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Old Posted Sep 28, 2006, 7:02 PM
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because the owner of the luggage store played the "its historical" card.
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What is the owner's stake in playing the historical card? I would think in a new sleek pocket below a huge luxury hotel (fitting for a luggage store) commercial development would be greater for business. I don't believe anyone considers the original building an architectual gem. He would be both paid for the land and allowed to continue operating business.
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While I agree with you on this, all I am suggesting is that instead of another Grove or Citywalk, I think there is alot of potential to restore buildings downtown in a similar fashion as this project in San Francisco. And even though the Sanfrancisco Center is an indoor mall, I think it has the feel of being open to the outdoors with the huge wall of glass windows. Imagine if they were to open up Macy's plaza in a similar fashion, or the former May Co. building on Broadway-
The Coulter & Mandell Building are being developed into an indoor shopping center. It's a lot smaller than the San Francisco project mentioned, but it's right near Macy's Plaza.
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What are we going to do with Macy's Plaza? Seriously, SOMETHING must be done.
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that building is not viable for residencies because the building is too deep and the inner units will not have windows. at least, that is what potential developers said and is why they have stayed away from it.
That's unfortunate. Maybe the May Co building is best being offices on top.

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I think that building would make a great IKEA or Target.
On Labor Day, I went to my first IKEA in years (the Burbank one) and by the time I was done walking through the maze I needed a stiff drink.

COMPLETE AND TOTAL MADNESS!

Nonetheless, the problem with IKEA is you have to drive there (or take a taxi from there), because a lot of the products are far too big and heavy to carry home. It would make an already horrible traffic nightmare worse. Target less so, but still somewhat.

Somewhat related, when a large retailer sets up shop in a place like downtown they shouldn't leave a big footprint. They shouldn't hog an entire street with ground-floor retail stretching the entire block. Hopefully if the store is that big and needs that much space the bulk of it would be on upper levels or below ground, so that the street can have a variety of stores, allowing the small business community to profit from the major retailer's massive marketing campaign that has made it a retail anchor.

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What is the owner's stake in playing the historical card? I would think in a new sleek pocket below a huge luxury hotel (fitting for a luggage store) commercial development would be greater for business. I don't believe anyone considers the original building an architectual gem. He would be both paid for the land and allowed to continue operating business.
That's what I was hoping for.
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^^Re: Macy's Plaza, add some retail entrances around the three streets with none at all... and reorient the retail inside to face the street after that's accomplished. Add some really big, bright signs at the street or second-story level... other than that, I don't think there's much hope for it. That's a major project in and of itself right there...
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Sell it to Westfield.
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I think what a lot of urban cities do with stores like Ikea or Home Depot is that the store will ship your items to your house. That way you dont need a car, and its not like the street can accomodate one anyway.
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^ Make sense. But wouldn't it be better if the store was east of Central or even in South Park, as opposed to 8th and Broadway?
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Aren't there plans for Big Box Retail in South Park? Like, Wash/Fig area?
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Capitol Records Tower Sold

By DANIEL MILLER

Los Angeles Business Journal Staff

The Capitol Records Tower, one of Hollywood’s most enduring landmarks, has been sold, but it also will retain its original use as an office building.

Capitol Records Inc.’s parent, EMI Group PLC, has agreed to sell the 13-story building and adjacent property to Argent Ventures LLC for $50 million. As part of the deal, the famed circular building will not be converted to condominiums as had been speculated but will be leased back to EMI so Capitol’s operations can remain there.

However, New York-based Argent Ventures, a commercial developer and property owner, will develop the remaining land on the two-acre parcel at Vine Street and Yucca Street, and a mixed-use development with a residential component is one possibility. The sale also includes a parking lot on Argyle Avenue.

Capitol Records and Capitol Studios will continue to occupy the tower at 1750 Vine St. as well as the Gogerty Building. EMI has agreed to a long-term lease with Argent, though terms of that deal have not been disclosed, said Chris Bonbright, chief executive at Ramsey-Shilling Commercial Real Estate Services Inc.

“One of the strong qualities of the buyer is that they are historically sensitive,” said Bonbright, who represented Argent in the deal.

Jeanne Meyer, EMI spokeswoman, said that the company did not actively seek a sale, but looked over several offers. “We made it very clear to several interested parties that we were only interested in the sale with an opportunity to remain in the building for many years to come,” she said.

