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Old Posted Dec 1, 2021, 6:47 PM
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Ottawa doesn't have any amusement park other than the Limoges water park.

What do you guys think if there was a year long Christmas village in the region? Kind of a Hallmark Christmas movie themed park. With the amount of Christmas movies filmed in the area, I think it could be a good opportunity to capitalize on.

Could be partially used as a movie set. Visitors could volunteer to be figurants. There could be a toy shop, a coffee shop, an antique store, a bakery, a decoration store ... all the corny stuff we see in those movies. I`m sure there would be a market for it. All these movies end the same way, they are very predictable, and people still keep watching them. So there is a demand for it.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2021, 7:10 PM
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If Ottawa were to have a unique theme park, a great candidate would be to build it around the Wild Kratts since they're based in the city. It would be "wildly" popular with kids all over North America The quarry south of the Rideau Carleton Casino would be a perfect place for it. Maybe incorporate some sort of sustainable zoo.
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If Ottawa were to have a unique theme park, a great candidate would be to build it around the Wild Kratts since they're based in the city. It would be "wildly" popular with kids all over North America The quarry south of the Rideau Carleton Casino would be a perfect place for it. Maybe incorporate some sort of sustainable zoo.
why not have both? Make it worth spending more than a weekend in Ottawa.
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What do you guys think if there was a year long Christmas village in the region? Kind of a Hallmark Christmas movie themed park. With the amount of Christmas movies filmed in the area, I think it could be a good opportunity to capitalize on.

Could be partially used as a movie set. Visitors could volunteer to be figurants. There could be a toy shop, a coffee shop, an antique store, a bakery, a decoration store ... all the corny stuff we see in those movies. I`m sure there would be a market for it. All these movies end the same way, they are very predictable, and people still keep watching them. So there is a demand for it.
Santa's Village is only 4 hours away, and Upper Canada Village is 1 hour away. I think this area is good for village attractions.
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Now that the arena in Lebreton may be alive again, I remember a few of us saying converting the current Canadian Tire Centre to an indoor waterpark / mall would be a good idea. Could use like 70% for the waterpark and the other 30% for retail. Would work well with Tanger creating a decent destination within inner Ottawa (aka not having to drive to Calypso and it could run year round since it'll be indoor.
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That would be a small waterpark.

But I do agree Ottawa needs more indoor attractions. There is lots to do when the weather is nice and when there is consistent snow/ice. But the 6 months in between, plus bad weather days, it is pretty much museums and shopping malls (maybe a tour of a government building).
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Meanwhile in Halifax (a metro 1/3 of Ottawa-Gatineau)...
Forget the loop/parking in the middle of the first project. Why aren't we seeing more quality mixed-use projects like this here? The second looks like something fitting for Toronto or Vancouver, would do wonders for King Edward, south Bank St, Bronson, Carling...





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Meanwhile in Halifax (a metro 1/3 of Ottawa-Gatineau)...
Forget the loop/parking in the middle of the first project. Why aren't we seeing more quality mixed-use projects like this here? The second looks like something fitting for Toronto or Vancouver, would do wonders for King Edward, south Bank St, Bronson, Carling...





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The rendering at the top looks very Toronto, almost identical to some Toronto developments. I had to double check it wasn't a Toronto design firm (it's not).
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Ottawa can become a great city without nagging other levels of government
The fact is that we’re in a mess because we spent money we don’t have on things that aren’t people-centred, don’t deliver lasting value, and aren’t creating the city we say we want to be.

Toon Dreessen, Ottawa Citizen
Published Sep 04, 2024 • Last updated 6 hours ago • 4 minute read


Ottawa Mayor Mark Sutcliffe has been sharing daily videos implying an unfairness toward Ottawa’s financial status, repeating variations on a theme: that the federal and provincial governments aren’t paying their fair share. Whatever you think of these “fiscal fairness” videos, it’s important to understand what is really behind our financial mess.

Ottawa, like other Canadian cities, may well need a new funding model: the ability to raise direct tax revenue to ensure it has the means and the ability to build transit, housing and other infrastructure without having to spend considerable energy and political capital begging for money.

But we know what we can do to make our city feel alive again, without having to nag other levels of government for more money.

Long before the pandemic made remote and hybrid work a reality, decades of poor planning and inadequate design policies made the downtown core unattractive, inaccessible and nowhere near as beautiful as it should be.

Regardless of where the money comes from, what we need is a concerted political investment in people-centred design. What does this mean?

After the 2022 convoy protest, we kept Wellington Street closed to motor vehicles for about a year. During that time, we missed a golden opportunity to animate this small slice of the public realm. We could have added benches, temporary proper public washrooms (not portapotties), food trucks (like you find on the Mall in Washington D.C.), family-friendly activities including games and exhibits during the day and adult-oriented activities in the evenings. We could have had pop-up shows and street festivals. None of this would have cost a fortune.

We didn’t even try.

We left this portion of the street in front of Parliament Hill deserted and unattractive. After a year, we declared it a failure and re-opened it to cars.

That is what needs to change. We need a willingness to build, to try new things without needing endless consultations; to test ideas and make places attractive and welcoming.

The ByWard Market already has a lot that’s attractive. What could make it better? There have been countless calls to action for fewer cars, more pedestrianized spaces, places to sit and relax, some accessible public washrooms, street art, food trucks and — hear me out — some actual food vendors. The city’s current plan is four years old, approved without funding and decidedly mediocre. If we make the place attractive for people, they’ll show up, week after week. The same could be said for Sparks Street or many other neighbourhoods across the city.

