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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 1:42 AM
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^I agree that 1400 ft. wouldn't complement the skyline in that location, as much as I adore 432 Park Ave.
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Ice is the perfect height for that location and would ruin the skyline at twice their height
Ruin? That's not a word I would use. I think that a 400m tower in that locale would totally compliment the skyline.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 4:24 AM
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Ruin? That's not a word I would use. I think that a 400m tower in that locale would totally compliment the skyline.
I don't see how. Ice is the tallest tower in Southcore and arguably the tallest tower in the skyline from the lake. Doubling the height would be like adding additional CN towers and the CN Tower only works because its on the periphery. Yeah, 280 or 290 metres but, 400 metres makes no sense at all here.

Take every single highrise in the GTA and dump that density into the core of Toronto's downtown skyline. Maybe then, you will have something that competes with Midtown Manhattan.
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FrankieF, you and LeftCoaster have been awfully quiet on the proposals front.
It's slowing down a bit for sure. Still a few big guys in the pipeline but nothing like a few years ago.
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I don't mean to alarm anyone, but I think the ground must have caved in at Brookfield Place, because this thing went down another 7 - 10 feet since my update last week! Moving at warp speed! I have a feeling they are at the bottom now, it is so freaking deep it's crazy!


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It's slowing down a bit for sure. Still a few big guys in the pipeline but nothing like a few years ago.
That's unfortunate, but while I'm not too upset about the paucity of brand new proposals, I wish we would hear more - and more frequently - about those multitudes of big boys tabled in the last few years.
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what we need is to start seeing tenants in the plethora of proposed office buildings and what not to get them built. plus some condo sales, which have been going well so far this year. Plenty of big projects have essentially been given the go in the last few months. YC, Wellesley on the Park, King Blue condos, etc.
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Those are good, but I'm more interested in One Yonge, Mirvish, 50 Bloor W., 80 Bloor W., 37 Yorkville, et al.
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^ I agree we need to see some hot 250m+ towers.
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Ruin? That's not a word I would use. I think that a 400m tower in that locale would totally compliment the skyline.
Toronto certainly needs a few buildings in the 400-600m range if the CN Tower is ever to be woven into the skyline. Presently it dwarfs the city and we've been trying to grow up to that tower ever since it went up.
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I don't see how. Ice is the tallest tower in Southcore and arguably the tallest tower in the skyline from the lake. Doubling the height would be like adding additional CN towers and the CN Tower only works because its on the periphery. Yeah, 280 or 290 metres but, 400 metres makes no sense at all here.

Take every single highrise in the GTA and dump that density into the core of Toronto's downtown skyline. Maybe then, you will have something that competes with Midtown Manhattan.
That's like telling Chicago they shouldn't have built Big John because they already had Sears. A tower in the 400m range in the Southcore area wouldn't compete with the CN Tower in a negative way. More, like Isaidso mentions, it will lift the skyline. It won't block sight lines of the CN Tower, and so that view won't be compromised.
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It would dwarf the entire cbd from the lake. Very few cities have their tallest building that close to the waterfront. I'd love to see 400 m someday, but preferably set back a bit farther from the water.
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That's like telling Chicago they shouldn't have built Big John because they already had Sears. A tower in the 400m range in the Southcore area wouldn't compete with the CN Tower in a negative way. More, like Isaidso mentions, it will lift the skyline. It won't block sight lines of the CN Tower, and so that view won't be compromised.
Isaidso is nuts when it comes to comprehending height. I also don't understand why anyone would want the CN tower to "blend in" with the rest of the skyline. Towers look odd when they do. It goes against the purposes for their existence.

My point had nothing to do with competing with CN. Ice is typical twin tower condo build on a tight budget. It makes no sense to me to want it to absolutely dominate everything in the downtown area. Aura is bad enough.
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It would dwarf the entire cbd from the lake. Very few cities have their tallest building that close to the waterfront. I'd love to see 400 m someday, but preferably set back a bit farther from the water.
Agreed. Away from the lake or possibly to the east of the CBD, to balance CN on the west. The problem is, there's presently nary a highrise to speak of east of the CBD.
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Isaidso is nuts when it comes to comprehending height. I also don't understand why anyone would want the CN tower to "blend in" with the rest of the skyline. Towers look odd when they do. It goes against the purposes for their existence.
Calgary is a great example of this. I keep hoping someone will demolish that red bucket so it doesn't look so ridiculous.
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Calgary is a great example of this. I keep hoping someone will demolish that red bucket so it doesn't look so ridiculous.
haha so do many of us! Apparently the tower was built to withstand a major expansion. The pod section could be up to 4 storeys tall, with the potential for a 90 meter spire on top. It would increase the height significantly. So there is potential for redevelopment.
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