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Old Posted Aug 20, 2015, 11:46 AM
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"Taxpayer funding for victims of communism memorial soars above $4.2M"
-- money that would be better spent on community housing.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2015, 11:50 PM
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Hungary makes six-figure donation to victims of communism memorial

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 17, 2015 | Last Updated: September 17, 2015 6:17 PM EDT


As controversy raged in Canada this summer over the proposed Memorial to the Victims of Communism in Ottawa, the charitable group sponsoring the monument received what may be its largest single donation from the government of Hungary.

The group, Tribute to Liberty, made no public announcement about the August donation of 25 million forints – about $121,000 Cdn at current exchange rates – though it was reported in the press in Hungary.

One report, on the English-language website dailynewshungary.com, showed Tribute to Liberty chair Ludwik Klimkowski in Budapest, posing with Zoltan Balog, Hungary’s human resources minister, behind an oversized cheque.

Tribute to Liberty no longer comments on its fundraising activities. But its website lists the government of Hungary as one of nine “legacy leaders” who have donated at least $100,000 to the memorial project.

However, five of those, including the Hungarian donation, are listed as pledges, suggesting that they haven’t yet signed over the money.

In the dailynewshungary.com report, Balog is quoted as saying that his government wanted to recognize Canada’s generous act of granting safe haven to 43,000 Hungarian refugees after the 1956 revolution against communist rule.

Balog also noted that, in 2010, Canada designated its acceptance of the Hungarian refugees as a national historic event, which he said further testified to the significance of the two countries’ relations.

(Ironically, Hungary is currently embroiled in its own refugee crisis, fencing off its frontier and using tear gas and water cannons to repel migrants from Syria and elsewhere.)

The major donation by Hungary is just the latest that Tribute to Liberty has received from former communist nations in Eastern Europe.

Earlier this year, the Czech Republic quietly donated 400,000 Czech crowns — a little more than $20,000 — and Latvia donated 10,000 euros, roughly $14,000.

Donations from foreign governments to registered charities in Canada appear to be legal. In their annual filings to the Canada Revenue Agency, charities must report total amounts received from all sources outside Canada, both government and non-government.

Despite the presence of eight million people in Canada with links to former or current communist regimes around the world, Tribute to Liberty has struggled to raise its $1.26-million share of the memorial’s $5.5-million cost.

The charity’s filing with the CRA for the fiscal year ending July 31, 2015 has not yet been posted on the CRA’s website, so no current tally of its fundraising is available. Its filing for the year ending July 31, 2014, showed it had assets of just $573,285 after expenses.

Documents released to the Citizen under access to information in August showed the federal government will pay $4.2 million of the cost — far more than the $3 million it had previously disclosed.

The proposed memorial has been highly controversial, mostly because of its location on Wellington Street near the Supreme Court of Canada.

Many also objected to its massive scale, but that has been dramatically reduced, at least partly because of budget constraints.

Both the federal Liberals and the New Democrats have called for the memorial to be moved to another site, meaning the outcome of the current federal election will likely determine its fate.

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Old Posted Sep 18, 2015, 12:50 AM
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We wouldn't allow a windmill to be errected at Dow's lake - but we will allow this?

Something rotten in the state of Denmark.
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We wouldn't allow a windmill to be errected at Dow's lake - but we will allow this?
"We" allow nothing. Dear Leader wants, Dear Leader gets.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2015, 1:36 PM
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I was REALLY hoping this proposal was dead in the water...

All I can say is that after 3-4 yrs of fundraising by Tribute to Liberty, and still falling short on their portion, then perhaps that should indicate that there is no demand/desire for this damn monument!
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PM's mailbox brims with angry missives about anti-communism memorial

JIM BRONSKILL, The Canadian Press
First posted: Thursday, October 01, 2015 12:09 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, October 01, 2015 06:51 PM EDT


Stephen Harper's mailbox is filling up with messages from Canadians upset about the concept, size, location and cost of a national memorial for victims of communism, newly released correspondence shows.

The prime minister has received dozens of handwritten letters, typewritten notes and emails from people -- including Conservative supporters -- who question the idea of a such a monument, especially just a stone's throw from the Supreme Court of Canada.

A few people backed the project, though two of them argued it should be built elsewhere.

"With all the calamities happening around the world, such a memorial is hypocritical and short-sighted," wrote one opponent. "A memorial ought to encompass all victims of human tragedies and incite global leaders to respect their nations and countrymen. Otherwise, don't bother."

Some correspondents were more blunt.

"What an absurd project," wrote one.

"This is outrageous! Stop this waste of my money now," said another.

The Canadian Press obtained the letters and emails to the prime minister through an Access to Information request that covered correspondence from Jan. 1, 2014, through late June of this year. Some missives are still being processed for release.

The names of almost all of the individuals and groups who wrote to Harper were withheld to protect their privacy. Other records were excluded from disclosure because they constituted briefings to cabinet.

The Conservative government has promoted the planned memorial as a means of recognizing the many millions who died or suffered under communist regimes. The government is managing the project on behalf of Tribute to Liberty, a charity established in 2008.

The concept by Toronto-based ABSTRAKT Studio Architecture features a series of angular peaks, or "memory folds," with more than 100 million pixel-like "memory squares" -- each representing a person -- covering the exterior face of the folds. It also includes a Bridge of Hope and elevated viewing platform.