The tower was built in 1956 and is meant to look like a stack of vinyl records. Musicians like Frank Sinatra and The Beach Boys recorded there.
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^Excellent news. I was hoping it wouldn't be turned into condos. Hollywood needs all the office space it can get. And if the mixed-use development is office/residential/retail, that would be great.
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Hollywood Attracting Entertainment Office Tenants

Proximity to studios lures tenants from the Westside

BY KEELEY WEBSTER
CREJ Staff Writer

Longtime Los Angeles residents marvel at the changes wrought in Hollywood as developers reinvent the district block by block. But one of the quieter changes may not even be seen by Hollywood residents. Companies with ties to the film industry are moving from the Westside to office space in Hollywood. The migration is driving vacancy down and rents up, making early area office owners a pretty penny.

"Some of the old office buildings have been bought for conversion to residential," said Howard Sadowsky, vice chair and partner in Creative Environments of Hollywood Inc. "The demand for office wasn't there. Now it is, and it is creating a dual demand for space, both office as well as residential."

The growing demand is allowing office owners to increase asking rents. In fact, the Hollywood/Wilshire Corridor market experienced the greatest annual increase in average asking lease rates in Los Angeles County in the second quarter, with rates escalating 19.5 percent, from $1.79 to $2.14 per square foot, according to CB Richard Ellis.

"Hollywood is edgy, it's hip, it's the place to be," said Bob Safai, a Madison Partners principal. "Combine that with the lack of office space and increasing rents on the Westside. It's made buildings in secondary locations primary choices."

Vacancy rates in the Hollywood/Wilshire Corridor, at 9.3 percent, offered more opportunity than the neighboring Westside office market, which posted a 6.9 percent vacancy rate, according to a CB Richard Ellis market report. However, both locations remain tighter than downtown Los Angeles' 13.7 percent vacant market. The average asking lease rates for Westside office tenants were $3 per square foot, and Hollywood/Wilshire tenants were paying $2.14 per square foot in the second quarter, according to the CB Richard Ellis report.

Safai expects to see Hollywood office rents increase by 10 percent to 15 percent over the next 18 months, because of a lack of inventory. Smart money, like Broadreach Capital Partners LLC, is making bets on this trend, he said. Broadreach purchased in April the 200,000-square-foot CNN building at 6430 Sunset Blvd. from ScanlanKemperBard Cos. for $52 million. ScanlanKemperBard sold the 14-story CNN Tower for an $18 million profit to Broadreach after holding the building for less than two years.

From Pariah to Prom Queen

Few would have believed in the mid-1990s that the high-end W Hotel would want to locate in what was then one of the seediest areas of Los Angeles. However, in November, Gatehouse Capital in partnership with HEI Hospitality plans to begin construction on a 300-room W hotel in a mixed-use project at Hollywood Boulevard and Vine Street that includes 150 condominiums, 375 rental units and 50,000 square feet of retail.

"Back in the mid-1990s, Hollywood was a pariah," Safai said. "No one believed in the gentrification of Hollywood. It wasn't ever going to be a place people would live like they live in SoHo in New York."

But now, not only are Angelenos willing to pay top dollar for a condominium in Hollywood, but the amenities and atmosphere are luring companies away from the beach. "Within the last three or four years, they started realizing the Westside might not be the best location," Sadowsky said. "Although the air is cleaner and it's cooler, being in Hollywood is better, given the proximity to the studios."

With the majority of new development in Hollywood focused on retail and residential projects, the majority of office tenants is going into existing buildings or expanding within ones they occupy, Sadowsky said. It's not necessarily big-name companies looking for space but smaller entrepreneurial companies seeking 3,000 square feet to 5,000 square feet. Technicolor is one notable exception. The digital imaging company will double its space by moving from the 45,000-square-foot building it occupies at the intersection of Sunset Boulevard and Gower Street into a 115,000-square-foot building on Sunset Boulevard, Sadowsky said.

However, he estimated that as much as 80 percent of the live/work lofts on Hollywood Boulevard are being filled by entrepreneurial companies serving the movie industry. These include casting agencies, pre-production businesses and computer animators. "The market is so tight, they could use anything: more housing, retail and office," Safai said. "There is unbelievable demand in Hollywood."

Safai brokered the sale of the 300,000-square-foot 6255 Sunset Blvd. three times since 1998 and watched the price escalate with each new deal. In 1998, a private owner sold the building, which was 65 percent leased at the time, to Kennedy Wilson for $28 million. Kennedy Wilson turned around in 2000 and sold the building for $41 million to the real estate arm of The Goldman Sachs Group Inc. In 2005, the building sold again, to Archon Group LP for $80 million.

