NEW YORK | JFK Airport Redevelopment

[Crawford]

The JFK redevelopment is a bit different. There will be a huge new Terminal 1 (one of the largest terminals anywhere), Terminal 4 will be expanded, primarily for Delta, Terminal 5 will be expanded for JetBlue and British Airways, mostly, and Terminal 8 (currently the largest) will be expanded for AA, mostly.

So JFK will have gone from nine smaller terminals to four huge terminals, basically. And all the terminals will be new or newish (the oldest, Terminal 8, is maybe 10-15 years old).

Three existing, operational terminals will be demolished- Terminal 1, Terminal 2, and Terminal 7. Terminals 3 and 9 were demolished relatively recently (T3 was the old PanAM terminal and was largest in the world when built).

The other major JFK improvement concerns mobility. The Airtrain is doubling capacity/frequency, and the roadway network is being completely rebuilt.

[BBMW]

If they did the runways right, they could free up a lot of land for terminal development.

In addition they could also fix some problems caused by the current runway orientation. As it is, the 13-31s cause issues with plane having to deal with Manhattan skyscrapers (mentioned in the Regional Plan Association report.) Rotating that traffic out over the harbor, instead of over Manhattan would help with that. It would also increase the distance of those approaches from the threshold of LGA runway 4. I've heard that's an issue also.

Finally, someone mentioned the Jamaica Bay landfill issue. It would have to be done. But the part of the bay directly adjacent to the airport is already dead (killed off by the last expansion, again as per the RPA report.) That' the only part of the bay that would be necessary to fill.

Originally Posted by Crawford

This thread is Penn Station 2.0. Finally new terminals for JFK, upgraded transit and roadways, and now people are complaining the runways haven't been expanded yet.

The fact you can't fix everything at once doesn't mean you fix nothing. Runway expansion will probably take decades, and Cuomo will long since be retired. It's a very complex political and environmental issue.

[N830MH]

Don't we have any news JFK redevelopment yet? When they can start construction?

[BBMW]

With what money? Since I last posted here, Covid broke out, and all government revenues have plummeted, as has airline traffic. This isn't going to start for five years or more.

Originally Posted by N830MH

Don't we have any news JFK redevelopment yet? When they can start construction?

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by N830MH

Don't we have any news JFK redevelopment yet? When they can start construction?

Terminal construction isn't planned till 4Q 2021. So at least a year away.

This will be a gigantic project for the PA, much bigger than the LGA and EWR projects. It will be nice to finally have three updated airports.

[N830MH]

Can we create a new thread for EWR Newark Airport redevelopment? I can't find it on the forums.

[NYguy]

https://rew-online.com/jetblue-to-re...-jfk-flagship/

JetBlue to renew LIC headquarters lease, expand JFK flagship

by REW
August 3, 2021

JetBlue today announced plans to double down on its commitment to New York by maintaining its headquarters in the city and advancing plans to expand its flagship terminal at John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK).

After a competitive bid process, JetBlue said it will keep its headquarters in the Brewster Building at 27-01 Queens Plaza North in Long Island City (pictured top) when its current office lease expires in 2023.

JetBlue intends to negotiate and execute a lease over the next few months and then re-design its office space to be responsive to evolving workplace trends that have accelerated during the pandemic.

The Brewster Building was built in 1911 and is where the Brewster Aeronautical Company manufactured the Brewster F2A the first monoplane fighter airplane used by the U.S. Navy in World War II.

“New York is in JetBlue’s DNA and inspires everything we do,” said Robin Hayes, chief executive officer, JetBlue. “Our comprehensive review found that keeping our headquarters in the city was the right thing for our crewmembers, our brand, and our business.

“We’re confident in the city’s commitment to bring back NYC stronger than ever on multiple fronts, including public safety, economic recovery, and travel and tourism. And at JetBlue we’re ready to do our part as well by advancing sustainability and diversity initiatives in the city, partnering with local organizations across the region, and activating thousands of crewmembers to volunteer in our communities.”

The new Terminal 6 project will integrate with Terminal 5, building on JetBlue’s customer experience while expanding the airline’s footprint farther into the north side of the airport. It helps secure JetBlue’s long-term future at JFK with opportunities for new gates starting in 2025, and offers partner airlines the ability to co-locate with JetBlue to improve connectivity for customers.

The Terminal 6 project will be developed and operated by JFK Millennium Partners (JMP), a private consortium comprised of JetBlue; Vantage Airport Group, an industry leading investor, developer and manager of award-winning global airport projects, including as a member of the consortium that built LaGuardia Airport’s new Terminal B; American Triple I (ATI), a 100% minority- and woman-owned investor, owner, developer, and manager of infrastructure assets and infrastructure focused companies that seek to spur economic growth and development in markets across the U.S.; and RXR Realty, a leading New York-based real estate operating and development company.

