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Originally Posted by trofirhen
Yes I think you are 100% correct. My next question would be: WHICH route or routes do you see as the best for this? If it's the IWMB can it support the extra lane width and added weight of rrt? Big-time addition.
(I am assuming that you prefer the purple and gold routes over the Lonsdale or Stanley Park Park tunnels.) as these are too $$$$$. I refer to the necessary major IWMBridge re-engineering. Surely a "must."
Or ... are the western, tunneled lines to West Van and Lonsdale included in your idea as well. Imagine it!! All the lines are built out to the max. What amazing inter-city and interregional transportation Metro Vancouver would have!
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The Norgate option underneath Stanley Park was actually identified as the cheapest overall, as Burrard Inlet is actually relatively shallow there.
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Originally Posted by FarmerHaight
Plus, a NS line would go through Burnaby, Vancouver, North Van (City and District) and West Van. Burnaby and North Van would benefit the most, but compared to other lines like 41/49 and KGB where only one municipality would be directly served, a NS line would kill five birds with one stone.
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It's not the number of municipalities, it's the number of people.
Also, to service Vancouver, NS, and Burnaby, you'd have to build 26 km of track, or about the entire current Millennium Line of track.
That's going to take a
very long while.
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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut
Willingdon is anchored by the Expo and Millennium, while Hastings is on its own for all 11km; a second gondola is not part of Transport 2050, and would be a very weak connection to the rest of the network. We've been over this in the fantasy thread.
South Van has many more options for getting around than North Van does.
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Hastings apparently has more than enough riders without anchoring.
Willingdon also connects Hastings to the rest of the network as well.
Ditto any future FTDA additions (which are allowed and have been done before via amendments.)
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And nobody anywhere is suggesting SkyTrain to White Rock these days – it’s very far, very low-density, and very NIMBY, so the pitch is almost always a faster bus.
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https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/cana...richmond-delta
https://globalnews.ca/news/4445303/s...rock-over-lrt/
And yes, Doug McCallum is out of office, but the idea of extending SkyTrain to White Rock or Ladner comes up all the time in popular discussions.
Though TBF, the South Surrey is not all NIMBY.
It's mostly just White Rock itself, Crescent Beach and Elgin.
(Basically the western and southernmost parts of South Surrey, near the coast.)
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Since the party that likes more rapid transit over more highways is in charge and will likely stay in charge, guess which one the North Shore will probably get?
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John Hogan was a very unique leader that both side of the political spectrum could get behind.
BC NDP has been losing support to BC United ever since he left.
The center-right has also been historically the dominant political faction in BC.
Assuming BC United will never get into power within the next decade is...quite bold, to say the least.
Especially since people are not single-issue voters.
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Yes: again, Metrotown to the nearest interchange is much more free-flowing than Lonsdale or Park Royal. A single kilometre on the North Shore at rush hour is as long as three or more in Burnaby.
As for Brentwood, a large part of its traffic is from Vancouver, Metrotown or the North Shore, none of which can currently be reached easily by transit; once Arbutus and the Willingdon RB open for business, one can expect the SkyTrain station to get much busier.
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Maximum travel times from Metrotown at peak to Hwy 1: 22 min
Maximum travel time from Brentwood at peak to Hwy 1: 5 min
Maximum travel time from Phibbs at peak to Hwy 1: Negligible (duh)
Maximum travel time from Lynn Valley at peak to Hwy 1: 7 min
Maximum travel time from Park Royal at peak to Hwy 1: 7 min
I am justified in comparing Brentwood directly to the NS centers.
130 is already pretty close to the minimum service and priority levels of the R-buses due to the unusually large number of priority lanes on its corridor for a non-R-bus line.
It also doesn't explain how every other Town Center station other than Coquitlam and Port Moody have higher ridership.
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You can’t cut Hastings or Willingdon from Marine Drive, because many of those commuters are one and the same. Nor can you judge the North Shore by park and rides in Surrey, because most of both future populations will be along transit corridors.
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You can't terminate the PoCo extension in PoCo instead of going all the way to Maple Ridge by that standard.
Same thing with KGB/White Rock, as R1 is likely to be extended to White Rock soon, as it is within the Phase 1 R-bus plans and is in preliminary planning:
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/rapi...rey-white-rock
I find this argument dumb.
We
know the vast majority of people get off before crossing the 2nd Narrows.
Just follow demand.