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Old Posted Jan 1, 2018, 4:53 PM
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European design, all right. Looks great, but doesn't work at all for its intended purpose.



Uhhh, no. It is in a strange kind of decline in some ways. With all of the money HRM is pouring into useless projects and spending, we have very little to actually show for it. No stadium, no effective transit system, poor street infrastructure.
Our transit system is mediocre but still vastly better than any comparably sized metro area in Canada (and ranks pretty high among sub-1 million metros in North America). Our public-realm infrastructure has lagged but is not in decline, and is definitely improving. As for a stadium, god, I can't even begin to care.

By an objective measure, Halifax is a good and clearly improving city, and for a city of this size, it's fantastic. (Some) Haligonians' weird insistence to the contrary is such a baffling local quirk.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2018, 11:41 PM
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By an objective measure, Halifax is a good and clearly improving city, and for a city of this size, it's fantastic. (Some) Haligonians' weird insistence to the contrary is such a baffling local quirk.
I only get back every year or two. I'd describe the changes 10 years ago as slow and steady. These days it seems like the downtown area at least improves by leaps and bounds with each visit, because there's something new like the library or Argyle Street plus some new development on practically every block it seems.

The other good thing in Halifax so far is that the growing pains are almost nonexistent compared to Vancouver or Toronto. Maybe this will change if Halifax keeps growing by 2% a year. But the cost to buy or rent in Halifax hasn't gone up much. There's also a lot more new broadly appealing middle class stuff opening up, whereas the bigger North American cities mostly seem to be overshooting that sweet spot now.

Unless something suddenly changes I think Halifax is going to be something like Austin TX in the long run, a smaller city that has a lot of appeal as a place where you can have a good standard of living even if you're not unusually wealthy. Standing in the way of this is perhaps high tax rates and a weirdly inaccurately modest or negative reputation, something that's probably not helped by the attitude of locals, although that seems to be changing in a positive way.

Another challenge is that the municipality and provinces will need to get into more of a growth mindset if the 2% a year increases continue. They will need to build more ambitious infrastructure projects. Another 5 years of indecisiveness will mean 40,000 more people on the roads, which will have a real impact.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2018, 5:16 PM
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I have to admit that I'm liking the Nova Centre project more now that the finishing touches are starting to be applied. The lighting is a nice touch, and will definitely improve the vibe of the pedestrian-oriented streets. Hopefully more and more surrounding buildings will join in and brighten up the area with similar lighting.

I'm really looking forward to the summer when we will see how it will all work out with new businesses (hopefully with one or two restaurants/bars) in the Nova Centre, the Argyle Street project completely finished and all the patios, which will now be permanent, in full swing. I think it will be a really happening and vibrant area, especially with the limitation on vehicle traffic.

I honestly don't see any real loss on those streets anyhow. I would always try to avoid driving on them if possible as they were always crowded and busy with parked cars and pedestrians (often under the influence in the evenings) making it difficult to get through with a car. For parking spots, on the evenings and weekends people would just park their cars and leave them there, so it's not like one would even hope to have a parking spot available, plus with all the drunk kids and other activities going on, you are likely to sustain some sort of damage to your vehicle if you do find a spot. I only recall parking there once, on Blowers Street, and when I returned to my car later on I found that somebody had run into it and left the scene... that was enough for me, now I seek out parkades as they seem to be a little easier on the vehicle...

I still haven't changed on my nit-picky complaints about the Nova Centre and Rogers Square, but if the net positives outweigh the net negatives (which I believe they do), then I'm all for it. Overall a huge improvement to the downtown, IMHO.
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Old Posted Jan 3, 2018, 3:12 AM
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Two things, the hotel operator - is it still to be announced this month and as for bars - Bier Markt was originally mentioned opening in the centre, but now isn't, any rumours as to what is going in there?
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2018, 1:19 PM
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2018, 2:36 PM
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Looks like the street becomes inaccessible if an emergency response vehicle has to stop on it. Ridiculously bad design.
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2018, 3:34 PM
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Looks like the street becomes inaccessible if an emergency response vehicle has to stop on it. Ridiculously bad design.
How so?
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Looks like the street becomes inaccessible if an emergency response vehicle has to stop on it. Ridiculously bad design.
Ignoring the fact that there's a clear car width to the side of that ambulance, do we really want to encourage people driving down the road during an emergency situation? There are tons of alternate routes around that street.
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Two things, the hotel operator - is it still to be announced this month and as for bars - Bier Markt was originally mentioned opening in the centre, but now isn't, any rumours as to what is going in there?
Ramia has promised an imminent announcement by a hotel operator for at least two years. I have no confidence one will announce anytime soon. An official at the convention centre open house on the weekend said he expects a hotel opening is almost a year away. This makes sense since all interior work awaits an operator.

