The most dangerous cities in Canada - A Maclean's exclusive

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Yes, and people are allowed to criticize it, dissect it, ridicule it and reject it.

As for the other stuff, my ethnicity, or lack of one, has no bearing on anything. I am Canadian, born and raised here.

I think that most people have come to the conclusion that he is aborigional, or at least Metis. The way he jumps down someone elses throat for not agreeing with Aborigional's points of view is unbelievable. He is always playing the race card here. Non-aborigionals would not get as worked up and call everyone a bigot for disagreeing with natives opinions or demands; that mentality would most likely come from a native person.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

I think that most people have come to the conclusion that he is aborigional, or at least Metis. The way he jumps down someone elses throat for not agreeing with Aborigional's points of view is unbelievable. He is always playing the race card here. Non-aborigionals would not get as worked up and call everyone a bigot for disagreeing with natives opinions or demands; that mentality would most likely come from a native person.

Wow that is a broad generalization. It seems your part of the problem not the solution.

[Markus41]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Wow that is a broad generalization. It seems your part of the problem not the solution.

Actually, I think he is bang on and I fully agree with him.

You are a fool, and are also a part of the problem, not the solution.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

I think that most people have come to the conclusion that he is aborigional, or at least Metis. The way he jumps down someone elses throat for not agreeing with Aborigional's points of view is unbelievable. He is always playing the race card here. Non-aborigionals would not get as worked up and call everyone a bigot for disagreeing with natives opinions or demands; that mentality would most likely come from a native person.

You must be Dutch. Those damn Dutch always up to no good.

[Markus41]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

You must be Dutch. Those damn Dutch always up to no good.

Look who is grasping now.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Markus41

Look who is grasping now.

More Dutch, see they are ruining the country.

[Greco Roman]

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[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Wow that is a broad generalization. It seems your part of the problem not the solution.

So then would you care to explain to the rest of us how you are such a great part of the solution?

Do you think jumping down others throats about their opinions that differ from yours is a positive way of communicating your beliefs and opinions?

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

Do you think jumping down others throats about their opinions that differ from yours is a positive way of communicating your beliefs and opinions?

Do you think blaming it on one ethnic group is a positive way to solve the issue?

And, if rejecting a posts main thesis as ridiculous hurts your feelings because it isn't "positive". Then you should desensitize yourself, or getting off the pedestal and extracting that silver spoon from your mouth, just might help.

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Do you think blaming it on one ethnic group is a positive way to solve the issue?

And, if rejecting a posts main thesis as ridiculous hurts your feelings because it isn't "positive". Then you should desensitize yourself, or getting off the pedestal and extracting that silver spoon from your mouth, just might help.

I now realize why no one on the Regina thread takes you seriously.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

I now realize why no one on the Regina thread takes you seriously.

Because they are conservative rednecks (or Dutch) that like to blame others and can't take any criticism, like yourself?

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Because they are conservative rednecks (or Dutch) that like to blame others and can't take any criticism, like yourself?

You are too much, Quimby. And I'll bet the Regina forumers will appreciate your little comment.

I'm walking away from this pointless arguement. You can have the last word if you want...................................................

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

Because they are conservative rednecks (or Dutch) that like to blame others and can't take any criticism, like yourself?

LOL.....thanks for proving everyone's point Quimby.

[jimsabo21]

Disclosure: I am metis.

Truth:

Cities with large aboriginal populations DO have more crime. Not being racist, it's an absolute fact. Look at the top 10 list. Winnipeg, Regina and Saskatoon all have a large aboriginal population, thus have more crime per capita.

How can I prove this:

Fact: Aboriginals make up 9% of the total population in Manitoba, yet make up 61% of the provincial prison population. That means an aboriginal in Manitoba is almost 700% more likely to commit a crime than all other races.

This means that if Winnipeg has 50,000 aboriginals within the city limits, that small group creates as much crime as 350,000 non-aboriginals combined.

More proof that aboringals are more likely to commit crime? In Winnipeg, the largest concentration of Aboriginals live in the North End (known as district 3). No coincidence that District 3 also leads the city in all crime stats (car theft, robery, sexual assault, homicide, etc ...). Not only do they lead the city, no other district is even close.

