Atlanta Project Thread IV - Page 299

Terminus · #**5961** Posted **Jul 21, 2021, 10:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by daharris80

Sounds like a NIMBY. Just kidding. But in all seriousness, if a casino is not healthy for the neighborhood why do you think people in Midtown, Buckhead or "down by the airport" want one in their 'hood?

Simple. Those areas have a more balanced mix of existing uses. Downtown should not be the dumping ground for attractions. It's terrible urban policy. The concept of a "tourist district" is just bad city planning.

smArTaLlone · #**5962** Posted **Jul 21, 2021, 11:41 PM**

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...Pos=0#cxrecs_s

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Thrive Residential, a subsidiary of Pennsylvania-based homebuilding giant Toll Brothers, is planning the project. It would include 275 for-sale condominiums and townhomes and approximately 450 apartments. All of the units would be market-rate.

Thrive seeks to rezone the site at 285 Mayson Ave. NE to allow for the development.

sunking1056 · #**5963** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 4:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by terminus

simple. Those areas have a more balanced mix of existing uses. Downtown should not be the dumping ground for attractions. It's terrible urban policy. The concept of a "tourist district" is just bad city planning.

thank you

He's Back · #**5964** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 3:24 PM**

Olorin · #**5965** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 3:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by He's Back

Lol - nah, not downtown, maybe by the airport - agree with those above that casinos have negative impact on poorer communities, etc - I don't want to live in wannabe Vegas

He's Back · #**5966** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 4:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Olorin

Lol - nah, not downtown, maybe by the airport - agree with those above that casinos have negative impact on poorer communities, etc - I don't want to live in wannabe Vegas

Negative impact on poorer communities? The average Casino salary in the United States is $68,366 as of June 28, 2021. Not to mention most jobs don't require a college degree and they come with full benefits. Then factor in each Casino hires between 2,500 to 5,000 employees. From my perspective a Casino would help poorer communities. Additionally, Casinos have to pay at least 40% of their revenue to City and State taxes.

https://www1.salary.com/Casino-salaries.html

bryantm3 · #**5967** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 4:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by edg1

I don't see why people are against a casino but its ok to buy a lottery ticket. Thing is we are all adults and you don't have to go to the casino if you don't like it. Heck I don't gamble but the city should have it at least for the tourist in Atlanta and for the people in GA that leaves GA to go to surrounding states and spend money in those states instead of keeping the money here. I don't drink or smoke weed but just because I don't doesn't mean that I'm against Atlanta banning alcohol even though alcohol causes more problems than gambling. As long as it a Vegas level 5 star hotel Im cool with it

Honestly, the lottery bothers me— especially the new online lottery they are advertising on TV- now you dpn't have to go down to the corner to play, the state is fooling people out of their cash wherever they are. In essence it is a regressive tax.

"Down by the airport" is really no better. I live in East Point and worked at the airport nights. Tons of people struggling, it is a nightly occurance to find people sleeping in the terminal.

pawelra · #**5968** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 5:12 PM**

I agree with Atl3k and sooner or later it will happen. There will always be people who like to have a little fun, personally its not for me but I have nothing against that especially if its going to be good looking building with a hotel, it will only improve area.

Terminus · #**5969** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by bryantm3

Honestly, the lottery bothers me— especially the new online lottery they are advertising on TV- now you dpn't have to go down to the corner to play, the state is fooling people out of their cash wherever they are. In essence it is a regressive tax.

"Down by the airport" is really no better. I live in East Point and worked at the airport nights. Tons of people struggling, it is a nightly occurance to find people sleeping in the terminal.

I was thinking at the airport, on one of the parking lots. Similar to the planned hotel there. Everything immediately around the airport is a commercial wasteland - and FAA regs prohibit housing.

He's Back · #**5970** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Terminus

I was thinking at the airport, on one of the parking lots. Similar to the planned hotel there. Everything immediately around the airport is a commercial wasteland - and FAA regs prohibit housing.

