Canadian Twin Cities

[Franco401]

If we're counting towns, Chatham and Newcastle were twins until incorporated into Miramichi in 1995.

[gatt]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Rouyn-Noranda
Chicoutimi-Jonquiere
Moncton-Dieppe
Halifax-Dartmouth
Sydney-Glace Bay
Kitchener-Waterloo (and Cambridge)

rouyn and noranda is the same city since 1986.chicoutimi and jonquiere is the same city since 2002.not sure for the others.

[gatt]

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Trois-Rivières and Shawinigan?

no!

[SpongeG]

how about tri-cities

Coquitlam, Port Moody and Port Coquitlam form the tri-cities in the Greater Vancouver area

[SpongeG]

wikipedia only lists 4 for Canada:

Halifax and Dartmouth, Nova Scotia[n 1]
Kitchener and Waterloo, Ontario
Ottawa, Ontario and Gatineau, Quebec[n 2]
Battleford and North Battleford, Saskatchewan[n 3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_cities

and three that involce international boundaries

Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada; Niagara Falls, New York, United States
North Portal, Saskatchewan, Canada; Portal, North Dakota, United States
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada; Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, United States

[SignalHillHiker]

Paradise is now over 20,000 people. That's the minimum to be a city in NL.

They are now polling residents to see if they should do it. If it happens, we'll have three cities in the CMA - and one town with a larger population than 2/3 cities.

[Franco401]

Moncton/Dieppe has already been mentioned as a pretty obvious example, but I would count it as a triple city with Riverview, which is technically a town but far exceeds the requirements for a city in NB and would be the 5th in the province.

[Nouvellecosse]

I don't think Dieppe is actually a real city because it doesn't seem to even have a downtown or anything. Although I'm definitely not a Greater Moncton expert.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

I don't think Dieppe is actually a real city because it doesn't seem to even have a downtown or anything. Although I'm definitely not a Greater Moncton expert.

Dieppe has 25,000 people and is an incorporated city. It is NB's 8th city.

I agree with the concept that greater Moncton is a tri-city (even though Riverview is still incorporated only as a town). Riverview has 20,000 people and meets the minimum standards for being a city in NB.

There is an increasing tendency to for the local media to refer to greater Moncton as the "tri-city area".

[Nouvellecosse]

What I meant was I was wondering what qualifies it as something distinct rather than just a part of Greater Moncton? There are many metro areas with secondary municipalities of that size or larger that are considered basically suburbs.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

What I meant was I was wondering what qualifies it as something distinct rather than just a part of Greater Moncton? There are many metro areas with secondary municipalities of that size or larger that are considered basically suburbs.

Riverview is basically a suburb - it's a bedroom community.

Dieppe on the other hand has a strong economic base. It might not have a downtown per se, but they're trying to build one. Dieppe also has Champlain Place (the regional mall), the Greater Moncton International Airport and a large industrial park. Economically, Dieppe is probably the 4th most important municipality in the province (after Moncton itself, SJ and Freddy).

[Nouvellecosse]

Ah yes, Champlain place (and formerly Crystal Palace). There've been many a time when I "went to Moncton" and never actually set foot in Moncton for that very reason. lol

[Architype]

Here are some that were overlooked in NL. They aren't technically cities, but could be, or seem to fit with the idea:

Grand Falls-Windsor
Happy Valley-Goose Bay
Channel-Port Aux Basques
Portugal Cove-St. Phillips
Labrador City - Wabush

NL. is full of amalgamated and conglomerated towns.

[Dmajackson]

Halifax/Dartmouth and Moncton/Dieppe/Riverview are the obvious examples in the Maritimes but there are more;

New Glasgow/Stellarton/Trenton
Truro/Bible Hill
Saint Stephen/Calais (Maine)
North Sydney/Sydney Mines
Kingston/Greenwood

[1overcosc]

These are small towns, but I think Embrun & Russell in Eastern Ontario fit the bill.

They are very close together (only about 2-3km of rural space separating them and most of that will be filled in with sprawl in the next decade, there's already approvals for half of it), and form the same municipality.

There is a historic language disparity between the two. Embrun is historically francophone and Russell is historically anglophone. Embrun has gotten way more anglophone with population growth and assimilation of franco-Ontarians; in 2011 it was 40% English speaking and that number is going to hit >50% by the end of the decade.

Despite the language disparity, the two places are quite similar culturally. They're also very interdependent on each other. Most services/business are available only in one and not the other thus forming a single local economy.

Demographically, both communities have very large proportions of their people commuting to Ottawa (~80%), and most of those people are white collar workers largely in the public sector. As a result the communities are a lot wealthier and more educated than you'd expect of towns like that. It's the one rural area in Eastern Ontario where sedans considerably outnumber pickup trucks.

Despite being Ottawa exurbs, they have origins as historic villages and they each have a downtown.

[MolsonExport]

Drumbo and Innerkip? A couple of two-wagon towns on the same exit of the 401 between Wootstock and KW?


Drumbo-Innerkip is for lovers.

globscot

[theman23]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Drumbo and Innerkip? A couple of two-wagon towns on the same exit of the 401 between Wootstock and KW?


Drumbo-Innerkip is for lovers.
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globscot

I've driven that stretch numerous times, and have never noticed that exit.

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

and three that involce international boundaries


North Portal, Saskatchewan, Canada; Portal, North Dakota, United States

I just checked and about 150 people live in both cities. With respectively 25x and 7x the population I don't see any reason not to include Stanstead and Derby Line to this list. It is essentially the same city with the border cutting it in half, even the library in separated in two.

[Laceoflight]

You could also add those 3 couples for Quebec.

Originally Posted by Laceoflight

(C) Me.

They are more like twin villages. They're linked together with ferry services across the river.

A lot of Quebec's twin cities merged.

For example :

• Rouyn and Noranda (now Rouyn-Noranda)

• Chicoutimi and Jonquière (now Saguenay)

• Baie-Comeau and Hauterive (now Baie-Comeau)

• Trois-Rivières and Cap-de-la-Madeleine (now Trois-Rivières)

• Sorel and Tracy (now Sorel-Tracy)

• Vaudreuil and Dorion (now Vaudreuil-Dorion)

• Victoriaville and Arthabaska (now Victoriaville)

• Saint-Jean and Iberville (now Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu) (were often referred to as the villes-soeurs - sister cities)

• Stanstead and Rock Island (now Stanstead) (They still form a kind of international city couple along with Derby Line, VT)

• Shawinigan, Shawinigan-Sud and Grand-Mère (kind of tri-cities, now Shawinigan)

Some are still co-existing :

• Beloeil (+McMasterville) and Mont-Saint-Hilaire (+Otterburn Park)

• Chambly and Richelieu

• Saint-Rémi and Saint-Michel

• Pierreville and Saint-François-du-Lac

Could maybe be considered as twin cities (I'll let people living there tell us if it's the case) :

• La Malbaie and Clermont

• Sainte-Adèle and Saint-Sauveur

• Québec and Lévis ?? (Don't know, it's a common association, though Québec is bigger and obviously the capital... Kind of like Ottawa and Gatineau)

• Terrebonne and Mascouche?

• Maybe Asbestos and Danville

Bref.... Nothing comparable to Minneapolis and Saint Paul, for example.

[le calmar]

I don't know. I feel like almost every city on your list is far stretching the definition of twin cities. IMO they have to be connected to each other, depend of each other to be considered as such. Ideally be similarily sized too, but it's not always necessary. Gatineau is smaller than Ottawa, but with their downtowns so close to each other just across the river and with all the people commuting from one city to the other, I think they deserve the title of twin cities.