Mobile Development Thread - Page 27

Alxx611 · #**521** Posted **Aug 24, 2007, 11:24 PM**

An awesome video on Mobile on CNBC:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??g=283c5090-8a25-41ad-b018-986aaa16af16&f=00&fg=email

bayourat 15 · #**522** Posted **Aug 24, 2007, 11:58 PM**

wow! I just got the cold chills! ...I wonder about the 10,000 new jobs that the mayor talks about! He looks like a jackass eating bires with that happy smile

I can t wait for more development. I just wish he would agree on puting a highrise condo(30stories) with retail on the old courthouse land.

"Damn the Torpedos!, Mobile is Full Speed Ahead!"(Bayourat15.2007)

SouthSky · #**523** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 12:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by bayourat 15

Hey Sky, U think they would have to expand the cruise terminal and the parking garage?

They would most certainly would have to, especially if another cruise company joins Carnival here...

BTW... great movie there, Alxx... the only part I disliked was the anchorwoman's "tiny town" quote. What the hell does she think Mobile is? A suburb of New Orleans?

bayourat 15 · #**524** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 2:13 AM**

Turn the convention center into a second terminal. It's just sitting there collecting dust!....

Then the biggest eyesore in the country is the civic center. I say redo it .and use it for conventions!......see Biloxi(Coast Coliseum)

Just a thought

BlessedMobile · #**525** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 3:10 AM**

Our turning basin is sufficient for ships with a draft no more than our maximum 45 feet. The second cruise ship would use the same terminal and need additional parking. They would work on an alternate schedule so the terminal is fine for passenger care; it's those cars that are sitting there for both ships that need the space. I would much rather see our waterfront with something attractive rather than a lousy concrete parking deck...I mean, it is a view no car should have. Cruise ships are fine if you are selling them food and liquor but they spend very little on that in the time they are here. After all, they drive in here for a 4pm departure and drive home when they return. I don't see what is so great about having their cars parked on our waterfront for four days. If we have to build them another garage then do it under the overpasses where the mardi gras RVs park.

bayourat 15 · #**526** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 3:42 AM**

ship channel is 52ft from the tunnel past SandIsland Lighthouse .Posted before in the paper Cargo Ships over 950 have a hard time, even with tug boats, turning. It has been said also that, the cruise ships won't let tugs touch them. If we get this bigger ship, it will be tighter than dick's hat band to turn around.

I also like the land under I-10.

bayourat 15 · #**527** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 3:47 AM**

Hey Blessed, any ideas what the mayor said about the future of mobile in the video? 29 big projects and 10,000 Mobile is looking at

Scottybo · #**528** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 6:18 AM**

Yeah, I wonder if the 10,000 includes the Motorsports Park, Thyssen Krupp (gotten good at spelling that now), and Airbus?

CottonCity251 · #**529** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 8:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by SouthSky

They would most certainly would have to, especially if another cruise company joins Carnival here...

BTW... great movie there, Alxx... the only part I disliked was the anchorwoman's "tiny town" quote. What the hell does she think Mobile is? A suburb of New Orleans?

Just think of it like this, everyone knows now, for those who already didn't, Mobile has its presence along the Gulf Coast. Everyone, who knows of Mobile, knows where it is.

BlessedMobile · #**530** Posted **Aug 25, 2007, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by bayourat 15

Hey Blessed, any ideas what the mayor said about the future of mobile in the video? 29 big projects and 10,000 Mobile is looking at

You know Bayou I really don't thnk Mayor Jones would tell anyone...much less CNBC, what he knows if the need was there to remain silent. He is a very reserved person and keeps secrets well. Even though I did respect Mike Dow "keeping secrets" was not in his nature. I believe there are a lot of projects that are possible because of TK but I know some of the land developers and they would not tell anyone at all for fear of losing the sale. If this "29" comes from the chamber then you can plug a big question mark behind the figure; they are notorious about overstating possibilities. I remember the chamber tried to keep the Hertz project under wraps but kept telling everyone of all the hundreds of jobs... a call center job is not exactly a career move and there are near no secondary jobs. I think the 10,000 is accurate as a five year projection considering all that is coming. I talked to the development manager for the Motorsports Park the other day and he said they are on target for a completion in early 2010. Oh yea, on another note, I think that in 20 years Mobile will be the largest city in the state...maybe sooner. Annex...Annex...plus general growth.

nimsjus · #**531** Posted **Aug 26, 2007, 12:29 PM**

Al.com has gotten bad about updating its business/real estate section so if some of you local guys read about something good let us know. Last weeks PR mentioned the sale of the Kress building that PKP was talking about.
It is a very odd building with four first floor entrances to Dauphin, Conti, Royal and St Emmanuel I believe. The entrances all run down long hallways to the center of the building which has made it an ackward space for developers to try to use, which is one of the reasons it has been a tough sell. If these small sprojects keep the infill comming it will only be a matter of time before another big downtown announcement comes.
The 70,000-square-foot former Kress store building at 115 Dauphin St. is under contract to be purchased by a local investor who wants to put his office there, according to Burton Clark of Cummings &Associates. The buyer plans to offer some of the space in the circa 1913 building for sale or long-term lease -- 20,000 square feet on Royal Street and 10,000 square feet on Dauphin Street, he said

bayourat 15 · #**532** Posted **Aug 26, 2007, 3:28 PM**

todays paper

Talk about a kick in the face!

Will share my thoughts later...............

