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Old Posted Sep 30, 2006, 6:22 PM
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Church To Brief City Council On Downtown Project
SALT LAKE CITY
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is ready to unveil its redevelopment plans for two largely empty downtown malls in an effort prevent the area adjoining its headquarters from becoming blighted.

David Burton, who oversees the church's facilities, will publicly brief City Council members on the project Tuesday.

The church announced in 2003 it had purchased Crossroads Plaza and had plans for a massive redevelopment project, including both it and the ZCMI Center mall, office buildings, housing and educational sites. Few details have emerged since then.

But most city council members have already seen the plans in closed meetings.

"I like it a lot," councilwoman Nancy Saxton said of the new look. "I like just about everything about it. They really want to be able to present it to the public. I'm going to honor that and give them the ability to make the splash."

It is unknown if the church also will announce new retailers. Macy's and Nordstrom are expected to remain as anchors.

The last time Burton publicly briefed the council, in April, he said the design would include ways to break up downtown blocks with pedestrian corridors. It also included a sky bridge to link the two malls, which would require city council approval. The church also has said the malls would be closed Sunday but restaurants on the blocks would be allowed to seek liquor permits, even though church members are told not to drink alcohol.

Tony Weller, owner of Sam Weller's Zion Bookstore, two blocks south of the mall, doesn't know what the church will announce, but he is glad for any news. He believes the mall project will spur other developments.

"We've been hoping for something to emerge for some time. As the biggest, single parcel at this stage of the city's development, many people are, I suppose, waiting to see what (the church) will do before they make decisions about what they will do. Of course it's good. We wish it could be unveiled and executed overnight," he said.

Previous estimates have put the cost of the renovation project at $1 billion.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2006, 8:04 PM
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I dug this up from a thread a few years ago, 2005....

"Downtown Marriott Hotel Salt Lake City – Proposed expansion of downtown Marriott by possibly 500 additional rooms; would be done in conjunction with renovations to Crossroads Mall."

500 rooms... its a plus, but I don't think we will see anything taller than the current hotel.
     
     
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Broadway experiment closing in on reality






By Doug Smeath
Deseret Morning News
Salt Lake City's Broadway Boulevard is just that — a broad street in the style of Brigham Young's famous decree that streets should be wide enough for an ox cart to make a U-turn.
Courtesy Salt Lake City Engineering Department...to also include landscaping, medians and other features. Courtesy Salt Lake City Engineering DepartmentA photo illustration shows how 300 South would evolve from midstreet parking... Four years ago, Mayor Rocky Anderson started an experiment to use that width for something other than more lanes of traffic. Today, Broadway, also known as 300 South, is known for a unique feature: Cars park and pedestrians walk right down the middle.
The experiment, it appears, will become permanent, as $1.5 million has already been allocated from the city's Redevelopment Agency. That amount is expected to cover only part of the improvements.
City engineers and planners are in the process of coming up with preliminary design concepts so the city can begin soliciting bids to find out just how much the entire project might cost. Anderson then plans to ask for additional funding.
His vision is for the medians to offer more than just additional parking. He hopes construction on the center-street parking will include a host of other features intended to make Broadway, from 400 West to 300 East, a distinct street running through a distinct district.
"We wanted to take it to the next step to create a charming, unique, identifiable district, a place that had its own identity in the downtown," Anderson said.
The administration's idea, at this point, focuses on making the midstreet corridor more pedestrian-friendly, both practically and aesthetically. Anderson envisions trees and other landscaping lining median sidewalks, pedestrian-level street lighting, raised walkways and electrical outlets to allow for special holiday and seasonal lighting.
"It has a different flavor," the mayor said. "To tie all that together would be something I think would work very well. It would be a place visitors would remember about Salt Lake City."
But City Councilwoman Nancy Saxton, whose district includes downtown, isn't so sure.
"I'm not wild about making the center area permanent, with barricades and planters and all that idea," said Saxton, who would have a vote on additional funding when the council acts as the RDA board. "As I've talked to people over time, the center-street parking has actually deterred people from traveling those streets. I don't like to travel those streets either. It feels so tight, and it doesn't feel safe driving a car down those streets."
She also worries that, as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints begins construction on a massive downtown redevelopment centered on the site of downtown malls Crossroads Plaza and the ZCMI Center, the timing of more construction just a few blocks away would be a problem.
Saxton said the Broadway area is an important sales-tax generator for the city, with a number of local businesses that are thriving. She said the street already has a "nice walkable feel to it" but that car traffic also needs to be accommodated, as businesses rely on customers who drive, as well.
One business owner, Tony Caputo of Caputo's Market and Deli, thinks Anderson's plan would only help business.
The area, he said, especially on his end of Broadway — to the west, near Pioneer Park — suffers not so much from a lack of amenities as a skewed, negative public perception.
"This is kind of like a big city down here. We've got a lot of different ethnic things going on. It's not a strip mall," Caputo said.
He played a big part in revitalizing the area near his store, including an Italian community center surrounded by bakeries, an Italian market and housing. With the Palladio Apartments and older housing like the La France Apartments nearby, as well as the planned Broadway Park Lofts, Caputo believes the area is on the upswing.
"It will be nice not to have the population disappear at 5 o'clock," he said.
He believes the midstreet parking makes the area an inviting neighborhood. Without the medians, he said, the wide street is "like 400 South — it's like a freeway. And that's all well and good if you want to be on a freeway."
Broadway includes the Rose Wagner Performing Arts Center and is part of what city and county officials foresee as being a cultural-arts district. The Rose Wagner currently has temporary sculptural artwork in the medians in front of the theater, and Anderson said he would like to see public art like that become more permanent in the district.
But Saxton wants the city to take its time in planning out such districts, making sure they fit into an overall vision for the city.
"Oftentimes we decide, outside of good planning principles, that this is something we want to do, but it doesn't necessarily fit with the bigger plan," she said. "We have so little money, we have to use it prudently and take some time and think it out and not have a knee-jerk reaction."