I was also bemused to learn there is no indoor access from the hotel building to the convention centre. Guests, I was told, will have to cross the semi-covered Grafton Street.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:58 AM
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I find it amazing for such a huge development, all the planning that DIDN"T go into this ... no connection to the existing tunnel system, and as mentioned above, no direct connection from the proposed hotel to the convention centre... did the design team break off into teams and not get back together?
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 1:43 PM
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I find it amazing for such a huge development, all the planning that DIDN"T go into this ... no connection to the existing tunnel system, and as mentioned above, no direct connection from the proposed hotel to the convention centre... did the design team break off into teams and not get back together?
My memory is foggy on this one, so perhaps someone can correct the details, but I seem to recall the connection to the tunnel system was something that was discussed. The cost was going to be something astronomical ($20 million comes to mind) and the developer wanted the city pay. City basically said, "lol no."
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 2:11 PM
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My memory is foggy on this one, so perhaps someone can correct the details, but I seem to recall the connection to the tunnel system was something that was discussed. The cost was going to be something astronomical ($20 million comes to mind) and the developer wanted the city pay. City basically said, "lol no."
I believe the municipal planners actually would not let the developer connect to the tunnel system, and the Grafton Streetscape upgrade was the compromise. The current planners hate the pedway system, and would rather we all put on our coats and walk on the surface streets.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 2:36 PM
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I believe the municipal planners actually would not let the developer connect to the tunnel system, and the Grafton Streetscape upgrade was the compromise. The current planners hate the pedway system, and would rather we all put on our coats and walk on the surface streets.
Yes, that makes perfect sense.

First thing we do, let's fire all the planners.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 2:37 PM
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I was also bemused to learn there is no indoor access from the hotel building to the convention centre. Guests, I was told, will have to cross the semi-covered Grafton Street.
I find this difficult to believe. The buildings are physically connected, so how hard can this be to implement?
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 3:04 PM
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Here's an article for the tunnel from 2015.

Looks like the cost was more like $7-$10 million. The city was wary of the cost, plus the disruption that would come from its installation.

I do find the lack of connection between the hotel and convention centre to pretty pretty baffling, if that is indeed true.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 5:03 PM
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Yes, that makes perfect sense.

First thing we do, let's fire all the planners.
After we kill all the lawyers.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 7:02 PM
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I do find the lack of connection between the hotel and convention centre to pretty pretty baffling, if that is indeed true.
I find it equally confounding but repeat only what I was told; however, if you check out the convention centre floor plans, available on their website, there is no hotel access visible there.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2018, 11:19 PM
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I find it equally confounding but repeat only what I was told; however, if you check out the convention centre floor plans, available on their website, there is no hotel access visible there.
Must not have had their best architects on that one...
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2018, 2:25 PM
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Has the Nova Centre underground public parking garage opened yet? And does anyone know where the entrance is located.

I thought it's suppose to have close to 500 parking spaces with multiple levels underneath.

It seems ideal for Mooseheads games and other events at the Scotiabank Centre.




Is this the entrance/exit for parking?
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2018, 4:22 PM
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Has the Nova Centre underground public parking garage opened yet? And does anyone know where the entrance is located.

I thought it's suppose to have close to 500 parking spaces with multiple levels underneath.

It seems ideal for Mooseheads games and other events at the Scotiabank Centre.




Is this the entrance/exit for parking?
No these are the loading bays for the convention center... There are ways to get from the hotel to the convention center just not "public" ones.
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