CHICAGO | St. Regis Chicago (Vista) | 1,191 FT | 101 FLOORS

[sentinel]

^No. Vinoly's a dick and also a hack, who doesn't even do any of his own preliminary designs. I used to work for him, I know. If he were in charge of designing this, he would have made three very slender tubes of unequal length, just like that new middle finger that's sticking out in midtown nyc. Totally uninspired crap - at least this is unique.

[munchymunch]

I was referring to the rumored building..... I really like this design.

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by munchymunch

I was referring to the rumored building..... I really like this design.

My bad, sorry - wait, rumored building??

[ChiTownWonder]

Anyone know if the windows will be tinted in the "fade in fade out" patterns or the renderings are just trying to mimic the effect of shadows and reflections?

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder

Anyone know if the windows will be tinted in the "fade in fade out" patterns or the renderings are just trying to mimic the effect of shadows and reflections?

Yes, the glass varies in efficiency based upon the intensity of solar heat gain relative to the position of the floor on each frustum.

[chris08876]

The geometry on this is impressive. I like.

[Ploppalopp]

I definitely like the revision. Its also awesome that it will be second tallest to the roof.

[SpireGuy]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Yes, the glass varies in efficiency based upon the intensity of solar heat gain relative to the position of the floor on each frustum.

What does this mean? The glass changes color according to internal heat or the glass is actually various shades?

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by SpireGuy

What does this mean? The glass changes color according to internal heat or the glass is actually various shades?

The reflectivity of the panels depending on positioning would change. Like with Aqua, some panes are more reflective than not.

Originally Posted by ChickeNES

That's kind of amusing, since they show Site O as a just a box even though there's been designs released already, and there's been no firm plans unveiled for the NE corner.

Rendering were "leaked/released" regarding Site O several months back. No, nothing about the NE corner is known. Just like the rest of this development, renderings have been released piecemeal depending upon what parcel was being developed at the time.

I will say though, that when the NE corner is developed, expect something something spectacular. I had a nice conversation with Joel Carlins last night and he said that it's always been the plan that they wanted to go out with a bang regarding the last site. They want to make a statement at that location. I told him that he should have a conversation with Related so that there's an agreement that both sides of the river at LSD, create a gateway into the city architecturally speaking; bold, tall and inspiring...

[bcp]

dig the semi-honeycomb on the shorter segments...and they listened it appears, that one blank wall from a previous developer is now covered!

[rlw777]

I sort of wish the half honeycomb pattern was continued in the glass facade. Those horizontal lines are nice but does anyone else feel like they take away from the verticality a bit?

[munchymunch]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...mn.html#page=1

I'm confused about the height....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-met...htmlstory.html

Developers: Joint venture between Wanda Group and Magellan Development Group.

Design architect: Studio Gang Architects

Project architect: bKL Architecture

Cost: Over $950 million

Opening planned: 2019

Stories: 93*

Square feet of space: More than 1.8 million

What is planned to be in it: A 169-room hotel, 405 condominiums, 410 parking spaces.

[123fakestreet]

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[Zapatan]

That might be from the original figure munchymunch, if it's 93 stories it could be 1200' and the renderings make it look 1200' as well.

We'll wait and see, either height is good obviously but 1200' to the solid roof would really make a nice impact even in Chi Town!

[chris08876]

Looks barely taller than the Aon Center or about close to the tip which is almost 1200 ft. Given the perspective if we look really close.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Looks barely taller than the Aon Center or about close to the tip which is almost 1200 ft. Given the perspective if we look really close.

True, but it is behind it in that picture.

Where did the 1200' figure come from anyway?

In any case I gotta say I'm impressed, they cut costs and even made the design better (and maybe taller)!

Good work guys

[Domer2019]

Going back to the form and perhaps homogeneity (as much as can exist) when viewed from far away, I do think this is a concern:


[Studio Gang]

It's dangerous territory when a form is watered down to obsolescence when viewed from far away. Others like the Sears and even Trump don't appear to suffer this as much. And others like Aon don't even have features to miss out on (but, crucially, that building never sold itself on aesthetic merit vs the debate we have here).

Of course, some buildings like Aqua are meant to stare up at and appreciate from near, not far, but I think it's a cop-out to rationalize that way with Wanda Vista. Disclaimer being that all we have are renders so far...

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by Domer2019

Going back to the form and perhaps homogeneity (as much as can exist) when viewed from far away, I do think this is a concern:


[Studio Gang]

It's dangerous territory when a form is watered down to obsolescence when viewed from far away. Others like the Sears and even Trump don't appear to suffer this as much. And others like Aon don't even have features to miss out on (but, crucially, that building never sold itself on aesthetic merit vs the debate we have here).

Of course, some buildings like Aqua are meant to stare up at and appreciate from near, not far, but I think it's a cop-out to rationalize that way with Wanda Vista. Disclaimer being that all we have are renders so far...

Sears and Trump have setbacks which help define shape. Hancock is obelisk like, which helps to define shape while the X-bracing defines texture. wanda has setbacks which will help define shape as well as frustums which will be unique and unlike what we have in our skyline. Can we please be patient and relax? Do you honestly think we're going to get a 1,150' piece of vertical shit designed by Gang? Come one people... Chill!

[Domer2019]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

Sears and Trump have setbacks which help define shape. Hancock is obelisk like, which helps to define shape while the X-bracing defines texture. wanda has setbacks which will help define shape as well as frustums which will be unique and unlike what we have in our skyline. Can we please be patient and relax? Do you honestly think we're going to get a 1,150' piece of vertical shit designed by Gang? Come one people... Chill!

I never said I wasn't chill - I don't think anyone here expects 3 slabs of steel and glass and a quick escape to China. But it never hurts to critique the strengths and weaknesses of a piece of art. Sure, the setbacks help differentiate the towers from each other, but they don't affect the shapes of the towers themselves. In my opinion, the frustums viewed from far away are not enough to greatly change the general form.

Look at it from a math perspective. When you integrate a curve (LRAM, RRAM), up close, it's all rough and right angle-y. But when you add sums or zoom out you get a curve by the human eye. What I'm saying is that the visual effect of the frustums gets weaker with distance and depending on the angle. For others like the Hancock, what is intended is what you get, over and over.

That said, I'm sure it will be breathtaking and I will enjoy marveling at it. Pointing out subjective issues with it doesn't take away from it is; I can't wait!

[UPChicago]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

Sears and Trump have setbacks which help define shape. Hancock is obelisk like, which helps to define shape while the X-bracing defines texture. wanda has setbacks which will help define shape as well as frustums which will be unique and unlike what we have in our skyline. Can we please be patient and relax? Do you honestly think we're going to get a 1,150' piece of vertical shit designed by Gang? Come one people... Chill!

Yes