Winnipeg City Transit/Rapid Transit - Page 3

LilZebra · #1 Posted **May 12, 2007, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by kool maudit

just don't lose the orange buses. they are great in a 70s-social-studies-textbook-cover way. i wish we still had our green-and-cream streetcars here.

The orange coloured buses are not a 70s thing, but go back to the streetcar days of the earlier 20th century. It's called "traction orange".

http://world.nycsubway.org/us/boston/mattapan.html

Boston MTA Mattapan streetcar:

Image Courtesy of NYC Subway website

rgalston · #2 Posted **May 12, 2007, 9:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

Image Courtesy of NYC Subway website

That's the kind of streetcar that Winnnipeg Electric Co. could have purchased after the war, instead of paying huge sums of money on ripping out street tracks and paving roads to accomodate trolley and diesel buses (oh yeah, the private cars, too). Same colors it would have had, too.

Greco Roman · #3 Posted **May 14, 2007, 2:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by kool maudit

just don't lose the orange buses. they are great in a 70s-social-studies-textbook-cover way. i wish we still had our green-and-cream streetcars here.

I don't care how "Winnipeg" the colors are, just get rid of the orange and puke yellow. It's time for LONG OVERDUE change.

dennis · #4 Posted **May 14, 2007, 3:34 PM**

^ Nooo. Keep the orange, keep the black, keep the white. Get rid of the puke yellow. I like the bright orange fronts of the bus. You could see them a mile away.

The Jabroni · #5 Posted **May 12, 2007, 7:07 PM**

I just wish the city hadn't dropped the orange motif on all of the buses and focused on white as the new thang.

newflyer · #6 Posted **May 13, 2007, 2:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Jabroni

I just wish the city hadn't dropped the orange motif on all of the buses and focused on white as the new thang.

Most cities are following the white concept .. its cheaper not to have to paint the buses. They are delivered white.. so just add some decals and you're on your way.

The new C-trains in Calgary aren't even getting the decals, just plan white.

spiritedenergy · #7 Posted **May 13, 2007, 2:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by newflyer

Most cities are following the white concept .. its cheaper not to have to paint the buses. They are delivered white.. so just add some decals and you're on your way.

The new C-trains in Calgary aren't even getting the decals, just plan white.

that's pathetic IMHO.

Boris2k7 · #8 Posted **May 13, 2007, 6:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by newflyer

Most cities are following the white concept .. its cheaper not to have to paint the buses. They are delivered white.. so just add some decals and you're on your way.

The new C-trains in Calgary aren't even getting the decals, just plan white.

Correction, they are getting a paint job eventually, however there are slightly more pressing issues right now such as the possible transit strike. Supposedly the CTrains will be a white base with red and silver stripes (red and white are the city colours, so it makes sense).

newflyer · #9 Posted **May 13, 2007, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Boris550

Correction, they are getting a paint job eventually, however there are slightly more pressing issues right now such as the possible transit strike. Supposedly the CTrains will be a white base with red and silver stripes (red and white are the city colours, so it makes sense).

News to me ... even the old trains aren't painted. Just long purple decals.

I find it hard to believe that the threat of a strike is preventing the crews from placing decals, but if you say so.

The Jabroni · #10 Posted **May 14, 2007, 3:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by newflyer

Most cities are following the white concept .. its cheaper not to have to paint the buses. They are delivered white.. so just add some decals and you're on your way.

The new C-trains in Calgary aren't even getting the decals, just plan white.

That's ridiculous. Just add decals...? I mean even then they don't even make a difference on certain buses in the long run, because that's like being assimilated with the Borg. It's like losing an identity and going with what everyone is going for. That's too bad because it's they're like ultimate identifiers in which city they're from whenever you see those buses on TV or in pictures. To me, our older orange buses was Winnipeg to me. Now those last of the latest high floor buses are getting repainted too. I guess the focus is on "efficiency" rather than "creature comfort."

LilZebra · #11 Posted **Feb 13, 2008, 7:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by newflyer

Most cities are following the white concept .. its cheaper not to have to paint the buses. They are delivered white.. so just add some decals and you're on your way.