Lynwood Fields, a partner with Madison Partners, also brokered the $66 million sale of Columbia Square, the CBS broadcasting complex located at 6121 Sunset Blvd., to Las Vegas-based developer Molasky Pacific LLC on Aug. 1. The mix of retail, office and residential planned for Columbia Square hasn't been determined because Molasky just began working with the city on plans for the building, Safai said.

Such well-known television shows as "I Love Lucy" and "The Jack Benny Show" have been broadcast from the studio, originally built in 1938 as a CBS Radio studio. CBS plans to relocate operators for its CBS Studio Center to nearby Studio City. "They are going to go through the process and build something in mutual agreement with the city," Safai said. "It could be mixed use. It could be multifamily. It could be office. It still has to go through the development process, and there is demand on all fronts."

This demand is being reflected in an increase of Hollywood land prices. Land prices have never ventured north of $200, but now Sadowsky said developers have purchased unentitled land for $200 to $275 per square foot and entitled land for more than $300 per square foot to build condominiums, apartments or offices. "Hollywood has always been one of the weaker markets in Los Angeles," Sadowsky said. "Rarely did anyone build any new buildings. Now Hollywood has been legitimized by an increasing number of developers who are recognizing the opportunities."

To believers, Hollywood has the 24/7 lifestyle to which downtown is aspiring. "The production companies are moving back; the people are finding this is a good place to live," Sadowsky said. "We have the restaurants, the nightclubs and hotels already. The 24/7 atmosphere they are trying to create in downtown Los Angeles already exists in Hollywood."
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Hollywood Learns There's No Place Like Home
The entertainment industry is warming to a newly refurbished and trendy Hollywood.
By Roger Vincent, Times Staff Writer
10:29 PM PDT, September 29, 2006

Hollywood wants to be in Hollywood again.

After decades of drift, when entertainment businesses turned off by the Hollywood district's decay decamped for other neighborhoods such as Santa Monica and Burbank, many in the industry are electing to stay, expand or move in.

The latest player to commit to remain in the industry's historical home is cable giant CNN, which confirmed Friday that it planned to retain its Los Angeles bureau on Sunset Boulevard after contemplating an exit. On Thursday, Capitol Records said it would stay in its landmark tower for years to come.

Many entertainment companies believe that Hollywood has been sufficiently refurbished after years of neglect that gave the district an unsavory reputation and an undesirable address. Now, the streetscape is improving and trendy retailers, bars and restaurants are thriving.

"It's the epicenter for nightlife, and young entertainment executives from New York and Chicago would rather stay in Hollywood now than Santa Monica because that's where entertainment is in the evening," said Frank Buckley of Ramsey-Shilling Co., one of the real estate brokers who put together Capitol's deal to sell its landmark Hollywood home while agreeing to remain as a tenant.

Industry tenants have helped drive Hollywood vacancy rates below 10% in all types of office and industrial properties, brokers said, and rents were expected to rise quickly as competition for space heats up.

CNN considered moving to the San Fernando Valley or the Wilshire Boulevard corridor east of Beverly Hills before renewing its lease for the next 15 years in Hollywood, said real estate broker Robert Chavez of Guardian Commercial Realty, who represented the cable broadcaster.

CNN agreed to pay $24 million to stay in the 40,000 square feet at 6430 Sunset Blvd., home of "Larry King Live" and other broadcasts. The building is almost fully leased, said David Simon, managing director of owner Broadreach Capital Partners.

Broadreach, a Palo Alto-based investment firm, bought the 14-story building for more than $50 million this year. It is joining with CNN to make about $35 million of improvements to the public spaces and broadcast facilities starting early next year, Simon said.

"We're very bullish on the market," he said. "Media and entertainment-related companies of all sorts are trying to find homes here and it's tough right now."

Buckley of Ramsey-Shilling calculated that potential tenants, including half a dozen well-known in the entertainment business, are hunting for close to 1 million square feet to rent in Hollywood. One of his clients is Hollywood-based marketing firm Trailer Park, which is seeking an additional 150,000 square feet in the area.

Other companies are searching quietly, brokers said. Among them are divisions of Viacom Inc., corporate parent of Paramount Pictures Corp., MTV Networks Co. and Comedy Central. Also looking is concert promoter Live Nation Inc.

