Saskatoon | Baydo Towers | ??m - ??m | 25-25 Floors | U/C

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[zeebra]

They are going with an elevator shaft as a core instead of shear walls, not that uncommon as you can slip form the shaft instead of building conventional formwork.

[Saskabusher]

^^Right, that's standard for a steel frame, building out from a concrete core, but have you noticed from the beginning how that concrete core is pieced together? And by the perimeter walls, I meant foundation-wise. They had some weird cast brick system they used on Broadway, but I don't think it would work here. I've tried to see down the hole. All I saw was dirt walls.... Interesting. Although it almost seems experimental, it does plod along. As long as time isn't money- Doh!

[The Bess]

I agree Time is money when you look at other projects like this one in Toronto.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/toronto-...ship-1.1987048

[The S'toon Goon]

Does anyone know how much higher it going to go? It has to be close to topped out?

Also, Baydo is obviously working at a snail's pace on this. But that said, they can sure pump out 6 storey rentals in Evergreen. I was by there recently and if my eyes didn't play tricks on me they are working on their 5th unit now. Not sure when they started the 1st but I don't think it was all that long ago.

Obviously very different builds, but the company clearly can move projects along with some urgency every now and then.

[Dalreg]

I would say steel is up to level 18? So at least 7 more to go?

[Saskabusher]

Originally Posted by Dalreg

I would say steel is up to level 18? So at least 7 more to go?

The top of the posts now is the 20th floor, so they'll add one more set of posts, which is four floors, to bring it to 24, and then make some mish-mash and top it out. It doesn't look like they have a mechanical penthouse, it's just part of the build within the 25th floor/ part. It'll be interesting to see....

[CanadianDriverYXE]

Construction Update October 22, 2023

[Saskabusher]

Wow, thanks so much for the update and perspectives CanadianDriverYXE! It's really showing up now. It'll sit between the height of The View and Hallmark Place, so maybe about 75metres? Anyway, with another tower to come and this one pushing north, I love the added density to our city.

[Crisis]

It's interesting to note that there has been plenty of criticism of the look of this development, primarily on the "tiny" windows, when compared to some of the mid-rise & high-rise residential towers that utilize a window wall system to provide a envelope that is largely glass.

The 2020 National Energy Code for Buildings (NECB) is set to be adopted by all provinces in 2024. Saskatchewan is supposed to adopt it January 1st, but I've heard rumblings that date may slip. One of the consequences of the adoption of this new code is that the amount of glass used in building envelopes will be reduced significantly. Extremely high performance glazing systems, which come with a matching extremely high cost, will be required in order to provide the "glass box" look that has been so highly desired over the past few decades. So, like it or not, the look of the Baydo Towers envelope is likely going to be typical of most new residential developments.

[FarmerHaight]

Originally Posted by Crisis

It's interesting to note that there has been plenty of criticism of the look of this development, primarily on the "tiny" windows, when compared to some of the mid-rise & high-rise residential towers that utilize a window wall system to provide a envelope that is largely glass.

The 2020 National Energy Code for Buildings (NECB) is set to be adopted by all provinces in 2024. Saskatchewan is supposed to adopt it January 1st, but I've heard rumblings that date may slip. One of the consequences of the adoption of this new code is that the amount of glass used in building envelopes will be reduced significantly. Extremely high performance glazing systems, which come with a matching extremely high cost, will be required in order to provide the "glass box" look that has been so highly desired over the past few decades. So, like it or not, the look of the Baydo Towers envelope is likely going to be typical of most new residential developments.

Glass facades have never been great for energy efficiency, which is why you typically only see them on luxury condo developments or office towers. Weather also plays a big part, which is why Miami or Vancouver have relatively more glass than NYC or Toronto. But that being said, most purpose built rentals even in the most amenable climates have less glass than condos or office towers.

Considering that Baydo doesn't build top of the market buildings (larger glass panes are more expensive to buy and more difficult to install) and that this is a purpose built rental building aimed at students and other potential residents with less purchasing power (the monthly power bill will be much lower compared to if there was 50% more glass), I don't think anyone should be surprised at the built form.