Sorry, not racism, just facts.

[vid]

That means an aboriginal in Manitoba is almost 700% more likely to commit a crime than all other races.

No, it means they're more likely to be convicted of committing a crime. Many people commit crimes and don't get convicted. They're not in prison. Other crimes might not have prison as a punishment. You can't look just at prison populations but you can't disregard them either.

Aboriginals do cause a lot of crime, mainly due to their economic situations. My neighbourhood has as many aboriginals per-capita as Winnipeg's North End and we have the same crime problems here. Part of the reason? The aboriginals here are making less than a third of what a non-aboriginal makes in this city.

Stating that they're committing crime isn't racism, but the reason they are committing these crimes is, indirectly, related to racism. All of this stems from the way aboriginals were treated since European contact.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally Posted by vid

No, it means they're more likely to be convicted of committing a crime. Many people commit crimes and don't get convicted. They're not in prison. Other crimes might not have prison as a punishment. You can't look just at prison populations but you can't disregard them either.

Aboriginals do cause a lot of crime, mainly due to their economic situations. My neighbourhood has as many aboriginals per-capita as Winnipeg's North End and we have the same crime problems here. Part of the reason? The aboriginals here are making less than a third of what a non-aboriginal makes in this city.

Stating that they're committing crime isn't racism, but the reason they are committing these crimes is, indirectly, related to racism. All of this stems from the way aboriginals were treated since European contact.

Not to mention, in nations that have no Aboriginal populations, they still have crime. Who does the crime in those nations?

The poor, disenfranchised and disadvantaged. In Germany, it's the Turks. In Spain, Moroccans and in France, it's Tunisians. The one thing in every country they have in common is they are poor.

[drew]

^aboriginal poverty is the result of issues, treaties, maltreatment, etc. all of which fall on the country of Canada as a whole through history. I wouldn't imagine anyone area of Canada can shoulder more or less historical blame in this regard.

Despite the fact that these historical issues and their results are nationally derived, articles like this one give a public black eye to cities that happen to hold a higher percentage of aboriginals. The fault always seems to fall back to the municipality from which the stats originate - when in fact (going by the general theme of this thread) the fault lies with our society as a whole.

[psych1]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

I think that most people have come to the conclusion that he is aborigional, or at least Metis. The way he jumps down someone elses throat for not agreeing with Aborigional's points of view is unbelievable. He is always playing the race card here. Non-aborigionals would not get as worked up and call everyone a bigot for disagreeing with natives opinions or demands; that mentality would most likely come from a native person.

That is a ridiculous assertion, even though you make it in the third person ("most people"). I too get "worked up" by many of the opinions on racial issues, becasue they smack of racism as well, and I am whiter than most anybody I know. I just don't have the time or energy to respond to all of them as Quimby does. I'm not saying he and I agree on everything or that I feel he (she) always chooses the most constructive way of expressing him (her) self, but making assumptions about his (her) demographic is unnessary and uncalled for.

[Spocket]

It should be obvious to anybody with a set of eyes that aboriginals commit more crime on average. That's not the same thing as saying that if you're aboriginal you must be a criminal. Let's face it, we all also happen to have a pretty good idea of WHY aboriginals commit more crime and we also know who's to blame. So, instead of sugar coating everything to ensure that nobody feels offended by facts, let's just face them and deal with it.

And before anybody tries to label me a racist or bigot I'll point out that right now I have a friend staying with me until he can find his own place (it ain't easy to find the right place for your needs these days unless you have an unlimited cash flow) He also happens to be visibly aboriginal.

LordMandeep has the right attitude and I wish I heard it more often . "I am CANDADIAN" I'm sick of hearing people describe themselves as hyphenated Canadians.

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by psych1

That is a ridiculous assertion, even though you make it in the third person ("most people"). I too get "worked up" by many of the opinions on racial issues, becasue they smack of racism as well, and I am whiter than most anybody I know. I just don't have the time or energy to respond to all of them as Quimby does. I'm not saying he and I agree on everything or that I feel he (she) always chooses the most constructive way of expressing him (her) self, but making assumptions about his (her) demographic is unnessary and uncalled for.

Ok.