Part of Hollywood's appeal is its central location.

"You can get anywhere quickly from there," CNN spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said. "So that location is quite good for a news organization."

Hollywood is still a small node among the region's entertainment industry sites, which snake almost contiguously from Burbank, Glendale and Universal City through Hollywood, West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica and Playa Vista, said broker Carl Muhlstein of Cushman & Wakefield, who represents many entertainment businesses.

"Hollywood has always been dead center and now it's rebounding," Mulhstein said. "It has leveled the playing field with a lot of other submarkets in terms of amenities. It's also relatively pro-growth compared to other areas."

Los Angeles' Community Redevelopment Agency said Wednesday that it had reached an agreement with the owner of a small property on Vine Street. The deal would allow construction to begin on a $500-million mixed-use residential and retail complex, including a luxury W Hotel, adjacent to the Hollywood/Vine Metro Red Line subway station. Other hoteliers are also looking for Hollywood locations, brokers said.

"It's just a funky, cool place to be," said Jeff Kreshek, who is in charge of leasing for CIM Group Inc., one of Hollywood's largest commercial landlords.

In 2000, CIM lured TV Guide Inc. into becoming the anchor tenant in a Sunset Boulevard tower, a milestone in resurging interest in Hollywood.

This summer, Technicolor Inc. agreed to lease a new six-story office tower on the Sunset-Gower Studios lot. The building won't be completed before the end of next year.

"The lights are coming back on," Kreshek said.
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This one's kind of odd considering I just posted the last one.


Hooray for West Hollywood
Skip the kitsch, head to star territory -- and hey, isn't that Kate Bosworth?


Shelley Fralic, Vancouver Sun
Published: Saturday, September 30, 2006

LOS ANGELES - Forget Grauman's Chinese Theatre, and those cheesy concrete handprints.

Forget the double-decker bus tour of movie star homes.

Forget, too, the blocks-long Hollywood Walk of Fame, where Tom Cruise's bronze-plated star sits in the shadow of a Hooters and a Hamburger Hamlet.

Because if you really want to do Los Angeles these days, then you'll need to escape the shabby tourist trap that is Hollywood Boulevard and its tacky souvenir shops, and head west, where there's something of a Hollywood renaissance under way.

From the refurbished nightclubs along Sunset Strip to the hip, new shopping areas around Beverly Boulevard, West Hollywood is now the place to be, and be seen.

Celebrities and visitors alike are drifting toward the old haunts and hotels of yore, but also prompting an explosion of new development and hot spots to shop, sleep, dine, party and launch their new movies, television shows, CDs and books.

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The Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel, the beacon of Hollywood history, is today set against a booming backdrop of construction cranes and work sites, as loft conversions and revitalization projects score the skyline.

The vaunted hotel, just north of Sunset and across the street from the new Kodak Theater, is a majestic Spanish Revival built in the 1920s by a movie syndicate that included Douglas Fairbanks and Louis B. Mayer, to house East Coast stars shooting on location.

This is the place, with its cool dark interior and polished terra cotta tiles, where the first Academy Awards were held, where stars like Marilyn Monroe once lived, and where, more recently, movies like Beverly Hills Cop II and Charlie's Angels 2 were filmed.

Today, the hotel's famous pool, ringed by firepits, terry-covered lounges and private rooms, is home to a new generation of Hollywood royalty, the pretty young starlets and TV studs who recline poolside flanked by mojitos and hangers on.

On a mid-September weekend, the pool's Tropicana Bar is abuzz with preparation for the press junket of Jackass: Number Two.

Television crews, including host Daryn Jones of MTV Canada, jostle for position, awaiting the arrival of the movie's stars, Johnny Knoxville and Steve-O. Security is tight and even hotel guests require a wristband to enter the pool deck.

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There's no question that one comes to Hollywood, be it for business or pleasure, expecting to spot a celebrity.

The problem, of course, is that everyone is sun-tanned and skinny and looks famous and, holy cow, was that pin-thin Kate Bosworth who just walked by with an armful of shopping bags?

Probably, especially if your retail therapy finds you browsing Robertson Blvd., just before its zip code morphs into Beverly Hills.

The stores here are low-slung and modern, so hip they have names like Surly Girl, Yellowman and Camper.

It's here you'll find the Kitson empire, founded six years ago by Toronto-born Fraser Ross (Kitson's his middle name), a fashion franchise largely credited with revitalizing the once-dead retail zone.