Six West is adjacent to the Airport and it is a mixed-use development with office, hotel, apartments, SFH and townhouses on 311 acres.

Olorin · #**5971** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by He's Back

Negative impact on poorer communities? The average Casino salary in the United States is $68,366 as of June 28, 2021. Not to mention most jobs don't require a college degree and they come with full benefits. Then factor in each Casino hires between 2,500 to 5,000 employees. From my perspective a Casino would help poorer communities. Additionally, Casinos have to pay at least 40% of their revenue to City and State taxes.

https://www1.salary.com/Casino-salaries.html

I appreciate you posting links that support your view, I could easily do the same. In my opinion, the Lottery and Casinos negatively impact poor communities and also prey upon them in some aspects.

If they pass it, so be it. I just don't want it downtown. I also admit my family has been negatively impacted by gambling so I'm just not a fan in general, though I support a person's right to participate in what they choose if it isn't hurting others, etc.

This definitely has a better chance of happening than that BS wiener tower you've been pushing on your twitter though, so there's that feather in your cap

He's Back · #**5972** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Olorin

I appreciate you posting links that support your view, I could easily do the same. In my opinion, the Lottery and Casinos negatively impact poor communities and also prey upon them in some aspects.

If they pass it, so be it. I just don't want it downtown. I also admit my family has been negatively impacted by gambling so I'm just not a fan in general, though I support a person's right to participate in what they choose if it isn't hurting others, etc.

This definitely has a better chance of happening than that BS wiener tower you've been pushing on your twitter though, so there's that feather in your cap

How dare you talk like that about the wiener tower like that! FYI - It is called the C(l)OCK Tower. It is gonna have a big watch at the top.

He's Back · #**5973** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 8:01 PM**

Someone sent me a tip the Midtown W hotel is being rebranded to a Hilton Curio hotel and they are planning a substantial renovation.

Terminus · #**5974** Posted **Jul 22, 2021, 11:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by He's Back

Six West is adjacent to the Airport and it is a mixed-use development with office, hotel, apartments, SFH and townhouses on 311 acres.

That is all out of the FAA limitations. Trust me. I have worked closely with them and you’re not allowed to build residential under most of the flight path. If you look at the plan you’ll see that the housing is far to the north, outside of the cone.

Additionally, any property owned by the Atlanta airport likely has similar deed limitations. That is why all the stuff just north of the runway, in Hapeville, is so piecemeal. Any property that was once owned by the airport cannot typically have housing on it.

atlHawks · #**5975** Posted **Jul 23, 2021, 7:43 PM**

Wasn't sure where to post this.
Link

ATLMidcity · #**5976** Posted **Jul 23, 2021, 10:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by atlHawks

Wasn't sure where to post this.
Link

Interesting map, but the divisions in the legend is way off IMHO.
I think the map would be easier to group if the ranges were changed to something like:
1-5 (states with small/medium metro cities)
6-14 (states with medium/large metro cities)
15-20 (states with 1 dominate/large metro cities)
21-49 (states with 1 or 2 dominate/large metro cities)
50-100 (states with multiple large metro cities)
100+ (states dominated by 1 supersized metro city)

Thoughts???

He's Back · #**5977** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 12:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Olorin

Lol - nah, not downtown, maybe by the airport - agree with those above that casinos have negative impact on poorer communities, etc - I don't want to live in wannabe Vegas

Just Sayin'

Global footwear giant Nike exploring Atlanta for office space

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https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ce-in-atl.html

jayden · #**5978** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 1:36 PM**

So Nike is looking for office space not retail space? That makes a big difference, no?

He's Back · #**5979** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by jayden

So Nike is looking for office space not retail space? That makes a big difference, no?

The ABC said it is for 100 people, but I heard it was for 300+.

He's Back · #**5980** Posted **Jul 29, 2021, 2:30 PM**

Nike

My source just told me Nike is taking WeWork space @ 881 Peachtree. This is just temporary while they wait for office space to be built. Ultimately they are planning 300K sqft.