The $3.9 billion, 1.2 million square foot terminal is set to replace aging existing facilities, and will be designed to accommodate both wide-body gates and narrow-body gates, as well as bright and airy check-in halls and arrival spaces designed to enhance the customer experience. Customers will enjoy more than 100,000 square feet of commercial dining and retail amenities, lounges, and recreational spaces. The new terminal will also include critical infrastructure improvements to the airport’s roadways, optimizing traffic flow and transportation access at the airport, and incorporate the latest advances in both sustainability and security.

According to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the development of Terminal 6 is expected to result in over 4,000 direct jobs (both on-site and off-site) and direct payroll wages of $1.9 billion. The total economic activity impact from the project amounts to nearly $2.8 billion in total wages and $6.3 billion in total economic activity.

JetBlue will also expand its footprint at LaGuardia Airport beyond its current space at the historic Marine Air Terminal and partially move into the airport’s recently opened and state-of-the-art Terminal B later this year with plans to move completely in 2022. At Newark, JetBlue will also move, relocating to the new Terminal A in 2022.

JetBlue plans to add more than 1,800 jobs at New York City airports thanks to new flights and destinations it is adding as a result of its Northeast Alliance with American Airlines.

[MAC123]

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/gov...al-jfk-airport

Governor Hochul Announces Plan to Build World-Class $9.5 Billion International Terminal at JFK Airport

2.4 Million Square Foot International Terminal Will be Built in Phases on Sites of Current T1, T2, and Former T3

Private Partners Will Provide Financing to Cover Full Cost of Terminal;
Port Authority to Build Supporting Road and Utility Infrastructure

Groundbreaking Anticipated in 2022; First New Gates Will Go Live in 2026

Project Will Create More Than 10,000 Total Jobs and 6,000 Construction Jobs

Advances Plan for a Unified, Modern Airport With World-Class Passenger Amenities, State-of-the-Art Security and Streamlined Roadway Access

Includes 30 Percent MWBE Goal for Contracts and Financing Interests;
Extensive Opportunities for Local Business and Jobseekers Guided by Community Advisory Council

I won't be posting the rendering but you can get them here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/panynj...h/51743945181/
Looks nice, and if it's anything like the LaGuardia redevelopment it's going to be amazing.

[Busy Bee]

Lady Gov on a roll. Now if we can only get a world-class JFK express rail link.

[BK1985]

While I’m excited for the terminals to be rebuilt I hope that this isn’t the final design. I find it very basic.

[Crawford]

The current JFK terminal 1 is such a joke. Thank God this terminal is finally being replaced.

The design for the new terminal looks better than any existing terminal at any of the NY airports. Granted, the competition isn't exactly fierce, but it still looks like the best. Looks pretty grand and distinctive.

Also, I just used LGA for the first time since the rebuild. WOW, what a difference. From possibly worst major airport in the U.S. to now one of the best.

[BK1985]

Originally Posted by Crawford

The current JFK terminal 1 is such a joke. Thank God this terminal is finally being replaced.

The design for the new terminal looks better than any existing terminal at any of the NY airports. Granted, the competition isn't exactly fierce, but it still looks like the best. Looks pretty grand and distinctive.

Also, I just used LGA for the first time since the rebuild. WOW, what a difference. From possibly worst major airport in the U.S. to now one of the best.

I totally agree, I just wished we could have gotten a Foster or something.

[H-man]

checked out the renderings. How can that thing possibly be approaching 10 billion dollars?

[Crawford]

The new Port Authority Bus Terminal is budgeted at $12 billion. The WTC PATH station was $4 billion, about a decade ago.

$10 billion sounds about right for a major airport terminal.

[TonyNYC]

Originally Posted by H-man

checked out the renderings. How can that thing possibly be approaching 10 billion dollars?

Easily $10 Billion here in NYC and if it's built by the Port Authority expect cost overruns by the billions bringing the cost to $15-$18B!!

The cost of construction per SF is much higher in NYC then any other city in the world.. thanks to the corrupt unions!

[Busy Bee]

^ You know thats not reality right?

[giantSwan]

I'm all for a new terminal one...but the renderings look horrible.

It looks 100 years older than anything being built in china.

for reference:

[mrnyc]

i know businesses are pitching in, but still -- higher airport fees to fly in an era of rapid inflation -- yay!

[Crawford]

That China terminal looks terrible. Having been in too many of those "showplace" terminals, I get a headache just looking at the pic.

The developing world terminals are usually functionally horrible. Flyers want reliability, convenience and comfort, not deafening, inefficient echo chambers. Give me good coffee, carpeted floors (no terrazzo, please!) and a business class lounge.

[202_Cyclist]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

i know businesses are pitching in, but still -- higher airport fees to fly in an era of rapid inflation -- yay!

That is not accurate. The federal Passenger Facility Charge has been capped at $4.50 for about twenty years.

Local airport operators assess various rates and charges to airlines but market forces limit what they can charge.