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I declare that I'm not the hugest of royalists. But I got to say - I feel a little empty right now. To me she represented stability. Stability above all of the other asinine actions that happened in the world during her reign. Stability through wars and invasions. Exuding Calm, peace, and Grace. Somehow I thought she lived forever. God bless the queen
one of the few thoughtful comments on the CBC website.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...beth-1.6576102
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I understand why colonialism is associated to the British Crown, but Queen Elizabeth II was not involved in that. If anything, she is partly responsible allowing many Countries to move on from their colonialist past. She was the face of progress in certain respects.

The Crown and its questionable past needs to be kept seperate from the Queen as a person who served her duties as best she could.
Agreed..but the twitter guy didn't see it that way. Everything to him is a reminder of our colonial past etc.
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Technically I’ve sworn an oath the the Queen, so that’s a bit of a weird feeling. Seemed very permanent. Don’t really feel strongly about removal of the Monarchy anytime soon or anything surrounding this. It’s going to be a weird and probably insufferable week in the media for a lot of reasons.

Can’t say I blame Irish twitter for being celebratory though.
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When I said to my wife that "the Queen is dead", though, she thought I meant Silvia. So "The Queen" as a wording didn't point to London, unlike in a lot of the world.
Standard phrasing here would be “the Queen of England has passed”, and telling that to my gf, the typical reaction is that it’s sad but fully foreign news (same as mousquet and New Brisavoine, no exaggeration).
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Standard phrasing here would be “the Queen of England has passed”, and telling that to my gf, the typical reaction is that it’s sad but fully foreign news (same as mousquet and New Brisavoine, no exaggeration).
Interesting. Surely she's seen a $20 bill?
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Interesting that Elizabeth II will “lie in rest” for a day at St Giles in Edinburgh before being moved to London. Even in death, she continues to serve.
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And coins too, but I’m pretty sure (I could ask) most people assume British royalty is on our coinage for some legacy reason.
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Interesting that Elizabeth II will “lie in rest” for a day at St Giles in Edinburgh before being moved to London. Even in death, she continues to serve.
I wouldn't be surprised if - in addition to her clear affection for Balmoral - she was thinking of the fact dying in Scotland would necessitate potentially unifying activities like this lying in rest, like the train procession down the island from Scotland to London. It's a very different affair than an entirely English funeral would've been. Though, I suspect, Scots can and do differentiate their reciprocal affection for her as an individual from the monarchy.
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Standard phrasing here would be “the Queen of England has passed”, and telling that to my gf, the typical reaction is that it’s sad but fully foreign news (same as mousquet and New Brisavoine, no exaggeration).
In common speech in francophone Canada (in Quebec and outside of it) the Queen is almost always referred to as "la reine d'Angleterre".

That's also how she is typically referred to in the francophone media, with the possible exception of Radio-Canada which may have a stricter protocol guide as a federal organization.
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I wouldn't be surprised if - in addition to her clear affection for Balmoral - she was thinking of the fact dying in Scotland would necessitate potentially unifying activities like this lying in rest, like the train procession down the island from Scotland to London. It's a very different affair than an entirely English affair would've been. Though, I suspect, Scots can and do differentiate their reciprocal affection for her as an individual from the monarchy.
Nicola Sturgeon actually just made a very nice, non-political statement.

It's said that the Queen really liked Scotland and Balmoral may have even been her favourite place. It's not impossible the chose to go there when she sensed the end might be near.
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In common speech in francophone Canada (in Quebec and outside of it) the Queen is almost always referred to as "la reine d'Angleterre".

That's also how she is typically referred to in the francophone media, with the possible exception of Radio-Canada which may have a stricter protocol guide as a federal organization.
Le Devoir pointed out that Louis XIV was actually the longest serving monarch in Canada.

LES RÈGNES LES PLUS LONGS SUR LE CANADA
Louis XIV (1643-1715) 72 ans
Élizabeth II (1952-2022) 70 ans
Victoria (1837-1901) 63 ans
George III (1760-1820) 59 ans
Louis XV (1715-1760) 45 ans
Louis XIII (1610-1643) 33 ans
George V (1910-1936) 25 ans
George VI (1936-1952) 15 ans
George IV (1820-1830) 10 ans
Édouard VII (1901-1910) 9 ans
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Le Devoir pointed out that Louis XIV was actually the longest serving monarch in Canada.

LES RÈGNES LES PLUS LONGS SUR LE CANADA
Louis XIV (1643-1715) 72 ans
Élizabeth II (1952-2022) 70 ans
Victoria (1837-1901) 63 ans
George III (1760-1820) 59 ans
Louis XV (1715-1760) 45 ans
Louis XIII (1610-1643) 33 ans
George V (1910-1936) 25 ans
George VI (1936-1952) 15 ans
George IV (1820-1830) 10 ans
Édouard VII (1901-1910) 9 ans
Was that small colony of New France, really "Canada"?
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Was that small colony of New France, really "Canada"?
Yes, it was the original Canada.

I thought most people knew that.
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Was that small colony of New France, really "Canada"?
I would say yes. Louis XIV is technically the longest serving Canadian monarch.
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I would say yes. Louis XIV is technically the longest serving Canadian monarch.
First place in the history of the world to be called "Canada".

First human grouping in the history of humanity to be called "Canadiens".
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Agreed..but the twitter guy didn't see it that way. Everything to him is a reminder of our colonial past etc.
100% virtue signaling. Has he done anything other that tweet about it?
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The “small colony” of Canada was assuredly MORE on Louis XIV’s radar (it was his…) than the totally foreign and fully independent country of Modern Canada ever was on QEII’s.

Decisions regarding Canada in the latter half of the 1600s and in the early 1700s were taken by Louis XIV or people directly named by him and taking their orders from him / answering to him;

Decisions regarding Canada in the latter half of the 20th century and early 21st century were NEVER taken by Elizabeth II or anyone who had anything to do with her.
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Ah yes, the continual plaintive cry of the Quebecois: "But France liked us, they really liked us".
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Ah yes, the continual plaintive cry of the Quebecois: "But France liked us, they really liked us".
And didn’t trade them for Guadeloupe.
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