CottonCity251 · #**533** Posted **Aug 26, 2007, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by bayourat 15

todays paper

Talk about a kick in the face!

Will share my thoughts later...............

I felt the same way. Anyway, here is something that may excite you'll, this is the other video of the two-part CNBC's Post-Katrina Success on Mobile, AL, I love how they pronouce the city's name so good.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=483708521&play=1

nimsjus · #**534** Posted **Aug 26, 2007, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by bayourat 15

todays paper

Talk about a kick in the face!

Will share my thoughts later...............

What was in today's paper?? I skimmed the news and sports, but they didnt update the other stuff.

NitekKetin · #**535** Posted **Aug 26, 2007, 9:34 PM**

^the rumor about getting a larger Carnival ship was false...

pkp · #**536** Posted **Aug 27, 2007, 2:22 PM**

Hell -
I went on that cruise last month. The cruise director even mentioned they are going to add ANOTHER ship in the near future due to the huge success of the Holiday (they have sold out every cruise thus far - 2-3 per week depending on the schedule). I don't think it is really a secret if the cruise staff is telling passengers about it. But I think what we will be seeing is an additional ship next year, not a replacement. I hope that it is a Princess ship - we need something a little more upscale.

Alxx611 · #**537** Posted **Aug 27, 2007, 10:13 PM**

I thought you'd be mad at the fact that the courthouse condos will not be built. It was printed very casually in a column in the Real Estate section Sunday that the condos will not be built, and that Nodine agreed with Sam Jones about building a park.

nimsjus · #**538** Posted **Aug 28, 2007, 12:11 AM**

Yeah they finally updated AL.com
Here was the downtown stuff from the article...
The old Mobile County Courthouse site on Government Street will be used for a park, according to Steve No dine , county commissioner. Last fall, he disagreed with Mobile Mayor Sam Jones' plans to put a Mardi Gras park on the 2.7 acres. Nodine preferred retail or condominium units. He said he decided to support the park plan in part because of the city's partnership and $33.5 million commitment to land the $3.7 billion ThyssenKrupp steel mill in Mobile County.

A local investor and schoolteacher, Victor Helmsing , purchased a 25,000-square- foot former wholesale florist building at St. Louis Street and Washington Avenue for $389,000, according to Mike Reid of REMAX Realty Centre commercial division, who worked for the sellers. The property has frontage on St. Louis, Washington, St. Michael and Dearborn streets. Helmsing plans to develop residential, retail and office condominiums, according to Grubb & Ellis/Peebles & Cameron , who represented the buyer.

Construction costs are estimated at $11.8 million on the 150-room Hampton Inn & Suites to be built at the corner of Royal and Conti streets downtown by the summer of 2008, according to court records.

SouthSky · #**539** Posted **Aug 28, 2007, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by nimsjus

A local investor and schoolteacher, Victor Helmsing , purchased a 25,000-square- foot former wholesale florist building at St. Louis Street and Washington Avenue for $389,000, according to Mike Reid of REMAX Realty Centre commercial division, who worked for the sellers. The property has frontage on St. Louis, Washington, St. Michael and Dearborn streets. Helmsing plans to develop residential, retail and office condominiums, according to Grubb & Ellis/Peebles & Cameron , who represented the buyer.

Good for Helmsing... he was my economics teacher at St. Paul's back in the day.

bayourat 15 · #**540** Posted **Aug 30, 2007, 3:51 AM**

........Ok...hmm..where can i start.. These are just my opinions Im sure a few of you will disagree ,but in the last few months and into the near future the outlook doesnt look good. I hope the public gets to see the future plans(string of pearls ,part 2) in the up coming weeks! to see whats in store for the Port City.

1) A new park at the courthouse site

a) What kind of mischief (B.S) is this? The Mayor gets his park because the city gave money for the steelmill? It's the COUNTY'S LAND i didnt think they could just hand over this prime property without a fight.(it just amazes me that Chastang got booted out of office when this took place)...And also why isn't the Mobile Press covering this news with a big WRITE UP ?

Here lately the mayor has been crying about the city is broke and needs new revenue fast! Ok Im not the smartest in the world ,but how can the city pay for another park? Wouldn't a Highrise condo with a small retail mall bring millions into the city and really amplify that portion of downtown?

Ok ,so we get this park , going to cost money to upkeep ,water bill, and most important a iron fence with a fully armed guard. If not, the bums and homeless will be the only people there not tourist. Sounds sickening but its true!

Since the condos on waterstreet is a no go, and the proposed 21story condo here on the old courthouse site is dust in the wind. Mobile's chances of another Skyscraper in the near future is about like the civic center getting a big time concert or South Alabama getting a football team...not geauxing to happen....

2) In todays Lagniappe magazine ,which is a must read, the head editor writes about this and make his point. ''why have another park? we can 't upgrade the ones we have already"

2b) Also in the magazine the new columnist (which looks like a middle schooler with a peach fuzz beard )that writes about the county is horrible. He is very anti-Mobile for annexation and future growth. And the news he reports is very old. I think he just looks on SKYCRAPERPAGE.COM

for his info.

2c) Don t go to AL.com forums under Mobile for good news on development .They hate the idea Mobile is booming

Thats about it for now...Don t be to hard with the reply to the post..I just want the best for Mobile's future!....

Tomorrow night ....LSU 41 AND the cowbells 0.....Geaux tigers

"DAMN the Torpedos!, Mobile's Full Speed Ahead!"(Bayourat15,2007).