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Old Posted Jan 28, 2017, 4:57 PM
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Edmonton does have a true ring road circling the entire city without any traffic lights.

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Montréal has a ring road when we think about it.
From Ottawa - north shore of Rivière des Outaouais, A-50, via A-15, via A-640 and A-40 and you're out of Montréal.
From Ottawa - south shore of rivière des Outaouais, 417, via A-40, via A-30 and A-20 and you're out of Montréal.
From Toronto - 401, A-20, A-30, A-20 , out of Montréal.

there is a bridge in Hawkesbury
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2017, 8:04 PM
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Multiple highways that make up a jagged, half assed "ring" are not ring roads. Hell even Toronto could claim a ring road if you wanted to do it that way.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2017, 8:09 PM
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Multiple highways that make up a jagged, half assed "ring" are not ring roads. Hell even Toronto could claim a ring road if you wanted to do it that way.
even in the US, their bypass highways are inside city limits, like Edmonton. = traffic
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2017, 8:40 PM
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One of the worst bottlenecks in Vancouver is finally getting some relief - four collector lanes flanking the four lane highway 1 so that local east-west north shore traffic doesn't have to get on and off the highway (in red).


http://prod-admin1.glacier.atex.cniweb.n...ntain%20highway%20interchange%202017.pdf

Far from a perfect solution and about 15 years too late but the best that can be done considering the highway/bridge goes through a first nations reserve.
     
     
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Multiple highways that make up a jagged, half assed "ring" are not ring roads. Hell even Toronto could claim a ring road if you wanted to do it that way.
412 --> 407 --> 403 is essentially a ring road, although the southern half is broken by Lake Ontario.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2017, 3:47 AM
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I believe the only 4 stack in Canada is the 400/407 in Vaughan. Might be wrong though.
It is.

I find the word "stack" get used pretty loosely nowadays and gets applied to any kind of "spaghetti" interchange with multiple levels of ramps.

Traditionally, the term "stack interchange" denotes a 4-level interchange where all movements are facilitated by directional ramps (not loops) that exit and merge on the right and cross in a symmetrical way like this:


The ramps usually cross at the same point giving it a layered appearance (freeway, freeway, left turning traffic, left turning traffic), i.e. the ramps are "stacked", hence the name. Some stacks have additional HOV ramps and frontage road levels added as well but they all have that same basic topology.

The 407/427, 407/410 and 407/404 interchanges don't meet that definition (technically they are "cloverstacks", combinations of stacks and cloverleafs, but they are designed to be easily modified into stacks), neither does the Turcot interchange but you could make an argument that the BC99/Stevenson interchange sort of does. Of course it's obviously not a true stack (it's only three levels and the directions of traffic reverse on Stevenson) but you could argue that it's design reflects the "spirit" of a stack: it has symmetrical directional ramps for all movements and if you look at the aerial view, you can see that distinctive shape of a stack. The fact that they managed to do it with one few level is what makes it interesting to me. It's a new twist on an old design and a clever idea. Whether it will drive well, I can't say.

But that's what I was talking about when I said it could be argued to be Canada's second stack. Maybe I'm the only one that had that thought? It's the kind of ridiculous hair-splitting only a hardcore roadgeek would ever bother to engage in.
     
     
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the new Turcot will include reserved bus lanes, all the way to Route 136 ,

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even in the US, their bypass highways are inside city limits, like Edmonton. = traffic
Both Calgary, and Edmonton aren't huge cities when viewed in a North American context. Their ring roads were built with future expansion in mind. Despite the fact that their rings are situated in fairly close proximity to each cities countryside line, I doubt either road will really have any significant traffic problems for a long, long time (if ever).
     
     
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New video !
Enjoy the stunning Maritime Landscapes
of the Magdalen Islands along Route 199.
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Frank your vids are great!
     
     
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New video !
Enjoy the stunning Maritime Landscapes
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What!?!! WE WANT MORE.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2017, 11:09 AM
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Both Calgary, and Edmonton aren't huge cities when viewed in a North American context. Their ring roads were built with future expansion in mind. Despite the fact that their rings are situated in fairly close proximity to each cities countryside line, I doubt either road will really have any significant traffic problems for a long, long time (if ever).
Well, the southwest leg of the Henday is well over capacity and has been for quite some time. Provincial projections were way low-balled.

That being said...yeah, it's not bumper to bumper LA freeway by any means.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2017, 11:11 AM
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Awesome videos and channel Frank! There is a western counterpart to you that I discovered on YouTube a while back. I'll be checking out your catalogue now.
     
     
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New video !
Enjoy the stunning Maritime Landscapes
of the Magdalen Islands along Route 199
Wow....thanks for posting! Brings back lots of memories. The Magdalen Islands are an easy drive for me. Been there several time: 45 min to the NS-PEI Ferry. A 75 min crossing then a hour to Souris PEI. The 5 hr Magdalen Ferry is a mini-cruise!

http://www.traversierctma.ca/en/

And the beaches!! White sand and the lagoons in mid to late August......bathtub warm!

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Gorgeous video, Franks. Reminds me of Miquelon - is there any proper, dense town there like St-Pierre?

I had no idea it used to be administered with us. Also very cool to see a place where anglophones were assimilated lol.

Roads look to be in very good condition for a place that freezes and thaws so much.
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Well, the southwest leg of the Henday is well over capacity and has been for quite some time. Provincial projections were way low-balled.

That being said...yeah, it's not bumper to bumper LA freeway by any means.
But I think the point is there is room for significant expansion there, at least two lanes in each direction.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2017, 4:15 PM
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The Southwest leg was originally built with at-grade intersection as well, no?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2017, 4:20 PM
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Frank your vids are great!
Thanks ! I am glad you enjoy them.
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