is establishing what the priorities are and looking at the logistics and the funding," she said.

The Draft Regional Transportation Plan and Draft Investment Strategy will go to the Metrolinx board for discussion and approval Friday.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger urges Hamilton residents to participate in the public consultations Metrolinx is planning for October. He said that, as Hamilton's voice on the agency's board, he will strive to make the plan a reality.

"It's a good news day for Hamilton," Eisenberger said. "We believe in Hamilton that light rail transit is the right way to go. We're pushing for that. Light rail is the next generation of transit systems. We've already made our case and I'll continue to do that."

Last year's $17.5-billion MoveOntario 2020 announcement -- which Metrolinx is implementing -- said $300 million was available for Hamilton rapid transit. More exact timing for capital projects will come in October's five-year rolling budget, MacIsaac said.

Metrolinx said it will use the $11.5 billion in committed provincial money to fund the plan from 2009 to 2015, to accomplish quick wins and its 15 top priorities. It hopes for $6 billion from the federal government, to fund the plan to 2018.

Metrolinx plans to report back to the Ontario government in 2013 on how to fund the rest of the plan, post-2015. Possible sources include tolls.

But MacIsaac said the strategic thinking was to build a system that Ontario likes first, then find ways to generate new money.

Hamilton estimates an east-west line and a north-south line of light rail will cost $1.1 billion, and $160 an hour per vehicle to run. Bus rapid transit would cost $480 million.

"It's a major step along the way because Metrolinx has said that Hamilton will be in the first round of projects to get funded," said Nicholas Kevlahan, a McMaster University math professor and co-founder of Hamilton Light Rail, a citizens group formed to advocate for local light rail transit.

"On the choice between light rail and bus rapid transit, we are very well positioned because the city is already answering the questions that Metrolinx will be asking."

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GO Train could take awhile, 20 years. But GO Bus I can see happening within 5 years. You already see GO Bus expanding to East Hamilton/Stoney Creek.
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GO Transit announced recent track improvements will allow the Toronto-bound train which leaves Oakville at 7:58 a.m. to start its run from Burlington Aldershot at 7:32 a.m. on Jan. 5.

This 12-car train will originate in Hamilton later in early 2009 when the Hamilton train layover site is finished.
This should amount to a 7:17 train out of Hamilton in 2009. It's a little earlier than I was hoping for but nonetheless an improvement. 14 more minutes of sleep - every bit counts.
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It sounds like the feds might put infrastructure money towards speeding up the construction of electrifying the Lakeshore line.
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What's going to happen to the Hunter St. Station?
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Rush hour trains will continue to run from Hunter Street GO Centre. Off-peak will run from James North.
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It sounds like the feds might put infrastructure money towards speeding up the construction of electrifying the Lakeshore line.
"While he declined to talk about specific projects, he said he met yesterday with officials from Metrolinx and the Toronto City Summit Alliance, suggesting further expansion of the TTC or GO Transit is in the works."

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Anyone know when the new 7:15AM train out of Hunter will start running?
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Anyone know when the new 7:15AM train out of Hunter will start running?
Well, the platform extension was open today, so it should be soon.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2009, 8:17 PM
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Well, the platform extension was open today, so it should be soon.
Wow, I'm totally out of touch with the John St. side of things. Good news.
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and go buses and greyhound/coach canada
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The physical copy of The Spec reports a new 7:15am train. Disappointing since we are already serviced by a 7:04am train.
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The physical copy of The Spec reports a new 7:15am train. Disappointing since we are already serviced by a 7:04am train.
It does seem like a waste to add a train only 11 minutes later. It'll either be basically empty or will carry a small percentage of people normally on the 7:04. I don't think this will convert people who normally take the bus to Toronto. Overall it won't really add any extra commuters to the train service.

If it left around 7:30, 7:45 or 8:00, then it would be handy for those who start work between 9:00 and 10:00.
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It's essentially a train to service existing Aldershot, Burlington service only domiciled in Hamilton vs. bringing it west in the morning from Mimico.

Only they've tried to maximize the spin by saying it's a plus for Hamilton.......

I've also read one in the evening is really in the afternoon, 3:15pm (or something close) leaving Union. Still leaving a big rush hour gap in service between the 5:34pm to 6:35pm. Any one working until 5:30, or delayed leaving their 5pm finish by 10, or 15 minutes the 5:34pm will most likely be a no go and 6:34pm is a good long wait.
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I suspect the 7:04 train will end up with an earlier departure time once the 7:14 starts running. If its departure is moved to 6:54, then there will be an AM train leaving Hamilton GO Centre on a 20 minute schedule (6:14, 6:34, 6:54, 7:14).
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It's still something, I guess. I'm surprised this layover facility allows only one additional train. I figured it would allow a couple more in the morning, and a few departing for Toronto in the evening. Why GO figures people only want to go to Toronto in the evening is beyond me.
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Quote from the 2009 Budget....

"Funding will also be used to modernize VIA Rail Canada’s fleet of locomotives and passenger cars, and to upgrade key stations in Toronto, Montréal, Vancouver, Hamilton, Belleville and Windsor."

Finally getting a VIA Station at James St North.
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Quote from the 2009 Budget....

"Funding will also be used to modernize VIA Rail Canada’s fleet of locomotives and passenger cars, and to upgrade key stations in Toronto, Montréal, Vancouver, Hamilton, Belleville and Windsor."

Finally getting a VIA Station at James St North.
They might have been counting Aldershot as Hamilton, but that also doesn't make sense, as it is a fairly new station anyway. I suppose we'll have to wait.
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