Kitson's three stores (women, men, kids) are located within a stone's throw of each other, and are so in that rarely does a day go by without a visit from a member of the "it" crowd -- Tara Reid, Sierra, Brittany Murphy, Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie are all customers -- whose shopping expeditions are religiously recorded by paparazzi and gleefully detailed in the tabs.

Jen Cooper, the 23-year-old manager of Kitson women, is explaining that theirs is one-stop fashion shopping, from clothing, makeup, shoes and accessories.

Prices range from about $50 for a basic T-shirt to $2,500 for a Mandalay dress.

It's here the infamous "team" tee was born, brain child of the owner and, along with the store's own Kitson line, the chain's biggest seller.

Team Jessica and Team Nick shirts, at $48 US each, are moving fast these days what with locals having to choose sides between just-divorced Newlyweds Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey.

Clearly, at $30, Team Aniston and Team Brangelina shirts are on the popularity wane, though Team Paris is holding strong at $48.

"We just can't keep those things stocked," says Cooper, who adds that Madonna was in not long ago to pick up Little Miss Kitson shoes for daughter Lourdes, while Hilton recently stopped by for a little spree.

"She's just so fun and so sweet," says Cooper.

The secret to Kitson's success?

"People like shopping where they feel like celebrities shop," says Cooper.

Well that. And the publicity.

Kitson is reportedly suing US Weekly magazine for intentionally omitting references to the store in its photographs of stars shopping there.

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Just down the street from the Kitson dynasty sits one of the hottest restaurants in southern California: The Ivy.

It's here, on the outdoor patio framed by a white picket fence and shaded by umbrellas, that celebs like Lindsay Lohan and Ben Affleck come to be fed, and publicly adored.

The weekday power lunch keeps the Ivy's valet parkers hopping, as a queue of Mercedes, Rolls-Royces, Escalades, BMWs and Corvettes unloads carload after carload of bony, blonde barely-clad young women, a parade of possibilities for America's Next Top Model.

The Ivy itself a lovely place, all roses and chintz, with deferential waiters in pink Polo shirts and white Levi's jeans.

There's a $20 minimum per table, but lunch is divine, fresh and artfully presented, from the kiwi frappe to the Louisiana crab cakes and caprese salad to the chocolate truffle cake.

It's a $50 ringside seat for spotting Hollywood royalty and the paparazzi that stalk them, though on this Tuesday the pickings are slim and the waiters aren't telling.

The wonder is that Al's Newsstand, across the street, can keep up.

It's five days since the U.S. debut of Suri Cruise, spawn of TomKat, in Vanity Fair, and hawker Eddy Becerril has moved nearly 1,500 copies of the magazine.

It is by no means the newsstand's biggest seller -- Becerril's personal best in five years was last fall's VF cover featuring Jennifer Aniston. He sold 500 in one day.

"This is Hollywood," he says, with a shrug. "It's all about the divorces and, now, the babies."

A cab ride away, on Rodeo Drive, the clean streets are quiet in the afternoon heat.

A Maserati, its licence plate boasting UBER-ICH, purrs down the Drive, which is only a few blocks long and is anchored on one end by the Beverly Wilshire hotel, where Julia Roberts famously snagged Richard Gere in Pretty Woman.

Strolling in the sun, and looking not the least bit out of place, is a handsome man wearing a crisp white hospital coat, green pants and matching green surgical booties over his leather loafers. Embroidered on his chest, in script, is his name, along with MD, Plastic Surgery.

There's far more action a few miles away at The Grove, a gorgeous outdoor shopping centre with a concierge, central fountain, movie theatre, outdoor cafes and a charming trolley for those not into walking.

This is a spotless big-money complex, with Nordstrom, Barney's New York, Pottery Barn Kids, American Girl Place, Abercrombie & Fitch, Anthropologie and Barnes & Noble, and it's no surprise to see Jon Cryer, star of Two and A Half Men, waiting at the entrance while the valet fetches his car.

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While the Ivy and Koi and Mr. Chow's are where new Hollywood gets its limited calories, you really haven't fit in until you hit the drive-through at In N' Out Burger.

This fast food joint is where Britney Spears packed on all that baby weight, and where Nicole Richie makes sure photographers capture her sucking on a milkshake.

