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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 6:51 PM
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Wow, if CMB wins you can expect a stunning decline in the city and a pretty big exodus. She's basically drawn this entire thing around race. It would make anyone who's not black quite confused as to where they fall in CMB's Chicago.
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If this means Mayor Braun, then I am praying for Chicago's future..
Why. Is she too liberal?
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 6:58 PM
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Appellate Court ruling here
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 7:02 PM
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Why. Is she too liberal?
Dangerously inept has something to do with it.
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I was too young (well not that young, but I wouldn't be paying attention to politics), but what has or hasn't she done during her time as Senator?
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 7:21 PM
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So, under the Municipal Code, residency requires actual physical habitation and is a separate factual inquiry from electoral eligibility?
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 7:26 PM
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Why. Is she too liberal?
no, just an idiotic racist from the bad old days of chicago politics.
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I don't see CMB picking up a lot of the Rahm vote. Chico will take the bulk of it and DelValle will get a decent chunk of it as well. Her history with finances is horrendous. She still owes hundreds of thousands of dollars from her final Senate campaign, she was accused of multiple corruption charges during her time in the Senate (most notably she took money from Nigeria and defended their human rights abuses), most recently her tax filings were a disaster. She has a business she's running into the ground and only reported $15,000 in pension income for last year. She's the last person you want running a city during tough financial times.

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So, under the Municipal Code, residency requires actual physical habitation and is a separate factual inquiry from electoral eligibility?
That's the question the courts are trying to answer. It is unclear for a number of reasons. Municipal code says you have to physical reside at an address for a year to become an eligible candidate. If you give up your voter registration you lose that eligibility. Rahm got the initial eligibility and did not give it up when he went to Washington - he has remained registered to vote in Chicago, registered his car to his Chicago address, paid taxes in Illinois, etc. That situation isn't addressed by Municipal Code at all. There are also exemptions for people serving the US government (primarily meant for service members) that can be seen as applying to him.

I suspect the State Supreme Court will side with him, in general they don't like to override local officials on local issues unless the state has a direct interest in the matter.
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wow...Lampkin absolutely torched her peers in the dissent
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 8:18 PM
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wow...Lampkin absolutely torched her peers in the dissent
LOL Lampkin is right on target here IMHO. The majority's opinion is convoluted.
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I'm not particularly pleased. While I would be okay with Chico becoming mayor, I think Rahm is the only candidate that can butt heads with all of the aldermen & alderwomen and still get things done. While I wasn't always pleased with some of Daley's "accomplishments," I appreciated it didn't take decades for things to happen. He could get enough of the aldermen & alderwomen in line to actually produce results (though again, I recognize the results weren't always ideal). What would probably take a city like San Francisco 20 years to complete, Chicago would complete in 5 years. All of the other candidates seem too weak to me... a hot-headed Mayor Emanual hopefully counters some of the jackass aldermen & alderwomen. Otherwise I fear the city will be bogged down in "Ward wars" in the coming years.

A few snippets from the seemingly strongly-worded dissenting opinion:

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Well-established
precedent shows that courts have construed the “has resided in”
phrase used in section 3.1-10-5(a) of the Municipal Code
consistently with the “has resided in” phrase used in section 3-1
of the Election Code. See Smith, 44 Ill. 16; Delk, 112 Ill. App.
3d at 738; Walsh, 267 Ill. App. 3d at 976; Baumgartner, 355 Ill.
App. 3d at 847-48. Nevertheless, the majority, completely
unsupported by citation to any case law, arrives at different
meanings for the terms “residence” and “has resided in” as used in
section 3.1-10-5(a) of the Municipal Code and sections 3-1 and 3-
2(a) of the Election Code.
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Furthermore, the candidate never voted in Washington, D.C.,
never changed his driver’s license to Washington, D.C., never
registered his car in Washington, D.C., never purchased property in
Washington, D.C., never conducted personal banking in Washington,
D.C., and never demonstrated an intent to sell his Chicago home.
The challengers failed to counter the candidate’s evidence,
and the Board found that the weight of this evidence established
that the candidate intended to maintain his residence in Chicago
throughout the time of his temporary employment in Washington, D.C.
Since the majority could not meddle with the Board’s fact
findings or its ruling based on the proper application of the
manifest weight and clearly erroneous standards, the majority
attacks the Board’s ruling from another angle. Specifically, the
majority promulgates a new and undefined standard for determining
candidate residency requirements despite the plethora of clear,
relevant and well-established precedent that has been used by our
circuit courts and election boards for decades.
I hope the Supreme Court overrules the Appellate Court ruling.
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If this stands, it will be ironic: An insider such as Rahm tripped up by a rule made and still backed by insiders to keep outsiders off the ballot.
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Does the supreme court have enough time to rule on this before the election? Since as of now Emanuel is off the ballot. Unless the supreme court overrules this.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 9:23 PM
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Wow, if CMB wins you can expect a stunning decline in the city and a pretty big exodus. She's basically drawn this entire thing around race. It would make anyone who's not black quite confused as to where they fall in CMB's Chicago.
Explain. I know nothing about this woman but have heard nothing but bad things.
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Does the supreme court have enough time to rule on this before the election? Since as of now Emanuel is off the ballot. Unless the supreme court overrules this.
He could be given an injunction that would keep him on the ballot while the SC sorts this out or become a write in candidate if the SC decides he is eligible.

God help the appellate court and the IL supreme court if the disqualification stands and CMB ends up as mayor because the voters sure won't after she scuttles the city.
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Explain. I know nothing about this woman but have heard nothing but bad things.
Corrupt, incompetent, plays race card incessantly, and a poor business person.

Just what the city needs right now...
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Corrupt, incompetent, plays race card incessantly, and a poor business person.

Just what the city needs right now...
Carol Mosley Braun as mayor is unthinkable. She is extremely, extremely unintelligent and crooked as fuck to boot. Just a piece of garbage, worthless Chicago politician at it's most base level. The absolute worst person I could imagine taking over after Daley, I would have ANYONE over her.
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Boy I hope RM wins this one for the sake of our entire region. Otherwise than go MR Chico.
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there's no reason to freak out about a potential mayor CMB, she can't win city wide. if emanuel is thrown off the ballot for good, chico will get the lion's share of emanuel voters.
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