Winnipeg | 634 Portage Ave | 20F | 215ft - Page 3

biguc · #1 Posted **Oct 27, 2021, 2:53 PM**

That Wawanesa tower is surprisingly tall. That and TNS 1 combine to a significant amount of office space. Shame they didn't have the foresight to just stack them into one 170m tower and leave the RWB residence alone.

biguc · #2 Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 2:07 PM**

Ah yes, the old "we can't legalize that, it's illegal!" argument.

optimusREIM · #3 Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 2:32 PM**

In true Winnipeg fashion the negative Nancys are out. I believe the life cycle of these complain trains is that in about 10 years they’re all gonna claim that they were big supporters of the project at the time.

The Jabroni · #4 Posted **Oct 28, 2021, 11:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

In true Winnipeg fashion the negative Nancys are out. I believe the life cycle of these complain trains is that in about 10 years they’re all gonna claim that they were big supporters of the project at the time.

Let me guess, "It'S tOo TaLL aND wILl TaKE uP tHE wHoLe SkYLIne!!"

Bich please! Lion's Place is LITERALLY next door and it's just as tall!

Goddam NIMBYs!!

buzzg · #5 Posted **Oct 29, 2021, 12:00 AM**

The first letter talks about it like it's the city who gets to decide what the owner charges for rent, and that its the owners responsibility to provide social or subsidized housing. Yes, we should have a minimum amount of "affordable" units per development, yes MH should subisize some units – but they aren't so the developer is rightly going to do their thing.

The second letters – so what you want another car dealership there?

michelleb · #6 Posted **Oct 30, 2021, 1:39 AM**

To offer one data point on rents...we moved into a newly renovated, ~1100sq.ft. 2-bedroom in a certain 35 year old downtown highrise last year at $1555/month. They've now notified us of a 7.07% increase ($110) to $1665 as of Feb 1. Rent control, what's that?

Where it gets interesting: this is after significant discounts. Our true "present rent" is $2027 before discount and the "proposed rent" is $2143 before discount. They see that as the "market rate". Which, wow.

trueviking · #7 Posted **Nov 1, 2021, 9:35 PM**

oh man that letter is unreal. If it won't rent at these rates, they won't build it. But that's the developer's choice.

Why would it be up to a private developer to provide affordable housing? If the government wants to give them money to make the units affordable I'm pretty sure they would take it.

We need housing diversity - market suites, luxury suites, affordable housing, supportive housing, social housing....not just affordable housing.

WinCitySparky · #8 Posted **Nov 1, 2021, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

oh man that letter is unreal. If it won't rent at these rates, they won't build it. But that's the developer's choice.

Why would it be up to a private developer to provide affordable housing? If the government wants to give them money to make the units affordable I'm pretty sure they would take it.

We need housing diversity - market suites, luxury suites, affordable housing, supportive housing, social housing....not just affordable housing.

Exactly. I’m fucking sick of hearing about affordable housing like it’s the solution to all of society’s problems and that people/entities should be forced to solve the problem at their expense. It’s a government issue, take it up with government as a policy/funding issue, and stop hamstringing the private sector for building housing in whatever form the market will support.

borkborkbork · #9 Posted **Feb 25, 2022, 9:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Exactly. I’m fucking sick of hearing about affordable housing like it’s the solution to all of society’s problems and that people/entities should be forced to solve the problem at their expense. It’s a government issue, take it up with government as a policy/funding issue, and stop hamstringing the private sector for building housing in whatever form the market will support.

It's bizarre that when commercial property gets developed, you don't have people angrily demanding "THIS DYNACARE SHOULD BE A HOSPITAL INSTEAD" or "WHY IS THIS A JOLIBEES IT SHOULD BE A SOUP KITCHEN"

like, yes, we need affordable housing, but this isn't the responsibility of real estate developers. it's government. if you think housing affordability is an issue (it is), lobby for major increases to Rent Assist and EIA. Lobby for incentive programs for developers to build affordable buildings or suites. Lobby for reduced restrictions on the things that make it hard to build affordable housing (height restrictions, parking minimums, etc.). but wanting a developer to build affordable housing just out of the goodness of their hearts?

BAKGUY · #10 Posted **Feb 26, 2022, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by borkborkbork

It's bizarre that when commercial property gets developed, you don't have people angrily demanding "THIS DYNACARE SHOULD BE A HOSPITAL INSTEAD" or "WHY IS THIS A JOLIBEES IT SHOULD BE A SOUP KITCHEN"

like, yes, we need affordable housing, but this isn't the responsibility of real estate developers. it's government. if you think housing affordability is an issue (it is), lobby for major increases to Rent Assist and EIA. Lobby for incentive programs for developers to build affordable buildings or suites. Lobby for reduced restrictions on the things that make it hard to build affordable housing (height restrictions, parking minimums, etc.). but wanting a developer to build affordable housing just out of the goodness of their hearts?

Yes, absolutely.
Private developers need to recoup their investment.
Plus, having a development as this. will spur others of all varieties , price points and make the area a bit safer with more people.

pegcityboy · #11 Posted **Feb 27, 2022, 5:25 AM**

Maybe they are waiting for The Halo 2 buildings on Pembina to be finished and the former Osborne Village Inn to be near completion before they start 634 Portage , 3 projects all at once could be too much for them to handle .

Jammon · #12 Posted **Nov 2, 2021, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

oh man that letter is unreal. If it won't rent at these rates, they won't build it. But that's the developer's choice.

Why would it be up to a private developer to provide affordable housing? If the government wants to give them money to make the units affordable I'm pretty sure they would take it.

We need housing diversity - market suites, luxury suites, affordable housing, supportive housing, social housing....not just affordable housing.

Exactly. We need more subsidized housing- co-ops, etc. My Mom runs a housing co-op and in her 20 years running, there has always been a waitlist for units, however, she said the longest waitlist she has ever experienced is right now and she receives calls daily. Some people have been waiting years for a unit to become available.

T'Cona · #13 Posted **Nov 2, 2021, 2:31 PM**

Agreed. God forbid a residential development targets middle to high income residents; that's the last thing we need: more people with buying power to support shops and restaurants downtown.