I'm willing to believe its part of a Commie conspiracy... after all it is the Commies that want everything (black Lada cars) and everybody (via the human rights act) the same... Back in the days of the USSR, all Lada cars were the same colour tone. Black.

Image Courtesy of TorqueCars.co.uk

ScrappyPeg · #12 Posted **Feb 13, 2008, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

I'm willing to believe its part of a Commie conspiracy... after all it is the Commies that want everything (black Lada cars) and everybody (via the human rights act) the same... Back in the days of the USSR, all Lada cars were the same colour tone. Black.

Image Courtesy of TorqueCars.co.uk

Wasn't that also true of Henry Ford's Model-T? Was Henry Ford a Communist?

vid · #13 Posted **Feb 13, 2008, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by ScrappyPeg

Wasn't that also true of Henry Ford's Model-T? Was Henry Ford a Communist?

No, Henry Ford was American, therefore he was a hero.

furiousmcd · #14 Posted **May 14, 2007, 3:59 AM**

I emailed the Mayor Glen Murray when he was still in power and he said that it was considered an "unnecessary expense." It's hard to criticize his point. I really liked the painted buses but if money is tight, things like this are always the first to be cut from the budget. This is also the reason that they no longer paint the street lights, apparently.

Wasn't really a big fan of the orange and yellow buses, but I really like the ones from the late 90's with just the orange and white.

http://www.freewebs.com/furiousmcdpi...ipeg%5Fbus.jpg

Reed Solomon · #15 Posted **May 14, 2007, 5:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by furiousmcd

Wasn't really a big fan of the orange and yellow buses, but I really like the ones from the late 90's with just the orange and white.

I always wished the city went with a blue and gold bus colour motif on everything. I've always felt those colours best represented the city. (you can substitute yellow for gold I guess)

ILYR · #16 Posted **May 14, 2007, 7:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Reed Solomon

I always wished the city went with a blue and gold bus colour motif on everything. I've always felt those colours best represented the city. (you can substitute yellow for gold I guess)

Maybe we should do them up like in Bangladesh ...

1ajs · #17 Posted **May 14, 2007, 7:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by ILYR

Maybe we should do them up like in Bangladesh ...

that would be cool

newflyer · #18 Posted **May 15, 2007, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Reed Solomon

I always wished the city went with a blue and gold bus colour motif on everything. I've always felt those colours best represented the city. (you can substitute yellow for gold I guess)

Yeah me too .. blue and gold would look great on buses.

LilZebra · #19 Posted **May 15, 2007, 3:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by newflyer

Yeah me too .. blue and gold would look great on buses.

Blue and gold in the Winnipeg context means the Blue Bombers colours, and I'm not a big fan of the CFL since it went with the mainly Carribean players.

furiousmcd · #20 Posted **May 15, 2007, 1:11 PM**

Sorry to swing this discussion from the colour of buses and what not, but does anybody else think that the Rapid Transit Task Force used nearly no imagination at all? From what I looked at, they only looked at LRT and BRT as realistic options with the occassional mention of the Yonge Street Subway or the Vancouver SkyTrain. I think we can all be realistic with our city government and assume that they didn't for one second consider either a SkyTrain or Subway for Winnipeg because of costs.

To search for myself, a mere citizen of Winnipeg mind you, I decided to take it to the web. I discovered, much as I figured would, that LRT and BRT are not the only realistic options for a city where project budgets are very critical to any new development. There are many options that the city could have investigated.

Although I admit that monorails are extremely expensive and probably out of Winnipeg's price range, there are still models that are perfectly affordable and effective. Side straddle monorails in particular.

"High Road Rapid Transit"
http://www.otg-inc.com/

"Flyda Elevated Transit System"
http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans/flyda.htm

"System 21 Side Straddle"
http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans/sys21.htm

There are many other side straddle monorail technologies that I have come across, but I feel that you get the point. I also came across various other technologies that I felt warranted investigation.

"Microrail Urban Transit"
http://www.megarail.com/MicroRail_Urban_Transit/

"SwedeTrack Flyway"
http://www.swedetrack.com/

"Aerobus"
http://www.aerobus.com/home.html

Hope you enjoyed looking at these.