The $5.5-million project -- to be built with federal and private funds -- has drawn objections over its imposing design and planned location on a grassy square in the parliamentary precinct long set aside for a new Federal Court building.

The monument, originally intended to be the height of three city buses, was scaled back considerably in June, partly in response to a federal advisory panel's concerns. A final design is expected later this year.

"It would be more appropriate to build a monument to the victims of your heartless, ideological government," one concerned person wrote the day the latest design was unveiled.

But even supporters were irked. "I suggest that this entire initiative be reconsidered. Should it go ahead, I will have to reconsider my donation level," an email warned.

The original size of the planned memorial and its proximity to the National War Memorial -- a few blocks away -- is "insulting to the sacrifices and memory" of family members who served in the two World Wars, wrote another.

Said a "disgusted" correspondent last March: "This monstrosity of a memorial is to be placed on prime land that it was never meant to be on."

Several people suggested it would be more appropriate to commemorate the suffering of aboriginal peoples -- or improve the standard of living in Canada's indigenous communities.

One email message recommended "using whatever money is available, some millions I assume, to ensure that all our First Nations communities have properly functioning water and sewer systems, or housing with proper heating and insulation."

A number felt there was insufficient public input on the memorial.

Wrote one: "The decision, taken without consulting Canadians in a truly democratic way, and against the wishes of many, is most regrettable."

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Old Posted Oct 5, 2015, 1:06 PM
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This has to be Ottawa's most unwanted monument despite being reduced in scale due to siting, awful design and large amounts of concrete. Its a true carbunkle.
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Hard to believe - but I think the statue of Arthur Meighan wins most unwanted.
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Hard to believe - but I think the statue of Arthur Meighan wins most unwanted.
And lets not forget about the Holocaust one too. Seems like that one has been put on hold too.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2015, 3:49 PM
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And lets not forget about the Holocaust one too. Seems like that one has been put on hold too.
To be fair, the Holocaust monument is especially gaudy and heavy handed so it makes sense that people would be opposing it too. Everybody thinks the Holocaust is worth commemorating but I'd imagine lots of people are also thinking: "does it have to be commemorated with such an awful monument on this fantastic piece of land right down the street from Parliament?"
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Both the Communism and Holocaust monuments are classic "White Elephants"

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A white elephant is a possession which its owner cannot dispose of and whose cost, particularly that of maintenance, is out of proportion to its usefulness.
Unlike other monuments in the city, these are going to be really high maintenance and have costly security issues.
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Hence why I think they should BOTH be scrapped, or at least downgraded in size and moved to less prominent locations. Lets see if a new government (unless Harper wins again) will be willing to do that.
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Hence why I think they should BOTH be scrapped, or at least downgraded in size and moved to less prominent locations. Lets see if a new government (unless Harper wins again) will be willing to do that.
Moving the communist monument and scaling it down, sure no problem. But trying to do the same to the Holocaust will likely be seen as anti-semetic.
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Seen, probably not by many. Portrayed, yes, quite possibly.
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Moving the communist monument and scaling it down, sure no problem. But trying to do the same to the Holocaust will likely be seen as anti-semetic.
Only by the Conservatives would it be portrayed as anti-Semitic.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2015, 2:39 AM
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Election outcome could decide fate of victims of communism memorial, Kristmanson says

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: October 16, 2015 | Last Updated: October 16, 2015 7:45 PM EDT


The head of the National Capital Commission told a Washington audience earlier this month that Monday’s federal election will likely decide the fate of the Memorial to the Victims of Communism.

Mark Kristmanson was the featured speaker at an event on Oct. 6 hosted by the National Capital Planning Commission, the NCC’s Washington equivalent, when he was asked about the status of the controversial Ottawa memorial.

“I’ll be honest with you,” he replied in a video of the event posted online Friday. “It’s probably an election issue, and the future of the monument may hinge to some extent on the outcome of the election.

“We’re doing our part as a planning commission to respect all the rules in terms of design review,” he said.

Both the Liberals and the New Democrats oppose construction of the memorial on its current site on Wellington Street near the Supreme Court of Canada, so if the Conservatives lose the election, the monument seems likely to be either moved or shelved entirely.

In addressing the question about the memorial, Kristmanson spoke more candidly about it than he ever has in public in Ottawa.

He said the original scale of the monument “was a real concern to our design advisory panel and to our board.” That has since been reduced by about half as the result of a “rigorous” design review process, he said.

Another concern the NCC had, Kristmanson said, was “the extensive use of concrete in a rather brutal way. It projected an incongruous element with the noble materials surrounding it in the Supreme Court and the National Archives.”

NCC staff worked with the memorial’s proponent, Tribute to Liberty, “to introduce noble materials to soften that harshness, which was intended in the design, but it also has to work in the precinct that it’s in.

“The monument, as it sits now in the design review process, is a much nobler monument than has been shown in the media.”

One thing Kristmanson didn’t address was the memorial’s location, which has caused the most controversy. Neither he nor Steve Willis, the NCC’s planning director, were in their current jobs when the NCC signed off on the location in November 2013, he said.

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So.... bets on how fast this piece of crap gets cancelled?
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So.... bets on how fast this piece of crap gets cancelled?
Cancelled, or just moved?
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Cancelled, or just moved?
I hope cancelled but based on the previous responses by the Liberals, it may be moved. Now that they have a majority, I hope they just cancel it, quietly if they don't want any hooplah around it.
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Let's just never talk about it again and maybe it'll go away!
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