The National Capital Commission (NCC) recently gave us one fantastic example of design leadership with the River House, a very simple concept that works because it focuses of providing free public swimming in a gorgeous natural setting. The NCC has created simple pop-up cafés at popular spots across the city and is currently renovating the facilities at Westboro Beach. It has offered a “Summer Zone” on Queen Elizabeth Driveway, taking simple, inexpensive, steps to make a better city.

People-centred design doesn’t have to be grandiose or expensive. It just needs to focus on people’s needs.

Across the country, cities have grappled with similar issues. Other cities are increasing transit frequency and reliability and seeing ridership rebound. Places such as Montreal are pedestrianizing streets and seeing their economies boom.

Ottawa is home to many creative people: not just architects and other professionals, but regular people who have ideas on how to make their communities interesting, vibrant and welcoming. Their ideas could blossom and be heard, influencing our city in positive ways. How come almost none of those ideas ever get tried?

Partly because putting forward ideas is limited through a public procurement model that isn’t interested in creativity. And partly because new ideas get buried in endless consultations that go nowhere. We need to put people-centred design in the spotlight and hold elected officials responsible for the process to create the city we want to be.

If we don’t demand it, we won’t get it.

Maybe Ottawa does need more fiscal fairness from other levels of government, or an entirely new funding model. The fact is that we’re in a mess because we spent money we don’t have on things that aren’t people-centred, don’t deliver lasting value, and aren’t creating the city we say we want to be.

No amount of money can make up for the longstanding practice of putting entrenched political or bureaucratic interests ahead of people-centred design.

Ottawa needs to be fiscally responsible. It needs to be committed to excellence and dedicated to sustainable outcomes. We need to design our city right by putting people’s needs first, then building, and budgeting, accordingly.

It starts with us. The time is now.

Toon Dreessen is president of Architects DCA in Ottawa.

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Old Posted Sep 7, 2024, 3:55 PM
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This city has no vision because its people don't. It's just that simple. Mostly just 8-4 public servants and supporting contractors who want to cash a paycheque and go back to the burbs every night. Ottawa is irredeemable. And there's no point throwing good money after bad. Good to see the provincial and federal governments catching on. And once the next government cuts federal jobs and spending, growth pressures will be off Ottawa.
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This city has no vision because its people don't. It's just that simple. Mostly just 8-4 public servants and supporting contractors who want to cash a paycheque and go back to the burbs every night. Ottawa is irredeemable. And there's no point throwing good money after bad. Good to see the provincial and federal governments catching on. And once the next government cuts federal jobs and spending, growth pressures will be off Ottawa.
I wonder if it doesn't have to do with a very transient population with no roots in the area and family loyalties to somewhere else?

I mean other cities like Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver get people from other parts of Canada and of course from around the world.

But when you move to one of them it's generally with the idea to stay is it not? And people seem to take on the civic identity more quickly and strongly than people do in Ottawa. That also seems to be the case in cities like Calgary for example.
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I wonder if it doesn't have to do with a very transient population with no roots in the area and family loyalties to somewhere else?
Per the 2021 census, the share of the population that lived in a different part of Canada five years previously:

Vancouver 13.0%
Ottawa 10.1%
Edmonton 9.8%
Montreal 8.3%
Calgary 8.0%
Toronto 7.2%
Winnipeg 5.6%
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Per the 2021 census, the share of the population that lived in a different part of Canada five years previously:

Vancouver 13.0%
Ottawa 10.1%
Edmonton 9.8%
Montreal 8.3%
Calgary 8.0%
Toronto 7.2%
Winnipeg 5.6%
So... not much of an excuse?
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Does this exclude newcomers to Canada?

I will tell you that there has been a loss of local identity as a result of amalgamation thanks to Mike Harris. Everything controlled by Laurier Avenue is not all positive and the cost savings never materialized.
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I wonder if it doesn't have to do with a very transient population with no roots in the area and family loyalties to somewhere else?

I mean other cities like Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver get people from other parts of Canada and of course from around the world.

But when you move to one of them it's generally with the idea to stay is it not? And people seem to take on the civic identity more quickly and strongly than people do in Ottawa. That also seems to be the case in cities like Calgary for example.
I have heard the transient population argument before. And I think people are getting it wrong. A lot of the people who move here absolutely adopt the predominant Ottawa lifestyle, which is boring suburbanite. Even if they move here when they are young, as soon as they pair up, they become boring suburbanites.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with it. I just wish we'd stop subsidizing it so much. But that does seem to be catching up with the suburban dominated political class now.

To the question itself, if you can't beat 'em join 'em. They aren't going to change and they don't want to spend money. So don't. Spend whatever is necessary to service the important tourist traps.. no need to bother with the rest.
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So... not much of an excuse?
Hard to quantify, so I wouldn't draw hard conclusions.
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I have heard the transient population argument before. And I think people are getting it wrong. A lot of the people who move here absolutely adopt the predominant Ottawa lifestyle, which is boring suburbanite. Even if they move here when they are young, as soon as they pair up, they become boring suburbanites.
Yeah, it's been decades since immigrants came to North America and their "arrival" neighbourhoods were urban. It's been straight to the suburbs for most for a long long time.
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