It's also where our favourite heirhead, Paris Hilton, was headed in her Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren a few weeks back, in the wee hours, when she was busted for DUI, explaining to officers that she'd had only one drink all evening and really needed a burger because she hadn't eaten.

What's all the fuss about junk food, you might wonder.

Well, how about a fresh, warm bun, lean ground beef smothered in fried onions, melted cheese and Thousand Island sauce, served up with a stack of shoestring french fries, chopped from raw potatoes and cooked in hot oil right in front of you.
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Just got back from spending a night out "everywhere." Went to Sofitel on Beverly/La Cienega for a drink, then up to Sunset Strip, and finally ended up in Hollywood on the blvd.

My conclusion? There is seriously NOTHING in LA better than Hollywood Blvd. at this moment in time if you're looking for a grittier, more "authentic" urban experience 24 hours of the day. After walking from Sofitel to Le Meridian Hotel (past the Beverly Center) to get another drink, then driving up to Sunset Strip when the clubs were already closing (around 1:30AM), I realized that it is REALLY hard for a pedestrian in LA in general.

The ONLY place that feels like a REAL city, with action, people, a variety of shops, some grit, some history, some compelling force that gives you a sense of "connection" as a pedestrian is Hollywood Blvd. We were there at 2:30AM and there were still literally TONS of people on the streets walking around. Cars honking and even street performers still playing music on the sidewalk!

I seriously hope that people in power (that fuckit up for us all) don't feel that this phenomenon is "too much" and needs to be diluted because I don't think it's enough! It would be SOO NICE if Hollywood Blvd. was completely transformed with the coolest shops (which already exists in some quantity now like smokers lounges open at 3AM).

I think Downtown LA connected by Red Line to Hollywood Blvd. will seriously be the only two places "happening" in our lifetime in LA. The Westside has been irreparably damaged by auto-oriented development and ONLY a subway down Wilshire Blvd. could help with that. Without it, the Westside is a lost cause.

What do you guys think about Hollywood Blvd? I seriously felt like it was a geniune urban environment. The people I went with (who don't care about urbanism or cities) even mentioned that they liked it and thought it reminded them of NYC.
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Hollywood definitely has the momentum right now, much moreso than downtown in my opinion. With all the talk of L.A. Live being the west coast Times Square, the only thing really close to that vision is Hollywood Blvd. I agree with you LAB that it's not enough. I would like to see even more clubs, shops, mixed-use all lighted up line the boulevard from Sycamore to Gower, all connected via the red line. And it's not just Hollywood Blvd. Sunset, Selma and Yucca are also getting infill that will make the district "two-dimensional", as compared to single-street arterial nature of a lot LA neighborhoods. In fact I would hope the vision is more like Shinjuku than Times Square. Hollywood/Highland has to be one of the busiest crosswalks in LA.
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You're right LAB, and it makes me want the Hollywood and Vine development to come even sooner so that it will spur more development in that area.

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i was there last night as well and i came to the same conclusion. i think were all crazy in a good way though! If only the bars were open till 4 or 5 it would be even better, but the fact that the development of Hollywood is not Linear, just on Hollywood or just on Sunset makes a HUGE HUGE difference. Cahuenga, Las Palmas, Vine, they all have their spots and people everywhere > IT needs to continue (it is with allt he new development) and now we need to get quick bites that stay open past 2 so that people can eat on the street, something like Duner shops in Germany or a Zankou express (made that up) or a tommy's , the more the merrier.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2006, 11:48 PM
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i always wanted to see that entire area bordered by sunset and hollywood and vine and highland being developed with nightlife, shopping and entertainment venues. it's a perfect candidate for that, because there are no single family homes (read nimby's) that would throw a fit and stand in the way of construction. unlike the sunset strip in weho, which has residential to it's immediate north and south, so you can't really expand anything there; not to mention the lack of parking and the constant problems between noisy bar patrons and residents who just wanna sleep. (yes, i know. they should have known better before moving there.)

what hollywood should do know is build a bunch of strategically placed parking structures (with groundfloor retail), to draw an even bigger crowd.

btw, i also always thought that the downtown fashion district should be made in to a barhopping nightlife district like that. i mean the crowds are already there during the day - why not give them a reason to stay and get blastered? - and no residents there either. it's always so sad to see that area completely wiped out each and every evening after it's been busy like a beehive all fucking day...how the hell is that even possible?

anyway. hollywood is definitely on it's way. let's hope the momentum continues. i like LUCKY DEVILS.
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