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Old Posted Mar 12, 2009, 1:49 AM
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We could change the sign to read "Portland, Oregon"....but that would make us look a little bit stupid...the whole putting the city name in the skyline, so you know what city you are looking at...though, I guess one could say that about having it just say "Oregon" as well because it outlines the state of Oregon already.


I like the "Made in Oregon" because it has evolved and taken on a new meaning for the city and is sort of a slogan for all our local produced goods and our local mindedness. And again, when University of Oregon builds an actual campus, not just lease 3/4 a block, then I can see them making a big deal over what it says on the sign....is it so hard for the school to put their name on the building itself? Do they really need a sign to stroke their egos?
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2009, 4:02 AM
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City appeals to UO about sign change

Portland realizes that the university controls the fate of Made in Oregon sign
Daily Journal of Commerce
POSTED: 04:00 AM PDT Wednesday, March 11, 2009
BY SAM BENNETT

For Hannah Fisher, the debate over changing the Made in Oregon sign to say “University of Oregon” boils down to one issue: fairness.

“We all need to raise visibility, but it should not be done at the cost of overshadowing each other,” she said during testimony before the city’s Historic Landmarks Commission. “Making the sign into a University of Oregon sign will do just that.”

As student body president of Portland State University, Fisher said she represented PSU’s 27,000 students and said there should be a “spirit of Oregon universities working together in a time of budget crisis.”

But as a tenant in the White Stag Block in Old Town, the University of Oregon has the option to change the sign, and UO officials at Monday’s Historic Landmarks Commission meeting made it clear that’s what they want.

The sign is owned by Ramsay Signs. Its president, Darryl Paulsen, said UO’s lease agreement with White Stag Block property owner Venerable Properties gives the university the option to have the sign changed or leave it alone.

Because UO officials are adamant about making the change, city officials hope to appeal to UO’s sense of fairness and convince the university not to proceed with the sign change.

This may be the city’s only option to keep the Made in Oregon sign as is.

City Commissioner Randy Leonard and Mayor Sam Adams back the idea of the city buying the sign from Ramsay Signs in order to leave it unchanged.

Leonard called UO’s sign change proposal “incendiary,” and said the university is “moving into Portland and using (Portland’s) most prominent sign to promote itself.”

“How would people in Eugene feel if Portland State put a ‘PSU Vikings’ large neon sign on top of Skinner Butte?” he said, referring to the butte overlooking the UO campus in Eugene.

Commission members delayed a decision about the sign change until April 6, but members said they couldn’t deny UO the change even if they wanted to. Members said the best way to assure the sign continues to say “Made in Oregon” would be for it to come into public ownership. Otherwise, they said, UO is protected under the First Amendment to change the sign.

“We have something here that is truly iconic,” said commission member Richard Engeman. “It’s more than just a brand,” he said, referring to Made In Oregon, the store chain that in 1997 had the sign changed to its name. “It has to do with who we are as a state and a city.”

Several opponents of the sign change said Monday that the Made in Oregon sign is the closest thing Portland has to a Space Needle or Gateway Arch.

Local resident Angela Wykoff said the fact that the sign has changed from White Satin Sugar to White Stag and then to Made in Oregon over its nearly 70-year life is not enough reason to change it to University of Oregon. While Made In Oregon is a store brand, many residents and visitors see the sign as a symbol of what makes Oregon great.

“When Oregonians see the sign, they think of the Rose Festival and Crater Lake and many graphic images,” Wykoff said. “Changing the sign for exploitation of a single entity would degrade the symbolic value of the sign. UO represents a small part of the mental image that the sign conjures.”

But commission members said they can’t control the message of the sign. They have asked UO to work with Ramsay Signs to slightly alter the lettering so it has a more historic flare.

“We are a country of laws,” said Paulson, referring to UO’s right to change the lettering. “The laws protect everyone, even if you don’t like the message.”
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2009, 6:04 AM
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“How would people in Eugene feel if Portland State put a ‘PSU Vikings’ large neon sign on top of Skinner Butte?” he said, referring to the butte overlooking the UO campus in Eugene.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I love it. Randy Leonard knows how to put the smackdown.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2009, 8:07 AM
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I am astonished simply from a PR stance that the UO is even contemplating "duking" this one out. Why is Paulson even allowed to speak on this...sit down & shut up. All he wants is $$$. It could say "Paulson is light in the loafers" so long as he gets the commission.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2009, 7:18 PM
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I would love to see architecture like this showing up in Old Town.

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POSTED: 04:00 AM PDT Monday, March 30, 2009
BY NATHALIE WEINSTEIN

The Resource Access Center, a 106,000-square-foot building intended to serve the city’s homeless population, will soon be built in the northern part of Old Town.

Designed by Holst Architecture, the $45.9 million project will be located on the Portland Development Commission’s Block U site, which is bounded by Hoyt and Irving streets to the south and north, respectively, and Sixth Avenue and Broadway to the east and west respectively. The Resource Access Center is part of Portland’s Ten Year Plan to End Homelessness, which was adopted by City Council in December 2005. The eight-story facility will provide a 90-bed men’s shelter, five floors of permanent housing with 130 studio apartments, as well as transitional aids such as computer stations, lockers and showers, laundry facilities, a barbershop, telephones and mail facilities. In addition, the center will contain a pet area, a community library, a vegetable garden, support areas for physical and mental health services, and an art room. Also planned are case management and administrative offices, and community meeting spaces.

The building, which is targeting Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design gold certification, will employ gray water harvesting, heat recovery, solar hot water, a vegetated roof with storm water planters, and a high-efficiency brick skin with three inches of exterior insulation and low-e fiberglass windows.

The design team is led by Holst Architecture and includes Walsh Construction, PAE Consulting Engineers, ABHT Structural Engineers, KPFF Civil Engineers, Mayer/Reed Landscape Architecture & Visual Communications, Czopek & Erdenberger Interior Design, Green Building Services, and Architectural Cost Consultants.
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2009, 12:49 AM
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I wonder if there are any renderings for this yet? It sounds like a great project.
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^^^Yes -- look on the Holst website under Mixed-Use Housing. It's right at the top. Let the debate begin!
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I would love to see architecture like this showing up in Old Town.
I very much agree. In fact, I'd like that building better without the top-floor setback. But, it is to scale with its surroundings and also contemporary. I doubt our Historic Landmarks Commission would approve. Maybe with some cast iron relics stuck on to the front...
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I like it.
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I like it too.
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WOW. Awesome.
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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140487

here is the original thread. Possibly the mods could merge the two where they overlap, and change the title?
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8 stories, doesn't appear like its going to be 350 feet anymore.
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8 stories, doesn't appear like its going to be 350 feet anymore.

And if this is the same center it also moved about 5 blocks. So we still have that huge surface lot between 3rd and 4th and Flanders. But the block they are building on needed filled too...
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yeah, wasn't the original one supposed to be on glisan and... 4th i think?
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I guess as a contrast to the actual quality building its going to block in the train station it works. But seriously this is nothing more then value engineering. Its a box. How bold.
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