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BVictor1 · #**541** Posted **Jan 5, 2015, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by wmarczyk333

The river walk, of course, that is easy. Can somebody tell me what are they planning to do with the empty north/ east lot just by lake shore dirve? After Wanda Visat this is going to be the only empty lot left in LSE.

It'll be developed just like all the other lots have been developed. That space is large enough for several buildings. You'll just have to be patient for the next few years and wait and see what's proposed.

munchymunch · #**542** Posted **Feb 23, 2015, 9:29 PM**

Someone on ssc made a sketch up of this project. Feel free to download this on google earth, and see it at different angles.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/mod...c-a376d2480ce1

wierdaaron · #**543** Posted **Feb 23, 2015, 10:16 PM**

Cool, I might 3D print this.

pilsenarch · #**544** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 5:05 PM**

I hear that there might be some serious budget issues with this design (shock)...

HomrQT · #**545** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 5:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by munchymunch

Someone on ssc made a sketch up of this project. Feel free to download this on google earth, and see it at different angles.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/mod...c-a376d2480ce1

New AT&T bars advertisement?

SamInTheLoop · #**546** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

I hear that there might be some serious budget issues with this design (shock)...

Translation is that Jim Loewenberg is having some issues of course. I hope the Chinese gang (see what I did there?) can talk him down from any severe VE......

Hey, any word on "O", btw? Still up for a spring groundbreaking? I'd heard there was yet more shifting around of the hotel flags...........

Zapatan · #**547** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

I hear that there might be some serious budget issues with this design (shock)...

Chicago seems to fail to build half the cool projects that are proposed. It would be really sad if this didn't go through or got shortened/made into a box.

Fingers crossed that doesn't happen.

pilsenarch · #**548** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

Translation is that Jim Loewenberg is having some issues of course. I hope the Chinese gang (see what I did there?) can talk him down from any severe VE......

Hey, any word on "O", btw? Still up for a spring groundbreaking? I'd heard there was yet more shifting around of the hotel flags...........

Well, it's not even anywhere near VE yet.... what I heard was it had a specific budget (somewhat generous, I think) and the current design came in somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% (!) over with structure being the biggest overage...

as far as "O", you are correct, sir... all I know is they are still trying to nail down the flags...

ChiTownWonder · #**549** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 9:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

what I heard was it had a specific budget (somewhat generous, I think) and the current design came in somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% (!) over with structure being the biggest overage...

90% over 900 million dollers?!

UPChicago · #**550** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 9:30 PM**

Quick, someone send them the Waldorf Astoria plans I'm sure that will fit their budget!

pilsenarch · #**551** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder

90% over 900 million dollers?!

yes.

Steely Dan · #**552** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 11:05 PM**

whoops!

saaaa-wing and a miss.

that's a pretty giant numbers fuck-up, if true.

almost calatrava-esque.

almost.

the urban politician · #**553** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 11:11 PM**

News like this is why I often don't believe the "great design doesn't have to be expensive" crowd

pilsenarch · #**554** Posted **Feb 24, 2015, 11:40 PM**

the 'great design' is highly debateable...

Zapatan · #**555** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 12:44 AM**

I loved the design, although at 1150' it would have created a plateau (albeit a high one) in the city, since there are similar sized towers in the area.

Well... hope the ~700 foot box they replace this beauty with is better than what replaced water view tower

untitledreality · #**556** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 12:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

whoops!

saaaa-wing and a miss.

that's a pretty giant numbers fuck-up, if true.

almost calatrava-esque.

almost.

My office has had bids/projections come back at similar levels, often from contractors who do not have a wealth of experience working on complicated facade systems, or because of a few rather pricey specifications that slipped through the cracks.

If this was round one of cost projections I wouldn't be overly concerned.

ChiTownWonder · #**557** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 2:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

yes.

shit that is alot... well at least they are starting off high? i hope they are still looking to develop something along the lines of what is already proposed.

Zapatan · #**558** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by UPChicago

Quick, someone send them the Waldorf Astoria plans I'm sure that will fit their budget!

For real. That really would be too good to be true.

Since they're having budget issues (how someone goes 90% over budget is just beyond me) I would just assume that something way shorter and simpler will rise here. I could be wrong but sadly I doubt it'll end up as impressive as what we see in the renders.

I actually think curvy walls instead of zig zag ones would look really good but that probably wouldn't be cheaper.

scalziand · #**559** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 3:55 AM**

Shoot, that's infrastructure project cost overage territory.

HomrQT · #**560** Posted **Feb 25, 2015, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by untitledreality

My office has had bids/projections come back at similar levels, often from contractors who do not have a wealth of experience working on complicated facade systems, or because of a few rather pricey specifications that slipped through the cracks.

If this was round one of cost projections I wouldn't be overly concerned.

In your experience when those initial high cost projections come in, how much of the original design/intentions tend to change to compensate for the overages?