This lot was a surface parking lot just a few years ago. The future residents will be a godsend for a number of nearby downtown businesses. This tower will inevitably house a lot of UofS students and city hospital staff who will now be walking or taking transit to school/work instead of driving in from a basement suite in Stonebridge. This construction project may be a joke, but the end result will be great for the city. And suburbanites laughing at Baydo's incompetence should be thanking their lucky stars that in a couple years yet another high density, mixed-use downtown development will be subsidizing their way of life for years to come.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Crisis

It's interesting to note that there has been plenty of criticism of the look of this development, primarily on the "tiny" windows, when compared to some of the mid-rise & high-rise residential towers that utilize a window wall system to provide a envelope that is largely glass.

The 2020 National Energy Code for Buildings (NECB) is set to be adopted by all provinces in 2024. Saskatchewan is supposed to adopt it January 1st, but I've heard rumblings that date may slip. One of the consequences of the adoption of this new code is that the amount of glass used in building envelopes will be reduced significantly. Extremely high performance glazing systems, which come with a matching extremely high cost, will be required in order to provide the "glass box" look that has been so highly desired over the past few decades. So, like it or not, the look of the Baydo Towers envelope is likely going to be typical of most new residential developments.

Baydo's windows are incredibly small and are a result of the cheapest option to meet the energy codes. Not only are they too small but, they lack any sort of architectural design references. Another thing you're fotgetting is that most commenters have seen the renderings and the expectation of the primary facade materials are equally cheap. The majority of SSP Canadian posters are sick and tied of window wall towers so your argument in absolutes of either glass box or Baydo has little merit. There's very little good in the exterior design aesthetics of Saskatoon's new tallest. Defending it just comes across as homerish.

It's stucco over sheet metal cladding. I personally favour the first one.

[Saskabusher]

Great comments, guys. And with the Sask Poly campus moving, while new housing is being built in the vicinity, reminds me of the Broadway Extra Foods folding just as two new high rise residential buildings open beside it. I bet the campus, if it went north-industrial like we just mentioned in the main thread, it could have negotiated with Baydo to make the south tower here a student friendly/dorm like arrangement for a win-win situation.
Just pissing in the wind.... Nothing's a given.

[Saskabusher]

Except you're gonna drive. You have to.

So the risk goes up immediately that someone is drunk.

We've got the worst stats in NA. In Saskatoon. I'm disgusted by this. But it's for another thread. Live close to your work and play, and have a far better life. I'm seriously considering moving downtown. A condo I stayed at is less than $300000 with two bedrooms. Great view. Quiet, friendly and convenient. And I work from home. Bingo! I love walking across the University Bridge over to the Broadway Bridge and back. Amazing views, food, people, pubs, shops, Everything. These new Baydo buildings will add to security and opportunities. I can't wait:>)

[Saskabusher]

Actually, the top of the post would be the 21st floor, and ceiling of the 20th....

[The Bess]

Hey Whipper Snapper anything happening with that 85 story condo tower on Yonge and Bloor streets, its already been 7 years since construction started. I heard it was up to the 40th floor should be done by 2030 lol. I have to admit it will look good if ever finished. As for Baydo I am sick of seeing stucco or brick buildings but not sure where you got what quality of building materials they are using, but if you know please share?

[Dalreg]

Whippy has an opinion just like everyone else. And you know what they say about opinions....

One correction Whippy, not the tallest in Saskatoon. Maybe top 5 at best.

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Can we just admit these are ugly buildings that reek of cost-cutting and get on with our lives? This doesn't mean that we can't appreciate the added population they bring to our downtown, or the fact that they will comprise relatively affordable housing for hundreds of people, or that there may be at least arguably good reasons for their ugliness and cheapness; and it doesn't mean that they are an unambiguously "bad project", or that the city would be better off without them. But, they are ugly and cheap, plain and simple.

[WhipperSnapper]

Honestly, I meant to say tallest twins. I forgot to type it.

Hard to say which has been rising slower between The One and Baydo. The One's overly engineered structure has to be considered and that will be the number one reason should The One die. Baydo's erection leaves one preplex. The building's engineering is straightforward.Unfortunately, Baydo will be completed and its ugliness will stand tall in the skyline

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Originally Posted by Dalreg

Whippy has an opinion just like everyone else. And you know what they say about opinions....

One correction Whippy, not the tallest in Saskatoon. Maybe top 5 at best.

I see you're using your Ralphie voice!!!