what do you guys think? I personally like the idea of more parking downtown. I also like the feel of having trees lining the center section. It gives it a better feel, than an all asphalt road.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2006, 7:37 AM
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Hinckley: Downtown project will be a boon to Temple Square
The Salt Lake Tribune october 1st 2006



It may be a massive commercial undertaking, but the president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sees another benefit to redeveloping 20 acres of prime real estate in downtown Salt Lake City.
"The church is undertaking a huge redevelopment project in the interest of protecting the environment of Temple Square," church President Gordon B. Hinckley told the faithful at the Saturday morning opening session of the LDS Church's 176th Semiannual General Conference.
"While the costs will be great, it will not involve the expenditure of tithing funds," he added.
That was all Hinckley said about the long-awaited plans, expected to be unveiled Tuesday at a City Council meeting.
Some public officials already have been briefed on the overhaul of the aging
Crossroads Plaza and ZCMI Center malls on Main Street between South Temple and 100 South, and have given it a thumbs-up. That includes Mayor Rocky Anderson, a one-time critic of the plan who is said to be "absolutely thrilled" with the design.
- The Salt Lake Tribune
     
     
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Doesn't it bother you guys at all, that you continually mention and quote "the church" ? I think it's another sign of sick times in the USA's only thriving & surviving theocracy. Do you not have minds and thoughts of your own, or are those too suplied to you by "the church"?
     
     
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I dug this up from a thread a few years ago, 2005....

"Downtown Marriott Hotel Salt Lake City – Proposed expansion of downtown Marriott by possibly 500 additional rooms; would be done in conjunction with renovations to Crossroads Mall."

500 rooms... its a plus, but I don't think we will see anything taller than the current hotel.
How many rooms does that Marriott have currently? Another 500 rooms could add some stories, although a lot would obviously depend on how they do it...right now the only thing that building has going for it is the Marriott name. It's too bad that the Marriotts in every other city are centerpieces, and here, it's...well, it's not a centerpiece.
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Doesn't it bother you guys at all, that you continually mention and quote "the church" ? I think it's another sign of sick times in the USA's only thriving & surviving theocracy. Do you not have minds and thoughts of your own, or are those too suplied to you by "the church"?
I think it's only being continually mentioned and quoted because of the enormous project that could revitalize downtown Salt Lake City. As far as calling it "THE CHURCH," I try to follow the guidelines the media are supposed to use--the first time you cite it, use "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints," and then successive times, use either "The LDS Church" or "the church." Because "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" is too friggin much to type.

If I were writing about the Catholic Church or Southern Baptist Church, I'd use the same format. I don't think it has anything to do with a theocracy--it has to do with formatting the statement.

