YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Pinion

Just wish I could understand what was being said without googling every acronym. A crude way of expressing it I admit.

This belongs here:
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[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Pinion

Just wish I could understand what was being said without googling every acronym. A crude way of expressing it I admit.

Don't be a DIK.

[Johnny Aussie]

Further hint about Xiamen Airlines launching 787s to international destinations.

YVR is specifically mentioned along with New York, Paris, Amsterdam and Sydney. Article is dated April 2013 but this is the first time I have actually seen this article and seeing YVR specifically mentioned.

http://m.atwonline.com/airframes/xiamen-airlines-introduce-first-boeing-787-july-2014

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Further hint about Xiamen Airlines launching 787s to international destinations.

YVR is specifically mentioned along with New York, Paris, Amsterdam and Sydney. Article is dated April 2013 but this is the first time I have actually seen this article and seeing YVR specifically mentioned.

http://m.atwonline.com/airframes/xiamen-airlines-introduce-first-boeing-787-july-2014

Giving further clout to YVR as the primary North America - Asia gateway, and, hopefully, strengthening YVR's concept of becoming that Asia-South America link that airport officials are vying for.

[connect2source]

Record year for passenger numbers in 2013 just 28K shy of 18 million!

December 2013 was particularly strong, domestic way up!

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketi...d_Deplaned_Passengers_Dec_2013.sflb.ashx

[phesto]

Originally Posted by connect2source

Record year for passenger numbers in 2013 just 28K shy of 18 million!

December 2013 was particularly strong, domestic way up!

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketi...d_Deplaned_Passengers_Dec_2013.sflb.ashx

Thanks. For some reason I thought 2013 would show better than 2% overall growth. Glad to see we're finally back above 2008 numbers though.

If 2.1% growth were sustained, we'd be at 24 Million by 2027. (just 10 Million shy of YVR's 2005 Master Plan estimate)

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by phesto

Thanks. For some reason I thought 2013 would show better than 2% overall growth. Glad to see we're finally back above 2008 numbers though.

Yup and look at the Asia Pacific explosion in December. Expected but surprised that didn't take off sooner.

2014 is shaping up to be pretty good so far as well.

[deasine]

Ground breaks on new luxury outlet mall near YVR

By Peter Meiszner Global News


Rendering of the proposed entrance to the outlet mall, inspired by iconic B.C. architecture.

Vancouver Airport Authority
Construction of a luxury outlet mall near the Vancouver International Airport has started.

The McArthurGlen Designer Outlet Vancouver Airport will occupy 30 acres next to the airport, and 376,000 square feet of retail space once development is complete. The site will be developed in two phases and is close to the Canada Line Templeton station.

“McArthurGlen Designer Outlet Vancouver Airport will offer a highly distinctive, luxury-oriented retail destination in Vancouver,” says Joan Jove, McArthurGlen’s Development Director for North America. “We are already seeing strong interest from leading European and North American fashion brands. Vancouver offers an excellent location, economic strength, tourism potential, as well as a strong partner in the Vancouver Airport Authority – all elements that guarantee success when opening a premium retail centre.”

In Europe, McArthurGlen outlets are known for retailers such as Prada, Armani, Burberry and Michael Kors.

The outlet mall will feature two “luxury piazzas,” according to the developer. There will be pedestrian-friendly walkways, tree-lined streets and the architecture will be inspired by historic Vancouver buildings including the Sinclair Centre, the Rowing Club and the Gastown neighhourhood.

B.C. residents are some of the best customers of the Seattle Premium Outlets in Washington State.

The Richmond development is expected to create 1,000 jobs.

This is McArthurGlen’s first outlet mall in North America. It will open to shoppers in 2015.

From Global

[MalcolmTucker]

I hope there is a good reason the site design isn't flipped with the shops closer to the train station.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

I hope there is a good reason the site design isn't flipped with the shops closer to the train station.

yeah. that doesn't make sense. i hope they've got a good reason why the shops aren't closer to the station...less walking distance. this might discourage people from actually taking transit, and just driving there.

[deasine]

*I believe* there is an existing parking lot there already, and it would be easier (and cheaper) to build the mall on land that was not already developed. I did, however, make such comments to YVR during the planning stages to no avail...

[lightrail]

Originally Posted by deasine

From Global

This is terrible. Designed once again with the car in mind, no consideration for transit. Why put the a massive parking lot between the mall and the transit station? There isn't even a dedicated walking route - transit passengers have to find their way across a parking lot.

And when they leave the mall, they get to pay the $5 airport surcharge on the transit ticket - yet parking will be free.

This development is badly located and will not do anything to enhance the region at all - it's a step backwards - shame on the airport authority.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by lightrail

And when they leave the mall, they get to pay the $5 airport surcharge on the transit ticket - yet parking will be free.

Wasn't the Skytrain ride between airport and mall going to be free?

Like everyone else, I hate them placing it to the wrong corner, but I do like the architecture. Yes, it's a outlet mall, but looks more high-end than normally.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by lightrail

This is terrible. Designed once again with the car in mind, no consideration for transit. Why put the a massive parking lot between the mall and the transit station? There isn't even a dedicated walking route - transit passengers have to find their way across a parking lot.

Items 2 and 3 on the map say covered pedestrian walkway.

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In terms of development plans -
This configuration probably gives YVR more flexibility to up-zone the parking lot area closer to the station in future if desired
(without demolishing the existing space). The mall is only one storey - which wouldn't suit a site immediately next to the station.
It would be harder to place denser uses on the periphery of the site in future (if the parking lot were around back).

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Items 2 and 3 on the map say covered pedestrian walkway.

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In terms of development plans -
This configuration probably gives YVR more flexibility to up-zone the parking lot area closer to the station in future if desired
(without demolishing the existing space). The mall is only one storey - which wouldn't suit a site immediately next to the station.
It would be harder to place denser uses on the periphery of the site in future (if the parking lot were around back).

Makes some sense if you look at it from a future-proof perspective. Still too bad its such a far walk from the station.

New parking lot will be a great place to spot some planes on approach to the north runway though. Also too bad there doesn't seem to be any sort of observation deck or even elevated platform being considered. Build a 2 storey building with expansive views of YVR and i'd pay just to get in.

[officedweller]

There's supposed to be an adjacent office park too - but they haven't released details as far as I know.

[Zassk]

Originally Posted by teriyaki

Makes some sense if you look at it from a future-proof perspective. Still too bad its such a far walk from the station.

The site isn't that big. It's 200 meters from Templeton Station to the main mall entrance. That's less distance than walking from the Seabus to Starbucks inside Waterfront Station. It's also less distance than walking from Metrotown Station to Metrotower 2.

[spm2013]

Yeah someone mentioned in one of the threads about the outlet mall that there are plans to build additional mall space if needed where the current parking lot.

If you can't walk 200m buy a car I guess.

[spm2013]

Design elements are inspired by iconic Vancouver architecture, including the city’s first post-office building, c. 1937 (now part of the Sinclair Centre complex), the Vancouver Rowing Club, c.1911, and the distinctive brick facades associated with historic Gastown.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/flight-information/...d_Luxury_Designer_Outlet-4181656697.aspx

[giallo]

A 200m walk is easy, and if it's going to be covered then I can't really see what the problem is.