I do hear what you're saying though, and I try to avoid using the jargon of the LDS Church whether I'm talking to people inside or outside of the USA's only thriving and surviving theocracy.
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SeattleBoy,calm down.
The Mall Project is a large project even by L.A. or New York standards. The developer is the Mormon Church. When discussing the project and its developer it is perfectly normal in all circles to refer to the developer as the church, or the LDS Church, or the Mormon Church. As a part-time resident of downtown Los Angeles and former resident of Rome we often would refer to a projects developer as the church, the Catholic Church, or other church denominations depending on the developer involved. If the developer is a secular, government,or religious organization that is who you refer to when discussing their plans involving the specific project. OKAY.
     
     
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Doesn't it bother you guys at all, that you continually mention and quote "the church" ? I think it's another sign of sick times in the USA's only thriving & surviving theocracy. Do you not have minds and thoughts of your own, or are those too suplied to you by "the church"?

What do you propose we call The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when we have to say the name 20 times? People who have a problem with 'the church' having an influence on the development of SLC need to shut their mouth and open their wallet. We talk about 'the church' a lot because they are paying for all of this. If it wasn't for 'the church' we wouldn't be getting ready for this announcement.

Where I am from we commonly refer to 'the church' when we are talking about the Baptist church. This is not something unique to Utah or 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'. You, SeattleBoy, need to 'get over it'. This is Utah and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based here and has the ability and right to impact the view, feel, nature and development of downtown Salt Lake City.

I seriously doubt you would have made the same comment about Vatican City or Rome.
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BuiLDing GuRL,

Way to smack SeattleBoy up side the head. I wonder if when I talk about development at The Gateway and refer to the Boyer Company repeatedly, I have allowed Boyer to take over my feeble mind? Certainly we must defer to SeattleBoy for some therapy.
     
     
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Doesn't it bother you guys at all, that you continually mention and quote "the church" ? I think it's another sign of sick times in the USA's only thriving & surviving theocracy. Do you not have minds and thoughts of your own, or are those too suplied to you by "the church"?

lol.. tell me this is tongue in cheek.. otherwise, wow...
     
     
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What do you propose we call The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when we have to say the name 20 times? People who have a problem with 'the church' having an influence on the development of SLC need to shut their mouth and open their wallet. We talk about 'the church' a lot because they are paying for all of this. If it wasn't for 'the church' we wouldn't be getting ready for this announcement.

Where I am from we commonly refer to 'the church' when we are talking about the Baptist church. This is not something unique to Utah or 'The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'. You, SeattleBoy, need to 'get over it'. This is Utah and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based here and has the ability and right to impact the view, feel, nature and development of downtown Salt Lake City.

I seriously doubt you would have made the same comment about Vatican City or Rome.




WOW, look out seattleboy i think you maked building gurl mad. Trust me it's not good since i live with her. LOL
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Salt lake updated projects.....



Blue Crane now on the sit of LDS church Libary sit.....






The Metro is now two levels over ground......






Gateway IV now getting it's walls and windows put up and it's topped out...

     
     
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Doesn't it bother you guys at all, that you continually mention and quote "the church" ? I think it's another sign of sick times in the USA's only thriving & surviving theocracy. Do you not have minds and thoughts of your own, or are those too suplied to you by "the church"?
yes yes Seattleboy youre sooooo wise, were all brainwashed, yes

haha, I think your name seattle"BOY" fits your comentary well
     
     
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leebuddy,

Careful, you used the "C" word on that library photo. Don't you know how much that offend's SeattleBBBBBoy.
     
     
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Thanks for the pics leebuddy--nice to see what's happening so far. How many stories are the Metro Condominiums going to be again?
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Thanks for the pics leebuddy--nice to see what's happening so far. How many stories are the Metro Condominiums going to be again?

7-stories. first level will be ratail and parking, level 2 will be office space and parking. 3-7 will be the condos.

     
     
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Careful, you used the "C" word on that library photo. Don't you know how much that offend's SeattleBBBBBoy.
LOL, yea i got to be more careful there. maybe next time i'll just say the "LDS group"
     
     
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leebuddy,

I like that, "The LDS Group" Very Manhattan sounding. It has kind of a sophisticated ring to it. I'm sure Donald Trump would approve.
     
     
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OH, I almost forgot. Keep up the great work with the photo's
     
     
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